[SOLVED] i need some serious advice and suggetions

[Rocky6]

my current specs:

cpu: i5 3570 @3.40Ghz ram, : ddr3 hyperx fury 1886Mhz, Gpu: Geforce GTX 1050 ti OC edition ,psu: 350w

I mainly play fortnite and some good grahics game like gta 5, forza horizon , pubg pc etc , but from sometime idk why the cpy goes up to 91 degree c* didnt do anything that would cause that.
when i play on 60 fps stays on 75-85c* . But if i unlock the fps it goes 85c*+ almost all time . idk why , but that day when i got to know it started to heat there was a current fluctuation in my electricity tower next to me, after some time i was playing fortnite the cabinent was too hot. idk wt happend, when i touch from cabinent back panel

its the motherborad is very hottt, my case dosnt hav good cooling only one 80mm fan is the near ioshield and cpu fan thats it . even my psu gets heat too much its i ball company psu and case .My pc is around 5 years old until i added 1050ti 2yrs back. idk waht to do should i just buy new cpu cooler, new cabinent and a powersupply and play with it for another 2yrs and buy a fully new pc after that, OR my plan is to change to new, cpu: rysen 5 2600 , mobo: gigabyte b450, ram: 8gb ddr4 corsair venegance, and 550w psu and same gpu (for sometime), and a new good cooling system case. and later ill upgrade my gpu to rtx 2060 when the price goes to lowestand use it for another 5yrs . i know there is a bottleneck of 10% for that plan spec. Pls suggest me what to do i need some real help here my brain is already lagging to think this much

 

[Rocky6]

If you're referring it to me, I do understand how bottlenecks work. It's like you're pairing an old Intel Pentium chip with RTX 3080 where playing like let's say Tom Raider, the CPU Usage is already at max while the GPU usage still chilling at 10-30%. But what I don't understand is that he keep asking is the CPU will bottleneck the GPU? I mean, what I intended to answer is, using the GTX 1050 Ti won't be able to get high fps on high settings EVEN if you're CPU is capable playing on that settings. But that doesn't mean it's bottleneck right? It's just the GPU is already at full capability. So that's not bottleneck, like I answered before. I'm not sure why the OP guy keep asking and he even wrote new thread yesterday answering the exactly same question.

But overall, @Shektron 's last answer has great details of your question dear @Rocky6 . I'm not sure what to expect if you'd still asking about "bottlenecking".

The 10400 and the R5 3600 are both good options for upgrade, and no the 10400 will not bottleneck the 1050 Ti or the 2060, I don't think the other guy understands how bottlenecks work. With the 10400, you don't really need fast RAM, and you can use a cheaper board like B460 or even H410(wouldn't recommend H410 as they're mostly very low quality). With the R5 3600, you get the benefit of having unlocked multiplier even on B450, which means you can overclock it. But it needs fast RAM to avoid bottleneck, at least 3200 MHz speed, recommended is 3600 MHz. The 10400 has locked multiplier, you can't overclock it on any board, but it doesn't need fast RAM, even 2400 or 2666 MHz will be fine. The performance difference between these two chips wouldn't be very noticeable, especially if your monitor is 60-144 Hz.

You can compare the prices of the compatible motherboards, what RAM you'll need to buy, and the CPU itself, and based on that make your decision. I think a decent B460 board will cost you at least $90, and a decent B450 board will also be in that range only. So motherboards will be approximately the same cost, no matter you go Intel or AMD. The 10400 is about $180 right now, the 2600 is $140, and 3600 is $200. RAM is a little harder to price, because the prices change almost daily. As of typing this, 3000 MHz RAM actually costs lesser than 2400 or 2666 MHz RAM, probably due to sale on some store. Anyway, usually I've seen 16 GB of 3200-3600 MHz RAM costing around $70-75, and 2400 MHz is near the $50 mark.

You'll need to make your choice based on prices, because neither of these CPU's is going to cause any bottlenecking in your system, neither with the 1050 Ti nor with the 2060. Both are capable CPUs, and both have their pros and cons. Right now, it seems the best value is probably going to be a 2600 with a B450 board and some 3200 MHz RAM. 16 GB of 3200 MHz can be bought for $57 as of typing this, which is a pretty good price. The 3600 is better than the 2600, of course, but the difference really doesn't show up unless you have a high refresh rate monitor, that is above 120 Hz.

ok thx for ur effort for these details very much helped me . as u said @srektron ill go whith with specs u said r5 2600 and 16gb b450 aand i hav 60hz moonitor . can i stream and play without fps drops i think streaming need more cpu work so?can i stream without lag . i even play high graphic game like forza horizon battlefield v will i get best out of my gpu for these high graphic game with these specs.( i only stream fornite low setting)

 

[Rocky6]

GTX 1050 Ti won't be able to get high fps on high settings EVEN if you're CPU is capable playing on that settings

it can run high graphic games around 40fps cech youtube vidoes

 

