Question How to maximize my CPU frequency ?

[green.masood]

hey guys
i have an i7-10700 paired with mb/;z490p and 16ddr4-2933 or 3000 bus.
i have an ssd 512 gb and 650 power supply
my cpu turbo should be at 4.8 but it gets to 4.6
my system is at good conditioin
any suggestions?

 

[Lutfij]

How are you cooling the processor? What is the make and model of your chassis and what sort of temps are you seeing on your processor when taxed?

Is this the motehrboard

PRIME Z490-P - Support

www.asus.com

you're currently working with? If so, what BIOS version are you on?

 

[Eximo]

Once you confirm the CPU is properly cooled it is actually quite hard to get the max clock speed on a locked chip. It is rare for the system to be doing something on only a single core. And the instant you start monitoring it, you are pretty much using multiple cores. Soon as two cores are active it will drop down to 4.7Ghz and more cores will drop it down to 4.6Ghz.

When I tried it with a 10900, MCE didn't have an effect. So no getting all cores to 4.8Ghz.

You can relax the power limits and TAU which will let the CPU stay boosted longer, but there isn't much you can do with the boost profile.

About the only thing you can do is a little BCLK overclocking, maybe try 102-103Mhz. which will get you to around 4.7Ghz instead of 4.6Ghz under normal operating conditions.

 

[green.masood]

Once you confirm the CPU is properly cooled it is actually quite hard to get the max clock speed on a locked chip. It is rare for the system to be doing something on only a single core. And the instant you start monitoring it, you are pretty much using multiple cores. Soon as two cores are active it will drop down to 4.7Ghz and more cores will drop it down to 4.6Ghz.

When I tried it with a 10900, MCE didn't have an effect. So no getting all cores to 4.8Ghz.

You can relax the power limits and TAU which will let the CPU stay boosted longer, but there isn't much you can do with the boost profile.

About the only thing you can do is a little BCLK overclocking, maybe try 102-103Mhz. which will get you to around 4.7Ghz instead of 4.6Ghz under normal operating conditions.

thnx for your soloution.
so you say all cores on 4.6 ghz is ok totally? no worry? it,s at good performance?
no significant percentage in performance is between 4.6 and 4.8?
and if i want 4.7 i can go to bios and change bclk
from 99.8 to 1.02

 

[Eximo]

I wouldn't worry about it. Consider keeping an eye out for a used 11700k if you want more clock speed/performance without a major overhaul.

BCLK overclocking can lead to system instability quite quickly. Basically forcing the whole system to run a little faster instead of just the CPU.

 

[punkncat]

Unless you stumbled across something crazy inexpensive, I would not recommend going with an 11th gen CPU for that motherboard. One of the biggest detractors is it doesn't support PCIe 4.0. Doing so would require an aftermarket cooler and a BIOS update for support. NOS 11th gen pricing is creeping upward, and anything used could well have been abused on a bit with the old user attempting to clock it like the i9 variant @5+GHz. The i7 and "i9" for the 11th gen are practically the same chips with the better performers binned as an i9.

Nothing at all wrong with the system spec on hand.

 

[green.masood]

thanx for your comments guyz.

Unless you stumbled across something crazy inexpensive, I would not recommend going with an 11th gen CPU for that motherboard. One of the biggest detractors is it doesn't support PCIe 4.0. Doing so would require an aftermarket cooler and a BIOS update for support. NOS 11th gen pricing is creeping upward, and anything used could well have been abused on a bit with the old user attempting to clock it like the i9 variant @5+GHz. The i7 and "i9" for the 11th gen are practically the same chips with the better performers binned as an i9.

Nothing at all wrong with the system spec on hand.

 

[Eximo]

Nothing wrong with PCIe 3.0 with an RTX3070. Not really worth worrying about until you hit the big monsters like the 4090/7900XT/XTX. I ran a 3080Ti for years on PCIe 3.0. My scores were only slightly below the average (I also didn't/don't bother overclocking that card, despite the water cooling)

11700k even at stock is some 15% faster in single thread, but you would gain the ability to overclock which could be worth another 10% with the right cooling. It would have to be a pretty good deal though, say sub $100 to make it worth doing. But the 11700K and 11900k (not worth it) still command a high price. Just something to monitor.

Cheap 12700k combos have been popping up a lot lately, but if you are going to the effort of changing motherboards and potentially ram you might as well wait on 15th gen or move on over to Ryzen 7000.

