Question I need help with this one, can't find out whats problem

[Aleksa1998]

Hi guys so basically i was playing game on my pc and it shutdown without any warnings. I did open my pc and look for something that could be reason but only i have felt is hot GPU and some kinda od wierd smell from my PSU but i cant be sure if it was PSU. Tried turning on but it wont turn on, only thing it was rgb lights for a second and only thing that's constantly glowing is ethernet cabel that goes to pc. Its new PSU bought it like 2months ago and since that i could hear wierd noice coming out of pc when i turn it on before this problem but the noise stops when i restart pc. I send PSU back to store for them to check it since that i have guarantee on it but it past like 2 weeks and no answer.Thanks for answering and sorry for bad gramma
So please if anybody's know the problem i would appreciate help

 

[Aeacus]

Full system specs, including PSU make and model (or part number) is? Also, how old the PSU is, and was the PSU bought new or used/refurbished?

 

[Aleksa1998]

Full system specs, including PSU make and model (or part number) is? Also, how old the PSU is, and was the PSU bought new or used/refurbished?

PSU:ugd 600w new bought
GPU: amd rx 590
Motherboard: asus prime a320m-k
Memory' card: fury beast ddr4 16gb
Ssd: silicon power ssd 512gb

 

[Aeacus]

PSU:ugd 600w new bought

This junk: UGD power D600?
Store: https://www.bcgroup-online.com/napajanja/ugd-power-d600-600w-napajanje-215591

If so, that is crap quality PSU, which went belly up and most likely fired everything it was connected to (aka your whole PC).
Moreover, you've confirmed that it released the magic smoke:

and some kinda od wierd smell from my PSU

I send PSU back to store for them to check it since that i have guarantee on it but it past like 2 weeks and no answer.

Well, the answer is simple: PSU burned up.

No matter what the store does, ask your money back. Do not get another junk.
Instead, get good quality PSU, like: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

(My 3x PCs are also powered by Seasonic. I have 2x PRIME TX-650 units and one Focus PX-550 unit. Full specs with pics in my sig.)

That is, IF the rest of your components survived.
Sadly, at this moment, and without 2nd, good quality, known to work PSU, there is no telling what other components that junk fried. MoBo and GPU are 1st to go when PSU acts up. CPU and RAM are more durable but not invulnerable either. So, you can consider your entire PC to be toast.

To know what survived and what didn't, you need 2nd, compatible PC to test the components out individually.
Or haul the PC to PC repair shop (not the same one where you bought the PSU) and pay for diagnostics.

Life lesson: Since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC.
Hence NEVER cheap out on PSU! Also, never buy used PSU either.

 

[Aleksa1998]

This junk: UGD power D600?
Store: https://www.bcgroup-online.com/napajanja/ugd-power-d600-600w-napajanje-215591

If so, that is crap quality PSU, which went belly up and most likely fired everything it was connected to (aka your whole PC).
Moreover, you've confirmed that it released the magic smoke:



Well, the answer is simple: PSU burned up.

No matter what the store does, ask your money back. Do not get another junk.
Instead, get good quality PSU, like: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

(My 3x PCs are also powered by Seasonic. I have 2x PRIME TX-650 units and one Focus PX-550 unit. Full specs with pics in my sig.)

That is, IF the rest of your components survived.
Sadly, at this moment, and without 2nd, good quality, known to work PSU, there is no telling what other components that junk fried. MoBo and GPU are 1st to go when PSU acts up. CPU and RAM are more durable but not invulnerable either. So, you can consider your entire PC to be toast.

To know what survived and what didn't, you need 2nd, compatible PC to test the components out individually.
Or haul the PC to PC repair shop (not the same one where you bought the PSU) and pay for diagnostics.

Life lesson: Since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC.
Hence NEVER cheap out on PSU! Also, never buy used PSU either.

Yes thats the one, well sadly i dont know that much about components so i we just asked for recommend of the store and they did suggest me that one. If i did know i would get some better.
Sadly i don't have second pc that can support components of this one so ill probably just take to someone to see if something else died which i hope if its that its not GPU atleast.
Thanks man for that answer cuz now i know for future to be carefull around PSU any else tips to watchout about

 

[Aeacus]

so i we just asked for recommend of the store and they did suggest me that one.

Keep in mind that sore salesperson has 0 incentive to suggest good quality PSU. If they even know what good PSU is. All their job is, is to sell stuff, regardless how good or bad it is. They especially focus on leftover stock, that no-one else is buying, so that they can get rid of it (sell it to unsuspecting customers).

With PSUs (like with other PC hardware actually), one needs to research the components and figure out if it is worth buying or not.
PSUs specifically, come in varying degree of quality. So, do your homework and read PSU reviews. If there are 0 reviews of the PSU, there are 0 reasons as of why to buy the said PSU.

E.g my PSU; Seasonic PRIME TX-650, has;
official specs: https://seasonic.com/prime-titanium/
reputable review 1: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690.html
reputable review 2: https://www.kitguru.net/components/...onic-prime-650w-titanium-power-supply-review/
reputable review 3: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11252/the-seasonic-prime-titanium-power-supply-review
Cybenetics report: https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/44/

Your UGD junk has none of it. I searched and didn't find any reviews, let alone reputable ones. Moreover, there are no actual official specs of it. All the info i could find, was it being sold in different stores. So, it is essentially a no-name crap.
And i even couldn't find a good image of PSU rail layout and Amperage rating of each rail. All i was able to make out from small low quality image, is that the UGD junk has two +12V rails and two rails are combined to magically achieve 600W. While in reality, that PSU, at best, is 300W unit. Of course, i can't actually confirm it since i can not see the Amperage rating of +12V rail on PSU label (too low quality image).