[Rocky6]

pls can someone explain this video how does he get almost everytime more than 140+ fps in 1050ti (

View: https://youtu.be/wtqQB-URQeE
) i currently have i5 3570 8gb ddr3 but i get normaly 90 -120 fps pls check tht video out and someone explain

 

[Rae Nelvin]

pls can someone explain this video how does he get almost everytime more than 140+ fps in 1050ti (

View: https://youtu.be/wtqQB-URQeE
) i currently have i5 3570 8gb ddr3 but i get normaly 90 -120 fps pls check tht video out and someone explain

He (The YouTube Guy) has AMD Ryzen 7 3700X which won't bottleneck the GTX 1050 Ti at any point. And he has insanely fast RAM which is 16 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz CL 14. So his specs won't bottleneck anything and will support streaming and gaming with no problem. While with yours, your CPU is unable to send files faster to your GPU that can make it's a little bit bottlenecking. And your RAM basically is barely enough to do the multitasking. 16Gb of RAM is mandatory for smooth streaming and gaming.

You might want to see this video since it's basically the same with yours.

View: https://youtu.be/r_mLZkzvuTo

 

[Rae Nelvin]

it can run high graphic games around 40fps cech youtube vidoes

It sure can. But the best streaming quality, obviously for fast movement games such fps games, you'll need at least 60 fps so people could watch it smoothly. And that's what I meant by your GPU is unable to run games on HIGH settings.

 

[Rocky6]

He (The YouTube Guy) has AMD Ryzen 7 3700X which won't bottleneck the GTX 1050 Ti at any point. And he has insanely fast RAM which is 16 GB DDR4 3200 Mhz CL 14. So his specs won't bottleneck anything and will support streaming and gaming with no problem. While with yours, your CPU is unable to send files faster to your GPU that can make it's a little bit bottlenecking. And your RAM basically is barely enough to do the multitasking. 16Gb of RAM is mandatory for smooth streaming and gaming.

You might want to see this video since it's basically the same with yours.

View: https://youtu.be/r_mLZkzvuTo

my real point is i dont want to change my gpu for an year and i want the best fps i could possibly get by my gpu by upgrading some components. so if i somehow save money and buy r5 3600, b450aurous elite, 16gb ram 3200mhz so will i get the same fps as him?

 

[Rocky6]

It sure can. But the best streaming quality, obviously for fast movement games such fps games, you'll need at least 60 fps so people could watch it smoothly. And that's what I meant by your GPU is unable to run games on HIGH settings.

bro i only stream at low setting only fortnite, i meant it can run games like gta 5 at high 70 fps but i know its not a very powerful gpu for modern games

 

[Rae Nelvin]

my real point is i dont want to change my gpu for an year and i want the best fps i could possibly get by my gpu by upgrading some components. so if i somehow save money and buy r5 3600, b450aurous elite, 16gb ram 3200mhz so will i get the same fps as him?

Yes bro. That's what I was saying. Upgrade your CPU and you're good to go

 

[Rocky6]

Yes bro. That's what I was saying. Upgrade your CPU and you're good to go

will there be any differeance with ram speed for fps?like if i go 2666mhz

 

[Rae Nelvin]

will there be any differeance with ram speed for fps?like if i go 2666mhz

Yes. But not a lot. AMD CPUs demands fast RAM speed. 2666 Mhz is the minimum requirement to run with AMD CPUs. And you'll need to Overclock the RAM to 3000 Mhz or more. And IMO, the sweet spot is 3000 Mhz +. So I'd really recommend you go with 3000 Mhz RAM or more.

 

[Rocky6]

Yes. But not a lot. AMD CPUs demands fast RAM speed. 2666 Mhz is the minimum requirement to run with AMD CPUs. And you'll need to Overclock the RAM to 3000 Mhz or more. And IMO, the sweet spot is 3000 Mhz +. So I'd really recommend you go with 3000 Mhz RAM or more.

bro thank u so much . i think ill go with it . bro but i hav to ask one question which i may do if something happens and
change my budget . bro i told u earlier my mobo and cpu gets heated so much . bro what if i just change to a very good cpu cooler and very good airflow cooling and 550w psu and will it lower my mobo and cpu temp significantly?ill do if u say that mobo will be perfectly fine and prevent motherboard damage and work fine for an year

 

[Rae Nelvin]

bro thank u so much . i think ill go with it . bro but i hav to ask one question which i may do if something happens and
change my budget . bro i told u earlier my mobo and cpu gets heated so much . bro what if i just change to a very good cpu cooler and very good airflow cooling and 550w psu and will it lower my mobo and cpu temp significantly?ill do if u say that mobo will be perfectly fine and prevent motherboard damage and work fine for an year

Sure it'll go much better having a nice airflow and having good cooler to lower the temp. So yes, you can longer your CPU lifespan using aftermarket cooler and good case if you can find one.

