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I am ticked at Id Software. They always push back the release dates on every
game too too too much as of this point right now Doom 3 for Xbox is pushed
back to April 4th, 2005. Can any video game company ever stop pushing back
release dates, or is it just common nature to play with us gamers like
puppets?
 
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:44:26 GMT, "Michael Becker"
<mbecker7@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

>I am ticked at Id Software. They always push back the release dates on every
>game too too too much as of this point right now Doom 3 for Xbox is pushed
>back to April 4th, 2005. Can any video game company ever stop pushing back
>release dates, or is it just common nature to play with us gamers like
>puppets?
>

It was Activision's decision, not Id's. The game is basically done,
but Activsion wanted to delay the game to the start of their next
financial year.
 
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"Imperium" <frankmelo@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:44:26 GMT, "Michael Becker"
> <mbecker7@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>I am ticked at Id Software. They always push back the release dates on
>>every
>>game too too too much as of this point right now Doom 3 for Xbox is pushed
>>back to April 4th, 2005. Can any video game company ever stop pushing back
>>release dates, or is it just common nature to play with us gamers like
>>puppets?
>>
>
> It was Activision's decision, not Id's. The game is basically done,
> but Activsion wanted to delay the game to the start of their next
> financial year.

Makes good sense especially if they have had a good financial year so far.
 
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"Michael Becker" <mbecker7@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I am ticked at Id Software. They always push back the release dates on
>every game too too too much as of this point right now Doom 3 for Xbox is
>pushed back to April 4th, 2005. Can any video game company ever stop
>pushing back release dates, or is it just common nature to play with us
>gamers like puppets?
>

Usually release dates you see are predictions by websites or magazines.
Until an official release date is set, which usually isn't until the product
goes gold or very close, all release dates are suspect. Best to push back a
release date than have a buggy game in hand.
 
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"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>
> --
> Hal 9000
> hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>

Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all encompassing
statements like the one above will often result in being incorrect.
 
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"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>
>> --
>> Hal 9000
>> hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>
>
> Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all encompassing
> statements like the one above will often result in being incorrect.
>

Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
 
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> >I am ticked at Id Software. They always push back the release dates on
> >every game too too too much as of this point right now Doom 3 for Xbox is
> >pushed back to April 4th, 2005. Can any video game company ever stop
> >pushing back release dates, or is it just common nature to play with us
> >gamers like puppets?
> >
>
> Usually release dates you see are predictions by websites or magazines.
> Until an official release date is set, which usually isn't until the
product
> goes gold or very close, all release dates are suspect. Best to push back
a
> release date than have a buggy game in hand.
>
>

tell that to the majority of PC gamers and they'll laugh in your face...
 
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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>
>> "Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hal 9000
>>> hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>
>>
>> Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all encompassing
>> statements like the one above will often result in being incorrect.
>>
>
> Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
> without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>

Pong
Tetris
 
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WJM wrote:
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>
>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>
>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>
>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Hal 9000
>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all encompassing
>>>statements like the one above will often result in being incorrect.
>>>
>>
>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>
>
>
> Pong
> Tetris

Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?

Swi
 
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"USAF LM" <MMMmmmmm@spam.eat> wrote in message
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> WJM wrote:
>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>> news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>
>>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Hal 9000
>>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in being
>>>>incorrect.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Pong
>> Tetris
>
> Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
>
> Swi

No, is that what you call an intelligent post?
 
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WJM wrote:

>>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
>>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in being
>>>>>incorrect.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Pong
>>>Tetris
>>
>>Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
>>
>>Swi
>
>
> No, is that what you call an intelligent post?

You're the ony who said that there were "Plenty of games [that] have
been released without flaws." So, which games are they?

Swi
 
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"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> "USAF LM" <MMMmmmmm@spam.eat> wrote in message
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>> WJM wrote:
>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>>> message news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Hal 9000
>>>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
>>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in being
>>>>>incorrect.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pong
>>> Tetris
>>
>> Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
>>
>> Swi
>
> No, is that what you call an intelligent post?
>

What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On top of
that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
computer.
 
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
<snip>
> What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On top
> of that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat
the
> computer.

Well, yeah, the original Pong didn't have an AI...
 
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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "USAF LM" <MMMmmmmm@spam.eat> wrote in message
>> news:110v7p5qbvqf23f@corp.supernews.com...
>>> WJM wrote:
>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>>>> message news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Hal 9000
>>>>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
>>>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in being
>>>>>>incorrect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pong
>>>> Tetris
>>>
>>> Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
>>>
>>> Swi
>>
>> No, is that what you call an intelligent post?
>>
>
> What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On top of
> that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
> computer.
>

You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named two. You
claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the computer,
but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?
 