 

[green.masood]

Nothing wrong with PCIe 3.0 with an RTX3070. Not really worth worrying about until you hit the big monsters like the 4090/7900XT/XTX. I ran a 3080Ti for years on PCIe 3.0. My scores were only slightly below the average (I also didn't/don't bother overclocking that card, despite the water cooling)

11700k even at stock is some 15% faster in single thread, but you would gain the ability to overclock which could be worth another 10% with the right cooling. It would have to be a pretty good deal though, say sub $100 to make it worth doing. But the 11700K and 11900k (not worth it) still command a high price. Just something to monitor.

Cheap 12700k combos have been popping up a lot lately, but if you are going to the effort of changing motherboards and potentially ram you might as well wait on 15th gen or move on over to Ryzen 7000.

i see that you have 12700k and it,s wonderful but i,m satisfied with my 10700.
it,s powerful enough for me and all cores at 4.6 is goof though.
im buying a rtx 3060 12g palit brand dual oc in used condition but at good price(175$)
it,s pcie 4 and my mobo (z490p) is pcie 3 but as you mentioned in 3080ti and pcie3 that you have hadTit no problem and no difference in performance. right?
at all im ok with my current config
some month ago i sold out my 3070 but didnt edit my signature below my posts 😀

 

[Eximo]

i see that you have 12700k and it,s wonderful but i,m satisfied with my 10700.
it,s powerful enough for me and all cores at 4.6 is goof though.
im buying a rtx 3060 12g palit brand dual oc in used condition but at good price(175$)
it,s pcie 4 and my mobo (z490p) is pcie 3 but as you mentioned in 3080ti and pcie3 that you have hadTit no problem and no difference in performance. right?
at all im ok with my current config
some month ago i sold out my 3070 but didnt edit my signature below my posts 😀

They had the 12700KF at $200 a few months ago, it was hard to pass up since I have an Intel CPU block. And I figure I will pick up a 14700K at some point near the end of its lifecycle.

This is an older article, before Intel even offered PCIe 4.0, but you can see that even cutting PCIe 3.0 bandwidth in half doesn't do much with an RTX3080.

PCIe 4.0 vs. PCIe 3.0 GPU Benchmark

With the launch of the new GeForce 30 series, PCI Express 4.0 performance has come up into the discussion. To find out exactly what we're talking about,...

www.techspot.com

 

[green.masood]

They had the 12700KF at $200 a few months ago, it was hard to pass up since I have an Intel CPU block. And I figure I will pick up a 14700K at some point near the end of its lifecycle.

This is an older article, before Intel even offered PCIe 4.0, but you can see that even cutting PCIe 3.0 bandwidth in half doesn't do much with an RTX3080.

PCIe 4.0 vs. PCIe 3.0 GPU Benchmark

With the launch of the new GeForce 30 series, PCI Express 4.0 performance has come up into the discussion. To find out exactly what we're talking about,...

www.techspot.com

Bro what da ya think about palit rtx 3060 dual oc paired with my build?
In pcie3 is it ok?

 

[punkncat]

My mention of PCIe 4.0 wasn't to imply that it is some life changing upgrade/update, but rather to infer that between 10th gen and 11th gen it was just about the only aspect worth significant consideration. Mostly in regard to storage rather than graphics throughput. Even AT that, unless you are moving a lot of data around (for various reasons) the only way you would see an advantage is if ALL of the drives being targeted for that speed are PCIe 4.0. The slowest drive you move data to and from is the limiter here.

Most benchmark videos have shown very little improvement on the GPU side of that standard as of yet.

IMO 11th gen was somewhat the (unloved) child in a long line of refreshes where they tweaked voltage and frequency about as high as the chips could manage. There is almost nothing for OC overhead and all of the K skew need above average cooling. It isn't to say they couldn't perform well, and there is some discussion about latency after 11th gen being quite high, but these CPU were rushed out the door in a (poor) attempt at having something to staunch the flow of consumers to AMD and was very poorly received.

Just the same, as @Eximo mentions above, you can find some really attractive pricing on the back end of life cycle. There is a significant leap in value to performance when you catch stuff at the point that it is old and bargain priced, right before pricing starts to crawl back up due to being NOS. 11th gen is already past that point. 12th gen has been priced this way to a degree as well.