Build Advice I need advice for a DDR5 build --- Ryzen 5 7600 vs Ryzen 5 8600G ?

[ishrah21]

I intend to build a new AMD DDR5 system soon.

Purpose: (i) basic uses like browsing, watching series; (ii) gaming in weekend & weekdays (whenever time allows)

At the moment I would buy all the components except GPU as I will wait a bit for GPU prices to drop further in my country.

However, initially I would like to have a CPU (with integrated GPU) so that I can play online FC25 without lag. I really don't care much about all these latest tech like Ray tracing, FSR, DLSS, etc. All I want is to play games in PC without much lag like I used to few years back. But when I do buy GPU, then I would also play AAA single player titles like Starfield, RDR2, COD, Alan Wake, GTA V, etc and future titles.

Components to be purchased-
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600 or Ryzen 5 8600G
Mobo: Gigabyte B650M K or MSI PRO B650M-P
RAM: DDR5 16GB 1 stick (for now)
PSU: Corsair CX650 650W
Storage: 1xM.2 SSD 500GB, 1xM.2 SSD 256GB, 1xSATA SSD 1TB

Need suggestions on below queries-
(1) Without dedicated GPU, which of the Ryzen 7600/8600G will be able to run FC25 smoothly in online games?
(2) When I do buy GPU, how will the PCIe lanes be allocated?
(3) For RAM, which CL rating should I look for?

Note-
(1) GPU options for future: RX 7600/ARC B580/RX 6700 XT/RX 6700/RX 6650 XT (depending on price)
(2) Gaming Resolution: 1080P for now
(3) No overclocking will be done

 

[Why_Me]

I intend to build a new AMD DDR5 system soon.

Purpose: (i) basic uses like browsing, watching series; (ii) gaming in weekend & weekdays (whenever time allows)

At the moment I would buy all the components except GPU as I will wait a bit for GPU prices to drop further in my country.

However, initially I would like to have a CPU (with integrated GPU) so that I can play online FC25 without lag. I really don't care much about all these latest tech like Ray tracing, FSR, DLSS, etc. All I want is to play games in PC without much lag like I used to few years back. But when I do buy GPU, then I would also play AAA single player titles like Starfield, RDR2, COD, Alan Wake, GTA V, etc and future titles.

Components to be purchased-
CPU: R5 7600 or R5 8600G
Mobo: Gigabyte B650M K or MSI PRO B650M-P
RAM: DDR5 16GB 1 stick (for now)
PSU: Corsair CX650 650W
Storage: 1xM.2 SSD 500GB, 1xM.2 SSD 256GB, 1xSATA SSD 1TB

Need suggestions on below queries-
(1) Without dedicated GPU, which of 7600/8600G will be able to run FC25 smoothly in online games?
(2) When I do buy GPU, how will the PCIe lanes be allocated?
(3) For RAM, which CL rating should I look for?

Note-
(1) GPU options for future: RX 7600/ARC B580/RX 6700 XT/RX 6700/RX 6650 XT (depending on price)
(2) Gaming Resolution: 1080P for now
(3) No overclocking will be done

What is your budget and what country are you located?

 

[ishrah21]

What is your budget and what country are you located?

My country is Bangladesh and my budget is BDT 85k (equivalent to USD 708.33 approx. at current exchange rate).

 

[Why_Me]

My country is Bangladesh and my budget is BDT 85k (equivalent to USD 708.33 approx. at current exchange rate).

One stick of RAM isn't a wise choice. I would look at a DDR4-3200 build with either a Intel i5 12400F or a Ryzen 5 5600.

 

[ishrah21]

One stick of RAM isn't a wise choice. I would look at a DDR4-3200 build with either a Intel i5 12400F or a Ryzen 5 5600.

Will a 5600g and one of the above mentioned GPUs be able to run the games I mentioned?

Once I get this build, I won't update/purchase any component for the next 4/5 years. Please keep that in mind.

 

[Why_Me]

Will a 5600g and one of the above mentioned GPUs be able to run the games I mentioned?

