How Will AMD stay alive?

[Dekasav]

Games are the most demanding thing my computer runs, so I don't mind 😉

 

[randomizer]

Whereas as I do some work with mental ray and rendering for more than 5 seconds bothers me (and 5 seconds is impossible even for a simple scene, especially once you throw in supersampling and global illumination). The more CPU power I can throw at it the better.

 

[spud]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/1159434782588.jpg

LMAO.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Yes, most of us know Jen-Hsun, but why are the mods bowing to his greatness - did he threaten them with a can o' whoopass again? Or perhaps the upcoming G300?

The glorious One has promised Fermi to the world, and in such a believable manner too!, I wonder if he sang the opening line "Fermi, is gonna be the fasted GPU in the west" to the tune of Ernie.

 

[jennyh]

LOL - you think AMD does no harm??

No I don't think AMD does no harm, being a large company means you will be harming the environment by default.

However, if you actually believe AMD are doing more harm than intel at 10x the size, then you are even more deluded than you make yourself out to be.

BTW, your link didn't say anything about Intel's "global warming", in case yet another factoid managed to sneak past your attention deficit span 😀

Most of us with the ability to link stuff together can figure out that environmental issues and 'global warming' are pretty closely linked. Still if you really want to know how much CO2 they pumped into the atmosphere then I'm *sure* I can dig that up quite easily. You get AMD's and we'll compare ye?

Actually you forgot about the "L2N" {sic: LN2 presumably}. LN2 cooling is grossly inefficient and a huge energy waster - and you talk about "global warming"??

Did you miss the part that you rewrote when I said 'something similar'? It doesn't have to be *exactly* LN2, but 'something similar'. You know, something that has a similar effect? God failzers you are a seriously one-dimensional person.

I suppose your average butt-scratching bush pygmy might still find microwave ovens to be awesome "magic", but we all truly hope you have been domesticated, or at least housebroken, for a while now 😀

Blah blah blah. You completely miss the point every single time don't you. The point was and remains - you do not know what is around the corner - you do not know which techs are going to be advanced in the next couple of years, or even tomorrow. You especially do not know because you are closed minded.

The point was, the Phenom II was a much more capable chip on maximum clock speed, and if cooling was available it would be a better chip. There are technologies being developed all the time, like thermal pillar bumps. A new method of heat dissipation could be released tomorrow and suddenly everybody with Phenom II's could have cpu's running above 6ghz. You get the point? How simplistic do I have to make it so you understand?

LOL - really, jenny - there's just no defending this one . Really! You truly want a Barcelona stuck inside your noggin?? Sheesh!! Even I, loyal fanbois that I am 😀, wouldn't want an i7 in my eye. Or a P2 in my - well, you get the idea 😀

Failzers, these technologies already exist. Brain-computer interfaces allow people to control stuff on screen using thought alone. Instead of going through AMD's financials on a daily basis, you really should read more tech news and you might know this stuff.

Don't quite follow that one - you mean Intel will say ARM engineers are stupid, once ARM starts taking marketshare? That wouldn't make sense. And marketshare in what?? Netbooks? You might notice it's a bit of a challenge to dislodge x86 given the huge amount of sofware written for that market...

Netbooks, smartphones, you name it these two are gonna be competing in it. And yes, as soon as ARM are a real threat, intel will start with the same tired old propaganda that they use vs AMD.

First of all, the "disease" quote was in response to your earlier denial that you ever said such a ridiculous thing 😛. Anyway, please explain how Intel customers giving Intel $$ for product, is money going to the (presumably) wrong place to prevent disease. What about AMD customers, what few there are? Shouldn't they also be giving up their dimes & nickels (or whatever AMD can charge for its CPUs), to help cure disease instead of buying global-warming space heaters and then cooling them with LN2??

And I guess by contrast, you figure AMD is the company that will care for you & your family's health? Please note the pollution link at the top of this post 😀.

The point is, intel is run by corrupt people, and nobody wants these people in control of future medical tech.