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"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>
>> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> news:YGNPd.11715$oO.5980@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>
>>> "USAF LM" <MMMmmmmm@spam.eat> wrote in message
>>> news:110v7p5qbvqf23f@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> WJM wrote:
>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>>>>> message news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>Hal 9000
>>>>>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
>>>>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in being
>>>>>>>incorrect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>>>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pong
>>>>> Tetris
>>>>
>>>> Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
>>>>
>>>> Swi
>>>
>>> No, is that what you call an intelligent post?
>>>
>>
>> What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On top of
>> that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>> computer.
>>
>
> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named two.
> You claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
> computer, but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is
> flawed?


You said PLENTY of games and then you came up with two. We can ask anyone
in here who has played Pong extensively and they can all attest that there
is little or no AI. You may consider that perfectly normal but I don't. I
played Tetris 10 times at the most in my life so I don't know if it is
flawed or not. Why in the heck can't you name a game from the last decade
at least to prove your point?
 
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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> > "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
message
> > news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> news:YGNPd.11715$oO.5980@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >>>
> >>> "USAF LM" <MMMmmmmm@spam.eat> wrote in message
> >>> news:110v7p5qbvqf23f@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>> WJM wrote:
> >>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
> >>>>> message news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>Hal 9000
> >>>>>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
> >>>>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in
being
> >>>>>>>incorrect.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games
released
> >>>>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pong
> >>>>> Tetris
> >>>>
> >>>> Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
> >>>>
> >>>> Swi
> >>>
> >>> No, is that what you call an intelligent post?
> >>>
> >>
> >> What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On top of
> >> that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
> >> computer.
> >>
> >
> > You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named two.
> > You claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
> > computer, but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is
> > flawed?
>
>
> You said PLENTY of games and then you came up with two. We can ask anyone
> in here who has played Pong extensively and they can all attest that there
> is little or no AI. You may consider that perfectly normal but I don't.
I
> played Tetris 10 times at the most in my life so I don't know if it is
> flawed or not. Why in the heck can't you name a game from the last decade
> at least to prove your point?

Simple enough cause a flawless game in the last decade doesn't exist.
 
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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "USAF LM" <MMMmmmmm@spam.eat> wrote in message
>>>> news:110v7p5qbvqf23f@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> WJM wrote:
>>>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:NrKdnYDJ1-RQDZLfRVn-iw@comcast.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:7wHPd.651$SO.78@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Hal 9000" <hal9000mx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:377ujiF578i95U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Games will have bugs, no matter how long they pushed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Hal 9000
>>>>>>>>>hal9000mx@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Plenty of games have been released without flaws. Making all
>>>>>>>>encompassing statements like the one above will often result in
>>>>>>>>being incorrect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bugs and flaws are two different things. There may be games released
>>>>>>>without noticeable bugs but I have never seen a flawless game.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pong
>>>>>> Tetris
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that what you consider 'Plenty of games. . .'?
>>>>>
>>>>> Swi
>>>>
>>>> No, is that what you call an intelligent post?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On top of
>>> that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>>> computer.
>>>
>>
>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named two.
>> You claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
>> computer, but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is
>> flawed?
>
>
> You said PLENTY of games and then you came up with two. We can ask anyone
> in here who has played Pong extensively and they can all attest that there
> is little or no AI. You may consider that perfectly normal but I don't.
> I played Tetris 10 times at the most in my life so I don't know if it is
> flawed or not. Why in the heck can't you name a game from the last decade
> at least to prove your point?
>

How about Golf for the GameBoy (is that the last 10 years)?
 
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WJM wrote:
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
message
> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...

> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On
top of
> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the

> > computer.
> >
>
> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named
two. You
> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
computer,
> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?


TetrisDX for GB has exploits

When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left or
right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and press
A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.

Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you move
it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece. You
can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape) piece,
just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more often
everytime that you do so.
 
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"debaser" <debaserzero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> WJM wrote:
>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
> message
>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>
>> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On
> top of
>> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>
>> > computer.
>> >
>>
>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named
> two. You
>> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
> computer,
>> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?
>
>
> TetrisDX for GB has exploits
>
> When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left or
> right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and press
> A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.
>
> Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you move
> it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece. You
> can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape) piece,
> just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more often
> everytime that you do so.
>

Bam! Thanks D. Take that.
 
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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "debaser" <debaserzero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> WJM wrote:
>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>> message
>>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>
>>> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On
>> top of
>>> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>>
>>> > computer.
>>> >
>>>
>>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named
>> two. You
>>> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
>> computer,
>>> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?
>>
>>
>> TetrisDX for GB has exploits
>>
>> When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left or
>> right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and press
>> A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.
>>
>> Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you move
>> it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece. You
>> can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape) piece,
>> just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more often
>> everytime that you do so.
>>
>
> Bam! Thanks D. Take that.
>

That was the GB version.