Once I get this build, I won't update/purchase any component for the next 4/5 years. Please keep that in mind.

I'm not sure to be honest.

 

[Syntaximus]

You will be relegated to light gaming only either way over a 4-5 year period.
I hate to be that guy (especially here), but you need to save up for a more expensive purchase(s).

 

[ohio_buckeye]

5600g is already 3 years old or so. I can’t speak to all the games you’re asking about however I think with the 8000 series CPUs that you lose some of the pci e lanes so you will want to research that.

Personally, I think I’d consider going with the 7600. You could consider the 7500f to save a little as well. Not that the 8600g is bad but an article from Tom’s I read essentially said an i3 and a gtx 1650 is going to be faster.

Also if you plan to play newer games, look at the new Indiana Jones game. It requires ray tracing at a level of an rtx 2060 super. So even if you go with the apu, how long before you have to pop for a gpu anyway? They are hard to find here but if I were on a budget, the card that is interesting right now is the Intel arc b580.

Personally I just recently got a 7600x3d with a board and ram. That seems to have been a good choice for me, but then again I carried over an rx 6800xt.

As the guy above said for pc gaming it’s going to get more expensive probably. So plan what works best for you. The 7600x3d was a good choice for me but maybe for you it’s getting a pc up and running with the 8600g and playing light games for a couple of months until you save up for a gpu?

 

[ishrah21]

You will be relegated to light gaming only either way over a 4-5 year period.
I hate to be that guy (especially here), but you need to save up for a more expensive purchase(s).

I totally get your point. In that case, I would get a build with the following components within $500 and then buy GPU later.
CPU: R5 7600 or R5 8600G
Mobo: Gigabyte B650M K or MSI PRO B650M-P
RAM: DDR5 1x16GB/2x8GB
PSU: Corsair CX650 650W
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 1TB M.2 SSD
Casing: Any standard case

 

[ishrah21]

5600g is already 3 years old or so. I can’t speak to all the games you’re asking about however I think with the 8000 series CPUs that you lose some of the pci e lanes so you will want to research that.

Personally, I think I’d consider going with the 7600. You could consider the 7500f to save a little as well. Not that the 8600g is bad but an article from Tom’s I read essentially said an i3 and a gtx 1650 is going to be faster.

Also if you plan to play newer games, look at the new Indiana Jones game. It requires ray tracing at a level of an rtx 2060 super. So even if you go with the apu, how long before you have to pop for a gpu anyway? They are hard to find here but if I were on a budget, the card that is interesting right now is the Intel arc b580.

Personally I just recently got a 7600x3d with a board and ram. That seems to have been a good choice for me, but then again I carried over an rx 6800xt.

As the guy above said for pc gaming it’s going to get more expensive probably. So plan what works best for you. The 7600x3d was a good choice for me but maybe for you it’s getting a pc up and running with the 8600g and playing light games for a couple of months until you save up for a gpu?

Yes at the current moment I need a PC that can run without dedicated GPU since my current one is long overdue for a change. But since I will get a new system, I want to start PC gaming again. Therefore, my idea is to initially have a CPU with integrated GPU and later get a GPU as price starts to fall more in my country. I very much like the ARC B580 but its price start from $300 in my country and irrespective of the price, I don't have the budget now to get a build with dedicated GPU (new or used).

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I understand. I would say you could start with the 8600g and then maybe in a few months add a card in. The link below is an article from Tom’s that should give an idea on performance. Page 3 shows some of the gaming benchmarks. So I’d say check and see if those numbers are something you can live with.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-5-8600g-cpu-review/3

 

[ishrah21]

Just need few suggestions.

1. Between R5 5600G and 5600GT, which one should I get? The 5600GT is the newer release but 5600G has the better clock speed (although not very significant).
2. Since I won't overclock, is the stock cooler enough?

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Looks like the 5600gt is just a hair faster.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_5_5600gt-vs-amd_ryzen_5_5600g

Keep in mind that these 2 CPUs are socket am4 and take ddr4 memory, whereas the parts in your previous posts were socket am5 and need ddr5 memory.