HP Explains Why It Is Selling Windows 7 Again

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Here in New Zealand you see many laptops in stores with Windows 7 pre-installed, with an option to for Win 8 if you want it. This is nothing new. If they didn't sell, they wouldn't do it. It's that simple. Clearly many customers have been asking "can I get it with Windows 7?".
 
I guess that point is, learning-curve with Windows 8 and the "Start button" aside, is Windows 8 missing something that Windows 7 has?For desktop computing, Windows 7 provides a more familiar interface. Windows 8 is more for laptop/hybrids (suddenly there are so many choices). Only if MS didn't confuse the issue further with Windows RT. Microsoft's next move to combine Windows RT and Windows Phone OS seems to be a logical one, putting it more in line with the AndroidOS and iOS. Indeed there are so many choices.My choice is Windows8 for my desktop and laptops (has been the case since its launch) though it hasn't been smooth but I can't honestly say any of the previous versions of Windows were smooth starting from Windows3... remember the days you'd need a different bootup disk for different software? We have Mac OSX (Maverick), it is good but doesn't suit my need (not that it is as problem-free as everyone thinks). The iPads are passed down to the kids and I like using my Surface RT (but it has been at the MS service centre since Christmas). I have the first Nexus7, bought it pre-launch, very temperamental and buggy, not sure why everyone likes it so much....
 
I think this is a smart move by HP personally I have mixed feelings about Windows 8. The only thing I really don't like about Windows 8 is metro plane and simple. Its been said a million times Metro is just clunky on a non touch screen device. Given replacing metro is pretty simple there are a bunch of programs out there. I still feel kinda cheated that I have to use a 3rd party program to fix a software limitations that was purposefully introduced. If I was a normal non tech savvy consumer chances are I wouldn't know there are 3rd party applications out there to bring back my start button. Chances are if I did some of them can be little overwhelming to setup.
 
Nobody wants Windows 8. It is not a secret anymore. MS can't get to windows 9 fast enough now.
 
I won't use Windows 8, 8.1, or any PC OS designed with a focus on touching a large-size computer screen (or requiring keyboard shortcuts to avoid touching the screen).In a desktop environment, I'm supposed to reach out and touch my large screen? That's absurd. Even if large monitors were touch-sensitive, I wouldn't want to grubby my screen, nor end up with the equivalent of carpal tunnel syndrome to my whole arm, from having to repeatedly raise and extend that arm. And I shouldn't have to use work-arounds to avoid that.Nor will I use any OS that tries to make me go to or through their ap store for added functionality.And while it was long-ago revealed that Windows likely had backdoors, most of us didn't really pay much attention. No more. For the future, I won't buy any OS that compromises my privacy via backdoors or other insecurities.Those things are all non-negotiable.
 
I would get Windows 8.1. In my opinion, it didn't, "clean up the place a bit" but rather solved some of the most glaring usability annoyances, thus making Win 8.1 suitable as a daily driver. I use it on two machines here at the house, neither with touchscreens, but I do still have 7 on the spare tower (mostly due to AMD dropping driver support for <= HD 4xxx cards in 8.1) and on my laptop.

8.1 has a much better thread scheduler and task manager and a much-updated file explorer and copy dialog. The right-click menu on the Windows button is handy. Is 'the interface formerly known as Metro' annoying? Hell yes, but, I never have to see it with all the options introduced in 8.1 enabled. I'm still excited to see them return more to the desktop paradigm in 8.2 or 9, including the ability to run Modern UI apps windowed and running more than 2 per monitor, but there's nothing that bad about 8.1. People will whine about anything.
 
I bought three desktops(for my family members) last year and all of them came with Windows 8. As soon as the desktop is set up I replaced Windows 8 with Windows 7 and every one loves it!
 
What's really interesting is that I know someone that bought a PC with Win8 on it a couple of weeks ago. He only figured out today that it was a touchscreen, and that happened to be while running Linux. Win8 touch optimized? Apparently not!
 
I do not like windows 8 I rather use my home PC with windows 7. Windows 8 is gimmicky and more of a hassle to use. If you work on your PC window 8 and the extra layers just slow you down!
 