 

[Aleksa1998]

Keep in mind that sore salesperson has 0 incentive to suggest good quality PSU. If they even know what good PSU is. All their job is, is to sell stuff, regardless how good or bad it is. They especially focus on leftover stock, that no-one else is buying, so that they can get rid of it (sell it to unsuspecting customers).

With PSUs (like with other PC hardware actually), one needs to research the components and figure out if it is worth buying or not.
PSUs specifically, come in varying degree of quality. So, do your homework and read PSU reviews. If there are 0 reviews of the PSU, there are 0 reasons as of why to buy the said PSU.

E.g my PSU; Seasonic PRIME TX-650, has;
official specs: https://seasonic.com/prime-titanium/
reputable review 1: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690.html
reputable review 2: https://www.kitguru.net/components/...onic-prime-650w-titanium-power-supply-review/
reputable review 3: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11252/the-seasonic-prime-titanium-power-supply-review
Cybenetics report: https://www.cybenetics.com/evaluations/psus/44/

Your UGD junk has none of it. I searched and didn't find any reviews, let alone reputable ones. Moreover, there are no actual official specs of it. All the info i could find, was it being sold in different stores. So, it is essentially a no-name crap.
And i even could find a good image of PSU rail layout and Amperage rating of each rail. All i was able to make out from small low quality image, is that the UGD junk has two +12V rails and two rails are combined to magically achieve 600W. While in reality, that PSU, at best, is 300W unit. Of course, i can't actually confirm it since i can not see the Amperage rating of +12V rail on PSU label (too low quality image).

Okay i do understand that but why not saying that they dont know which one is good or not since i have asked for suggestions but i can admit that more of my bad since i didn't research about that PSU i was just hyped and wanted to get on game again so i wasnt looking at review,thats a definitely my bad.
One more question i dont want to annoy you cuz i am so happy that someone helped me with this and ill be careful next time and get good one.
Ill hope that if something is gone that is MoBo because i can easly replace that one,do you have some MoBo that is better then the one i have but in same rank of price or little bit higher price?

 

[Aeacus]

why not saying that they dont know which one is good or not

I've seen countless of times that salespersons know little about the hardware the store is selling.

Think about it a bit: for your store, either the salesperson didn't know that UGD was junk OR they deliberately sold you a junk.
On one instance, they didn't had knowledge of hardware. But on another instance, they had the knowledge but were lying to you.
Which one was it - difficult to tell.

do you have some MoBo that is better then the one i have but in same rank of price or little bit higher price?

Price wise, i can not tell, since i don't know your location and prices in your stores.

But chipset wise, it depends on what CPU you have.
Chipset compatibility: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am4.html#motherboard

If you have Ryzen 1000-series (e.g R5 1600) or Ryzen 2000-series G-suffix (e.g R5 2400G) then X470 chipset would be the best. But X370 and B350 chipsets are also good options.
If you have never CPU, e.g Ryzen 3000-, 4000- or 5000-series CPU, then B550 is solid choice. X570 is most feature rich.

Price wise, B-series is usually affordable. So, depending on CPU, look towards either B350 or B550 chipset MoBos.
X-series is usually the priciest. But if you can find one at cheap enough price, it could be worth it.

Also, since your A320 chipset is micro-ATX, i can not tell if ATX MoBo (much bigger) will actually fit in your PC case. Due to that, here is a list of all B350 chipset micro-ATX MoBos (ordered by name);
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=124&sort=name&f=7

And here is same list but B550 chipset micro-ATX MoBos,
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=145&sort=name&f=7

Do avoid A-series MoBos though. That chipset is barebones and bottom of the barrel.

 

[Aleksa1998]

I've seen countless of times that salespersons know little about the hardware the store is selling.

Think about it a bit: for your store, either the salesperson didn't know that UGD was junk OR they deliberately sold you a junk.
On one instance, they didn't had knowledge of hardware. But on another instance, they had the knowledge but were lying to you.
Which one was it - difficult to tell.


Price wise, i can not tell, since i don't know your location and prices in your stores.

But chipset wise, it depends on what CPU you have.
Chipset compatibility: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am4.html#motherboard

If you have Ryzen 1000-series (e.g R5 1600) or Ryzen 2000-series G-suffix (e.g R5 2400G) then X470 chipset would be the best. But X370 and B350 chipsets are also good options.
If you have never CPU, e.g Ryzen 3000-, 4000- or 5000-series CPU, then B550 is solid choice. X570 is most feature rich.

Price wise, B-series is usually affordable. So, depending on CPU, look towards either B350 or B550 chipset MoBos.
X-series is usually the priciest. But if you can find one at cheap enough price, it could be worth it.

Also, since your A320 chipset is micro-ATX, i can not tell if ATX MoBo (much bigger) will actually fit in your PC case. Due to that, here is a list of all B350 chipset micro-ATX MoBos (ordered by name);
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=124&sort=name&f=7

And here is same list but B550 chipset micro-ATX MoBos,
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=145&sort=name&f=7

Do avoid A-series MoBos though. That chipset is barebones and bottom of the barrel.

Yes i do understand that but i was thinking they do need some kind of knowledge.. well my cpu is amd Ryzen 5 2600 i we forgot to mention that one my bad, that scare me the most i mean on fitment since i did never build a pc on my own but i know basic stuff to put it together and remove and would look for someone to help me but if my GPU is dead i wont even try to fix this because there is no available amd rx 590x at my place (Serbia) only in built PCs from company's, so i hope if it is something dead by that psu is MoBo,okay thanks alot man ill look at those one u did link. ❤️