Huge pagefile on ssd and 16gb ram

[dsr07mm]

So I'm getting tired of this. I tested on couple new AAA titles, last one and most consistence one for benchmarks in my PC was Rise of the Tomb Raider. Game use about 5-6GB ram, while my pagefile is about 10gigs with only running game. It's set to system manage though but again that much on 16gb ddr3 ram ? Also when I try and turn off my pagefile I still have same numbers, perhaps a bit lower in rivatuner/msi afterburner so i wonder can you even disable totally pagefile on Windows 10 ?

Or I shouldnt worry about that on my SSD at first place at all ? OS and benchmark games/games which i play a lot during day are on ssd aswel.

 

[USAFRet]

Don't turn it off, just reduce it.
This is my pagefile, also 16GB RAM:

1GB min/max

 

[dsr07mm]

Don't turn it off, just reduce it.
This is my pagefile, also 16GB RAM:

1GB min/max

Thanks, I assume it's okay if I run games for couple hours aswel, correct ? I'm doing it now.

 

[USAFRet]

Don't turn it off, just reduce it.
This is my pagefile, also 16GB RAM:

1GB min/max

Thanks, I assume it's okay if I run games for couple hours aswel, correct ? I'm doing it now.

I've had it set like that for almost 4 years. No worries.
I suggest rebooting after you set it, though.

 

[nitrium]

Don't turn it off, just reduce it.
This is my pagefile, also 16GB RAM:
1GB min/max

I've got mine turned off completely, and have done so for a number of years (Win7 x64 and now Win 10) without any issues whatsoever. Is there any reason to have it on when you have plenty of actual RAM to burn for apps/games?

 

[ccampy]

Yes there is some window's functions can require it and experience odd issues and errors with it disaed

 

[dsr07mm]

Well i did lowered to 1024 in both fields but there again I tested and under ram in top left corner, first number is ram usage, second number is pagefile. I just got increased ram usage i think, I did restarted PC. Is there any other way of checking actual pagefile ?

 

[USAFRet]

Don't turn it off, just reduce it.
This is my pagefile, also 16GB RAM:
1GB min/max

I've got mine turned off completely, and have done so for a number of years (Win7 x64 and now Win 10) without any issues whatsoever. Is there any reason to have it on when you have plenty of actual RAM to burn for apps/games?

In the case of a BSOD, that pagefile is what it writes to and displays to you.

 

[SBMfromLA]

If you have at least 6GB of RAM... you really don't need to have a Pagefile on your drive. There are some people who are adamant on keeping it and there are others who say you can turn it off.

Personally, I just turn mine off and never had any crashes or problems. If you want, you can try turning yours off for a few days to see if you have any problems, which I doubt you will..

Some people believe it's not good to keep a Pagefile on an SSD because of the excessive writes...

 

[dsr07mm]

What about this ? Is there a way to monitor pagefile during gaming on second monitor atleast ? Just making sure that my OS is working fine.

Well i did lowered to 1024 in both fields but there again I tested and under ram in top left corner, first number is ram usage, second number is pagefile. I just got increased ram usage i think, I did restarted PC. Is there any other way of checking actual pagefile ?

 

[ccampy]

Open resource moniter it will have ram and page file use on there but why are you worrying about it so much? It won't be reducing your fps or anything

 

[dsr07mm]

Open resource moniter it will have ram and page file use on there but why are you worrying about it so much? It won't be reducing your fps or anything

I'm not worried but people have different opinions and they are actually worried so I wanted to make sure that my ssd life is used properly. If you ask me I would leave system manage setting at pagefile but 10 gigs was worrying me as number, not that I had performance loss or something like that. As long as my ssd can work properly and handle that writting from pagefile and not lower overall life under 3 years since i have warranty I'm good..

Although fact that I'm gaming a lot with Diablo 3 and other competetive games for like 8-10+ hours per day sometimes and running pagefile all the time at higher numbers was a bit concerning though since i wouldn't like to have ssd issues earlier then normal.

 

[dsr07mm]

Btw final question, lifespan (average) with decent amount of gaming/pagefile and photoshop casual usage can be measured in years right ? When do you usually go for warranty and replacement ? Casual benchmark run once per couple months and checking speeds or ?

