How to get fast transfer to NAS?

jonapap

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I just got a WD My Cloud. It is working great but I have one big disadvantage, the speed. My router is downstairs and my computer is upstairs almost right above it. Still, I let a backup ran for 24 hours and it was like at 30% so it would take 3 days to do a backup? I began searching online for improving my wifi speed. At first, I was wondering if it would be possible to use 2 or more wifi adapters. After, I came to something called Powerline. It looks great but it seems it is pretty much the same speed as wifi(I have 802.11 n adapter). So my question is, what is a cheap solution to get fast speed to my NAS?
 
Solution
Yes an av600 (or there is some new gigabit ones but I have not tried or know anyone who has tried them) will give you better speed then that.


Now what are you needs for the NAS box.

If you need all wired/wireless devices to connect to it semi-equally:
NAS box connected via Ethernet to router, PC via powerline to router.

If the PC is the primary machine accessing the NAS:
Connect PC and NAS to a gigabit Ethernet switch, then connect Ethernet switch to router via powerline adapter. This will give you full 1000mbps bandwidth from PC to NAS.


You mean connect the NAS directly to my computer, no router?
 
Well, if the NAS is directly attached to the router it's got wired speed, but the PC to router connection is still WiFi. If the limiting issue is WiFi (and it may not be), running a cable from the computer to the router, even if you have to move the computer temporarily to test it, might be a good option.

Wiring them directly together is possible but requires some cleverness with settings and a special cable. Wouldn't be my first choice.

Do you have any way of seeing how many GB / hour are being transferred? Maybe access the storage device from another machine, check used space, wait an hour, and do it again? If the rate comes out to the speed of your WiFi connection well, there you are. If it's one percent of the speed of your WiFi connection, there's a different problem. Does that make sense? I'm sort of feeling around for tests here.
 
Ok, I can try to test my wifi speed. I can't do it now because I am doing a backup on one of my others computer(that one is connected to Ethernet!). I was looking at PowerLine adapters and they seem to be a good option. Are there speed faster then traditional 802.11 n wifi?
 
Here is a randomly-chosen article on particular powerline extenders: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-powerline-networking-kit . Their fastest one tested at 60 Mbps. 802.11n frequently trashes that in real-world tests. Not to mention that .n is kinda old. If you're limited by your Wifi speed, you might upgrade to .ac.

Personally, my guess is that this is not the limiting factor. That's just too long to do a backup. But, as I wrote above, I want to eliminate one piece of the puzzle at a time. When there's just one left, we have an answer.

Oh - you're running a backup on a computer that does have Ethernet. Is that running any faster?
 
Well, the backup is running on a old xp computer with only a 200 GB backup but yes, it was faster, took about 7 hours. Also, I also ran backups with a externa hard drive connected to usb 2.0 and the first backup took usually all night. Compared to 3 days, that is not a lot. If it change something, 465 GB of my computer hard drive is used and I am backing up my documents + system image.
 
At the point your throw a wall or 2 in between you and the router then powerline is faster then wifi.

Lets assume you have a n300 connection (300mbps). Well that 300mbps is actually 150mbps router to pc, and 150mbps pc to router (so TX/RX). Now that 150mbps is an ideal lab perfect setup, so with perfect line of sight 10ft from router call it 100-120 mbps real world speed. Add in 2 walls and you are now down to 40-50 mbps. Now little b is for bits and big B is for Bytes. When you see the download box that is in big B 8b=1B. so 48mbps is only 6 mBps.

Now if you only have 150mbps then you can take all those values in half and get 20-30mbps or 2-3 mBps.

Powerline adapters come in different speeds, av200 will do around 50mbps, av500 will do 80-120 depending on which adapter, and av600 will do around 120-150.
Now this does depend on your home as older homes or ones using all 3 phases of the power grid will not work well. They also don't like electric motors or multiple florescent fixtures on the powerline.
 


I just tested and it looks like I have a connection of around 42 Mb to my NAS(wifi). So if I understand correctly, I should get higher speed if I pick av600 Powerline and my house wiring is new, right?
 
Yes an av600 (or there is some new gigabit ones but I have not tried or know anyone who has tried them) will give you better speed then that.


Now what are you needs for the NAS box.

If you need all wired/wireless devices to connect to it semi-equally:
NAS box connected via Ethernet to router, PC via powerline to router.

If the PC is the primary machine accessing the NAS:
Connect PC and NAS to a gigabit Ethernet switch, then connect Ethernet switch to router via powerline adapter. This will give you full 1000mbps bandwidth from PC to NAS.
 
Solution
Yes my PC is the primary machine accessing the NAS. After seeing that Ethernet is by far the best solution, I was thinking moving the router to that pc. But I wanted to know if there was another solution to access my NAS. But I would never thought to use a gigabit Ethernet switch. So with a switch, the data doesn't need to go all the way to the router and come back to the NAS?