How about these:

Super Monkey Ball
Chessmaster
Super Bust-a-Move
 
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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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> "debaser" <debaserzero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> WJM wrote:
>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>> message
>>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>
>>> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On
>> top of
>>> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>>
>>> > computer.
>>> >
>>>
>>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named
>> two. You
>>> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
>> computer,
>>> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?
>>
>>
>> TetrisDX for GB has exploits
>>
>> When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left or
>> right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and press
>> A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.
>>
>> Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you move
>> it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece. You
>> can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape) piece,
>> just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more often
>> everytime that you do so.
>>
>
> Bam! Thanks D. Take that.
>

Take that? What are you 12?
 
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"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:16idnYZmIMS2No_fRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>>
>> "debaser" <debaserzero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1108517751.540859.304640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> WJM wrote:
>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>>> message
>>>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On
>>> top of
>>>> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>>>
>>>> > computer.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named
>>> two. You
>>>> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
>>> computer,
>>>> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?
>>>
>>>
>>> TetrisDX for GB has exploits
>>>
>>> When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left or
>>> right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and press
>>> A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.
>>>
>>> Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you move
>>> it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece. You
>>> can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape) piece,
>>> just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more often
>>> everytime that you do so.
>>>
>>
>> Bam! Thanks D. Take that.
>>
>
> Take that? What are you 12?

No, I was actually just trying to be tame. I could have been crass but I
don't know you like that.
 
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"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:16idnYZmIMS2No_fRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>>
>> "debaser" <debaserzero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1108517751.540859.304640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> WJM wrote:
>>>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
>>> message
>>>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty. On
>>> top of
>>>> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat the
>>>
>>>> > computer.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I named
>>> two. You
>>>> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
>>> computer,
>>>> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is flawed?
>>>
>>>
>>> TetrisDX for GB has exploits
>>>
>>> When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left or
>>> right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and press
>>> A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.
>>>
>>> Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you move
>>> it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece. You
>>> can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape) piece,
>>> just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more often
>>> everytime that you do so.
>>>
>>
>> Bam! Thanks D. Take that.
>>
>
> That was the GB version.
>
> How about these:
>
> Super Monkey Ball
> Chessmaster
> Super Bust-a-Move
>

Super Monkey Ball is not without flaws. Super Bust-a-Move has many exploits
that my wife discovered in the head to head regarding bonuses. Chessmaster?
Give me a freaking break. You are truly stretching now.
 
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WJM wrote:
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
message
> news:16idnYZmIMS2No_fRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> >
> > "debaser" <debaserzero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1108517751.540859.304640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> WJM wrote:
> >>> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in
> >> message
> >>> news:08ydnatRiqmTcpLfRVn-ug@comcast.com...
> >>
> >>> > What was unintelligent about his question? You said plenty.
On
> >> top of
> >>> > that, Pong had a flaw in the AI that made it quite easy to beat
the
> >>
> >>> > computer.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> You said you had NEVER seen a game that didn't have a flaw. I
named
> >> two. You
> >>> claim Pong had some sort of a flaw that made it easy to beat the
> >> computer,
> >>> but I am aware of no such flaw. Do you also claim Tetris is
flawed?
> >>
> >>
> >> TetrisDX for GB has exploits
> >>
> >> When a block is falling down, move it all the way against the left
or
> >> right wall of the screen. Continue to hold down Left or Right and
press
> >> A or B very quickly to watch the block rise back up into the air.
> >>
> >> Everytime you move a piece over, the came counts it. The more you
move
> >> it, the game thinks you have more trouble with that certan piece.
You
> >> can exploit this everytime you get a Tetris (Long "I" shape)
piece,
> >> just move it from side to side as it falls. Youi will get it more
often
> >> everytime that you do so.
> >>
> >
> > Bam! Thanks D. Take that.
> >
>
> That was the GB version.
>
> How about these:
>
> Super Monkey Ball
> Chessmaster
> Super Bust-a-Move


Which version of Chessmaster?

>From Gamespot's Xbox review:

"Despite being so solidly put together, Chessmaster does have a few
flaws that will become painfully evident as you dig deeper into the
game. A couple of these concern the way the CPU interacts with the time
clock. During timed games, the CPU has a distinct advantage, because it
executes all of its moves within three seconds. If you set the clock to
infinite, you'll discover the opposite problem. For whatever reason,
when there's no time pressure, the CPU won't make a single move unless
you select the "force move" menu option every time its turn comes up.
Talk about crazy. Also, even though Ubisoft did a great job
implementing online play, the company made a slight goof with regard to
two-player matches on the same console. Instead of using a second
controller, both players have to alternate turns using the same
controller."
 
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