Next up, the "biochip" link - what does this have to do with anything? If you had actually read your link, you might have discovered that these are merely biological assay chips that are able to test in parallel for a large variety of characteristics. Not the same as the implantable chips you mentioned earlier. And yes there probably is a good-sized market for them, but not on the same scale as microprocessors. You think in the future we'll all have biochips stuck everywhere? Doing what, pray tell? And I doubt they'll be making much more cash that CPUs - where was that in your Wiki link? Besides, AMD doesn't make biochips either, do they?

It was ONE EXAMPLE of the merging of tech and biology, I could reel of a lot more if required. Both industries are converging on the same point because of their very nature. It is the technology of the unseen world, and it is the future of humanity at stake.

Finally, my imaginatiion is just fine, tyvm. However, as an engineer who runs a small department of some 17 other engineers, generating on average about $7M per year in income, I also tend to be pragmatic, a quality which you rarely demonstrate in your posts by the way. You also tend to get all emo and giddy, with alarm bells going off every other post! 😀.

What happened, not good enough for AMD? Maybe if you spent more time being better at your job you would have got that position? Maybe if you weren't so close minded and anal you'd have got it? Who knows, but I think we all know why you have such an irrational hatred of AMD now. Get over it.

 

[Reynod]

She still shuns me ... <sigh>

 

[randomizer]

There, there. You just need to try harder.

 

[Reynod]

As a model I am used to having all of the girls chase me ...

I'll pop down to the dungeon and ask wingy for some advice ... a fellow professional n all.

 

[randomizer]

I think she's too busy chasing fazers at the moment 😀

 

[Reynod]

Yeah ... I think your right.

The pretty ones always go for the geeks with the mean streak.

We are just too nice random ...

 

[Upendra09]

Random is obssessed with the guy in his sig and cats, no girls for him

 

[Upendra09]

Reynod get rid of ur angel avatar then ppl will start noticing u

 

[uncfan_2563]

well bottom line is this, you cant justify a Phenom II x4 955 based system over a Core i7 860 with less than a 100 dollar difference. I'd say AMD is in trouble, i wish they'd set things straight

 

[intelx]

intel will show no mercy!!!! they will win maybe not sometime soon, but im confident in their work as they will produce a great gpu(larrabee) just wait and see.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

LRB will no doubt further Intels good work, but thats mainly gpgpu usage, as a gfx card, theres alot of doubt as to whether itll perform as well.
My problem with LRB and pc gaming is, will it have to have the entire gfx industry move to its style of rendering for it to be a worthy competitor or not?
If thats the case, any 1 of the other 2 existing companies could also do the same, and clearly benefit hugely by having specific code done for their HW.
Since I believe the devs wont alter the pc gaming course were currently in, which is somewhat directed by M$ and the DX models we use in our games, and the rendering choices we all are familiar with, then LRB is going to have to compete outright, just like the other 2, and may not find it so easy in that arena.
For gpgpu usage, again, it looks to be a clear winner, even having an easier path than the G300, even tho its not truly as "fast", but due to its arch, and its caching etc, should enable it to do extremely well in HPC etc

 

[randomizer]

well bottom line is this, you cant justify a Phenom II x4 955 based system over a Core i7 860 with less than a 100 dollar difference. I'd say AMD is in trouble, i wish they'd set things straight

Yes you can, if you don't need the extra CPU power.

 

[amdfangirl]

It's the same way I can justify buying a Sempron single-core over an Athlon dual-core with the difference being $30.

 

[EXT64]

They seem to do ok in the lower end markets. Not everyone needs a 500W $1500 behemoth while surfing the web and typing in word. Though they need to get some presence in the high end, otherwise their image may be irrecoverably tarnished. At least ATI will keep them alive :lol:

 

[uncfan_2563]

yeah ati will keep them alive. I'm kinda picturing this as a husband that's a hobo who wastes all his money on drugs that's being kept afloat by their wife. (huge exaggeration of course). The husband being AMD's cpus and the wife being ATI. AMD's main money maker is the "husband" but the "wife" is wearing the pants right now.

now how's that for a metaphor.

 

[randomizer]

This thread has well and truly run its course now.