What's really interesting is that I know someone that bought a PC with Win8 on it a couple of weeks ago. He only figured out today that it was a touchscreen, and that happened to be while running Linux. Win8 touch optimized? Apparently not!
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So let me get this right. You are presenting the experience of someone who was so clueless about something they had bought that they did not realize they had bought a touchscreen monitor until weeks after the fact. What a lame rhetorical move....The fact that you would be so clueless to present such an absurd idea as proof of anything makes me think your circle of acquaintances are idiots, inclusive to yourself of course.
 
First moan is if you want to replace XP or Vista (remember those $40 liscenses?). Not all hardware or software plays with W8.
Second moan is you need a Microsoft Account and are required to download many programs from the Microsoft Store.
Third moan, is, if there are problems or difficulties W7, is easy to troubleshoot, and find and identify what things are. Aps? Tiles? Not optimized for mouse and keyboard?
Fourth is that stupid hidden control bar, which does not function well with some old hardware. And can be annoying when the mouse loses it on any hardware.
Fifth the jump from W8 to w8.1 can mess with settings, programs, and defaults.
Sixth, Microsoft seems more interested in "look what we have" than simple usability, a year and a half after introduction, finding solutions can be frustrating, and sometimes impossible.
Seventh is ending W7.
 
My main problem with Windows 8 is the changes to the drivers, much of my hardware will not work with Windows 8. I can ignore Metro by using a third party software such as classic shell, although I do miss the Aero look. Windows 8.1 is more problematic as there are many pointless small changes that do nothing but annoy. The performance of Windows 8 is good and there are many neat features, but on balance I think that I will stick with Windows 7.
 
"it wouldn't be surprising to see other OEMs like Dell and Acer give in to "consumer demand" and launch a number of Windows 7 products."Uh, FYI, almost a year ago Dell quietly restored Windows 7 as an option for most of their consumer models because sales of their Windows 8 consumer PCs had dropped off a cliff. Dell, like HP and Lenovo, NEVER offered anything BUT Windows 7 by default on their biz class systems.
 
Simple explanation: HP sales slumped, Lenovo is thriving. Main difference is that Lenovo still offers Win 7 (from HP's POV). They think they can do better like Lenovo by offering Windows 7 again..and it'll probably help to some extent.
 
reminds me of a lot like vista, when computer companies gave people an option to have xp installed instead. never the less microsoft wins either way again. Rather it's Windows 8 or Windows 7 that oems are choosing Microsoft is making money off of both.
 
Microsoft needs to take a step back and watch Ace Ventura: Pet Detective before they try to make another OS. "Laces OUT!!!"And the moral of this story is, use a little common sense when trying to be "innovative".
 
most of these complaints are outright bs. not to mention that win8 is an improved win7 with a leaner set of system requirements and plays better with lower end machines. if you don't like th start screemn you can bypass it. need the start menu? then you are a novice user. microsoft did a really bad job of explaining win8. i've taken tons of trainings and none of those tranings direct people to Win+d for desktop. and all the rest of the shortcuts that are available for use.... most of which have been there since vista... what i am really saying is there is really no reason, other that lazieness, to not use win8. people just want to stick with old way. i can accept that.
 


So does DELL. They offer a choice of Windows 7 (pre, pro) or 8 (8.1). Dells choice of desktops with 8 is a bit higher because they have some with touch screens. Also every PC parts store I have seen still sell Windows 7 and offer just about as many if not more machines with Win 7. Link is for reference of what I am about to write. This very popular store sells well over twice as many Win 7 Desktops as Win 8...

www.microcenter.com/category/4294967292/Desktop-Computers

Just saying. But yea its still about choice.
 
Because W8 is ugly. Who cares how simple it may or may not be for certain people (which is completely subjective), why does it matter? If someone wants W7 and you want W8, I don't see the problem. It is like we are being conditioned to think that we always should just be spoon-fed whatever new product is being shoved in our mouths and not say boo. Who really cares what other people use? Don't you have your own life to be concerned with?
 
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