Thanks, I sorted out things with pagefile and other stuff.

 

[USAFRet]

SSD lifespan? Years. Literally.
As in decades.

If you care to extrapolate:
My previous boot drive, a 120GB Kingston....3.5 yrs old. Now just a secondary drive. Still running 24/7.
Current power on is 29,275 hours. Total Host writes = 12.47TB

Nothing special done to prevent 'excessive writes'. Pagefile reduced to 1GB, moved the Libraries off of it, simply for space needs.

Given that current SSD's have a warranty of 75 or 150TB total writes, or 3/5/10 years, depending on size/make/model, etc....
Extrapolate out that 29,000 hours (3.3 years) and 12.5TB total writes.
You get a couple of decades before you hit that 75TB warranty level.

It will become obsolete due to size long before it dies due to too many writes.

I have another SSD (250GB Samsung EVO) that is 100% dedicated to Lightroom cache and photo editing. It too will last years.

 

[dsr07mm]

SSD lifespan? Years. Literally.
As in decades.

If you care to extrapolate:
My previous boot drive, a 120GB Kingston....3.5 yrs old. Now just a secondary drive. Still running 24/7.
Current power on is 29,275 hours. Total Host writes = 12.47TB

Nothing special done to prevent 'excessive writes'. Pagefile reduced to 1GB, moved the Libraries off of it, simply for space needs.

Given that current SSD's have a warranty of 75 or 150TB total writes, or 3/5/10 years, depending on size/make/model, etc....
Extrapolate out that 29,000 hours (3.3 years) and 12.5TB total writes.
You get a couple of decades before you hit that 75TB warranty level.

It will become obsolete due to size long before it dies due to too many writes.

I have another SSD (250GB Samsung EVO) that is 100% dedicated to Lightroom cache and photo editing. It too will last years.

Then there is no reason to care about anything there, I thought that it's measured in months if cache/pagefile is not controlled since everyone talk about that while on hdd rarely i can see topic about that.

I will leave pagefile on auto for now since i'm using integrated gpu (which use ram for destkop etc) for my third monitor while i have 43" tv and 24" monitors for gaming through hdmi/vga and i cant buy adapter. But eventually I might reduce pagefile. Other then that I should be good then. Warranty is on 60 months so I should be good

Thanks.

 

[nitrium]

Then there is no reason to care about anything there, I thought that it's measured in months if cache/pagefile is not controlled since everyone talk about that while on hdd rarely i can see topic about that.

SSDs are far more durable than many think.
http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-data-retention-after-600tb
e.g. a 240GB Samsung TLC SSD lasted for 600TB. MLC 240 GB drives make it to the petabyte stage (1,000 TB)!

Anyway, so I disabled the Pagefile because it's obviously a LOT slower than system RAM and I want to force Windows to use the actual RAM first. People might argue that it already does that, but if you set pagefile to dynamically resize, you can see it definitely changes size constantly even when the free system RAM is >50% - i.e. Windows utilises the pagefile even when it doesn't remotely need to. Further space on my SSD is always at a premium and the pagefile imo (even at 1GB) is simply a waste of space (you can't change it's location - it HAS to be on C:/).

 

[dsr07mm]

Then there is no reason to care about anything there, I thought that it's measured in months if cache/pagefile is not controlled since everyone talk about that while on hdd rarely i can see topic about that.

SSDs are far more durable than many think.
http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-data-retention-after-600tb
e.g. a 240GB Samsung TLC SSD lasted for 600TB. MLC 240 GB drives make it to the petabyte stage (1,000 TB)!

Anyway, so I disabled the Pagefile because it's obviously a LOT slower than system RAM and I want to force Windows to use the actual RAM first. People might argue that it already does that, but if you set pagefile to dynamically resize, you can see it definitely changes size constantly even when the free system RAM is >50% - i.e. Windows utilises the pagefile even when it doesn't remotely need to. Further space on my SSD is always at a premium and the pagefile imo (even at 1GB) is simply a waste of space (you can't change it's location - it HAS to be on C:/).

Yup I get that and I will most likely at one point disable reduce to 1gb pagefile, for now I just wanna enjoy in my new setup. Thanks everyone for info !