News Huawei Reportedly Ventures Into The Server GPU Market

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So after their communications network fiasco; who's going to install these on their servers and risk further security leaks from pre-installed "back doors"?
 
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So after their communications network fiasco; who's going to install these on their servers and risk further security leaks from pre-installed "back doors"?
Remember this whole 'fiasco' is orchestrated by the US because they see Huawei as a competitive threat and the trade war didn't help make things rosier. The US has yet to conjure up an atom of evidence to implicate Huawei. Heck even reputable 3rd party security vetting companies in the US said they found no evidence of Huawei implemented any form of 'backdoor' in their 4G/5G equipment. The US government is just doing what they does best when they're red with envy by dragging oppositions through the mud to destroy their reputation in the hope of stigmatizing them.
 
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The US has yet to conjure up an atom of evidence to implicate Huawei
The use of the word conjure has Admiral Motti vibes.

Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Trump. Your sad devotion to that ancient trolling religion has not helped you conjure up incriminating evidence, or given you clairvoyance enough to find Huawei's hidden factory.
 

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For those wondering what I am speaking of:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/germany-has-evidence-huawei-worked-with-chinese-intelligence

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/17/18264283/huawei-security-threat-experts-china-spying-5g

https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/13/the-u-s-is-charging-huawei-with-racketeering/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/02/26/huawei-security-scandal-everything-you-need-to-know/#2a563cd373a5

If you really want to put their gear in your network, behind firewalls, made by a company with heavy Chinese government investment and influence, a government that makes monitoring of its citizens a routine practice, be my guest. Just be informed about it upfront.
 
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For those wondering what I am speaking of:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/germany-has-evidence-huawei-worked-with-chinese-intelligence

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/17/18264283/huawei-security-threat-experts-china-spying-5g

https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/13/the-u-s-is-charging-huawei-with-racketeering/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2019/02/26/huawei-security-scandal-everything-you-need-to-know/#2a563cd373a5

If you really want to put their gear in your network, behind firewalls, made by a company with heavy Chinese government investment and influence, a government that makes monitoring of its citizens a routine practice, be my guest. Just be informed about it upfront.
Oh right, how enlightening that you should cite articles from US publishers quoting 'US officials/intelligence' sources. They must be unquestionably correct then given how much we could trust our government and the NSA.
Funny you mentioned, given how our government makes monitoring its citizens a routine practice in the US(shhh~! You're not supposed to know this...), should the world be worried about buying phones with a Qualcomm chip or Apple chip in it??
 

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Remember this whole 'fiasco' is orchestrated by the US because they see Huawei as a competitive threat and the trade war didn't help make things rosier. The US has yet to conjure up an atom of evidence to implicate Huawei. Heck even reputable 3rd party security vetting companies in the US said they found no evidence of Huawei implemented any form of 'backdoor' in their 4G/5G equipment. The US government is just doing what they does best when they're red with envy by dragging oppositions through the mud to destroy their reputation in the hope of stigmatizing them.
They see them as a security threat, not a competitive threat.

Go collect your check from Chinese Gov't and Huawei - you tried.
 

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So after their communications network fiasco; who's going to install these on their servers and risk further security leaks from pre-installed "back doors"?
Do you still believe that US created nonsense conspiracy which has been proven to be utter lies by every nation in the world?

The better question is - Why do you trust US-based companies that have been openly proven to provide the NSA with backdoors into systems containing Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and Cisco hardware? There have even been NSA documents released stating that they have used this to access foreign governments' infrastructure, like Germany, the UK, China, South Korea, Japan, and Russia... Why do you think China and Russia have put much effort into removing US chips from its network?
 

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They see them as a security threat, not a competitive threat.

Go collect your check from Chinese Gov't and Huawei - you tried.
Are you that tone-deaf to realize US's perceived security threat from China was borne from China's increasing competitiveness as a whole? Huawei being the leader of this push for technological and commercial advancement is what worries the US and they use 'security threat' as a convenient excuse to single out Huawei in order to suppress and limit their development. Of course, any Trump supporter would sheepishly swallow anything the administration ram down their throat.
Every major tech company in the world are guilty at one point or another when it comes to privacy concerns, but using IPs, trade and anti-competitive policies to bully others into submission is downright dirty.
 

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The better question is - Why do you trust US-based companies ...
Let's just say I don't trust either, but I have greater fear of what China could do with that access & capability.

In my ideal world, telecomms infrastructure would be required to be fully open source, or at least keep the source code in escrow. The issue of trust can effectively be removed from the equation, no matter who's the provider.
 

bit_user

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Are you that tone-deaf to realize US's perceived security threat from China was borne from China's increasing competitiveness as a whole? Huawei being the leader of this push for technological and commercial advancement is what worries the US and they use 'security threat' as a convenient excuse to single out Huawei in order to suppress and limit their development.
Sadly, Trump has muddied the waters by intermingling security concerns with competitiveness. That doesn't nullify the aforementioned security concerns, which have been around since before Trump came onto the scene and started throwing everything at China that he could find.

Worse, I don't trust Trump not to sacrifice security, in order to reach a deal that helps his image. Ultimately, he only cares about one thing, and it's sure not national security.
 

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People need to remember that VIA has worked with the Chinese government to make a CPU based on the AMD64 architecture for which VIA has a licence. Also remember that VIA has a GPU design that works perfectly well (albeit not fast enough to be competitive with ATi or nVidia) called the S3 Chrome.

The way that things seem to happen in China, it's only a matter of time before US trade sanctions against Huawei hurt the USA more than they do Huawei. China will have their own x86 CPU that, while perhaps not as fast as the offerings of AMD and Intel at the time, will be plenty fast enough for their purposes. I also expect that they'll advance the S3 Chrome GPU to the point that, again, it won't match ATi or nVidia but it will still be plenty fast enough that they won't need anything else.

China also has an advanced ARM CPU design that they have powering their supercomputers and let's not forget that IBM made the IBM Power CPU lithography an open-source product. The IBM Power CPU is an EXTREMELY capable design with some of the fastest supercomputers in the world using this architecture. I full expect China to exploit that as well.

We can also expect China to do wonders with RISC-V because, well, that's what they do. They take something and run with it to make it better and cheaper. That's a VERY powerful skill to have.
 

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