 

[Rocky6]

Sure it'll go much better having a nice airflow and having good cooler to lower the temp. So yes, you can longer your CPU lifespan using aftermarket cooler and good case if you can find one.

Will motherboard temp go down? Currently it's like real hot . I mean I'm still using with very hight temp right now I'll change cooling shortly, after changing cooling will still have a good life span after I used in very high temp. I mean will the thing "I used in very high temp" will affect the performance after cooling?of cpu and mobo both

 

[Rae Nelvin]

Will motherboard temp go down? Currently it's like real hot . I mean I'm still using with very hight temp right now I'll change cooling shortly, after changing cooling will still have a good life span after I used in very high temp. I mean will the thing "I used in very high temp" will affect the performance after cooling?of cpu and mobo both

Yes, of course. Clear cooling airflow will surely helps lower your CPU temp and your motherboard temp. But make sure, your CPU cooler will compatible with your target CPU. So you won't buy another CPU Cooler agian.

 

[Rocky6]

Yes, of course. Clear cooling airflow will surely helps lower your CPU temp and your motherboard temp. But make sure, your CPU cooler will compatible with your target CPU. So you won't buy another CPU Cooler agian.

thanks will it overall increase my perforance? i mean can i stream(i did stream with it before but with some lite lag) with it i5 3570 1050ti 8gb ddr3 1600., 550w and new good cpu cooler and a very good airflow cose?

 

[Rae Nelvin]

thanks will it overall increase my perforance? i mean can i stream(i did stream with it before but with some lite lag) with it i5 3570 1050ti 8gb ddr3 1600., 550w and new good cpu cooler and a very good airflow cose?

Not sure. If the lag is occurred when you're playing games too long and the CPU hit high temperature that's resulting on thermal throttle, then yes the aftermarket cooler and good airflow case will lower the CPU temp and won't make any thermal throttle/lags. But, if the lags occurred even when the CPU temp isn't that high, then it's the CPU fault. Not the temp. And if the case is that, you'll need to buy new CPU.

 

[Rocky6]

Not sure. If the lag is occurred when you're playing games too long and the CPU hit high temperature that's resulting on thermal throttle, then yes the aftermarket cooler and good airflow case will lower the CPU temp and won't make any thermal throttle/lags. But, if the lags occurred even when the CPU temp isn't that high, then it's the CPU fault. Not the temp. And if the case is that, you'll need to buy new CPU.

actually i was streaming everyday for a week i wasnt not getting high cpu temp that much but after i stopped streaming i think the the reason tht the cpu became high temp i think its i was playing fortnite that time when i was playing i was getting too much render problems , so i went to creative (where its like a traing map) i could get best fps, i unlocked the fps from 60 to unlimited ingame i was getting around 240fps standing still ( i knew it would over 120fps my cpu% goes 100) so i stand still at 240fps for like 10min and i went a solo my render problem was fixed and after some time my screen became blurry i was - will continues with this reply

 

[Rocky6]

actually i was streaming everyday for a week i wasnt not getting high cpu temp that much but after i stopped streaming i think the the reason tht the cpu became high temp i think its i was playing fortnite that time when i was playing i was getting too much render problems , so i went to creative (where its like a traing map) i could get best fps, i unlocked the fps from 60 to unlimited ingame i was getting around 240fps standing still ( i knew it would over 120fps my cpu% goes 100) so i stand still at 240fps for like 10min and i went a solo my render problem was fixed and after some time my screen became blurry i was - will continues with this reply

CONTINUED-trriedfied it never happend but there i got the problem i got very burnt smell in my room i thought is was pc and i touched the cabinent the case was soo hot i turned off game as quickly i could. i was scared very much after sometime i turned on i was still getting blurry screen so u unplugged the hdmi cable from gpu and replugged and the blurrinees was gone so i downloaded cpu temp software i was getting 55-60c idle temp i launced fortnite and i figured out if i unlock my fps from 60 its goes upto 90c i think this is all because i did some idiot thing which 100%cpu resulted in high temp . what do u think of this. is it because of that?

 

[Rae Nelvin]

CONTINUED-trriedfied it never happend but there i got the problem i got very burnt smell in my room i thought is was pc and i touched the cabinent the case was soo hot i turned off game as quickly i could. i was scared very much after sometime i turned on i was still getting blurry screen so u unplugged the hdmi cable from gpu and replugged and the blurrinees was gone so i downloaded cpu temp software i was getting 55-60c idle temp i launced fortnite and i figured out if i unlock my fps from 60 its goes upto 90c i think this is all because i did some idiot thing which 100%cpu resulted in high temp . what do u think of this. is it because of that?

Most likely you've burnt your thermal paste. That's as far as I know. Well, rather than you spend some bucks on buying new CPU cooler that won't match with the new CPU later, might as well you check your thermal paste by pulling out curent CPU Cooler. And apply new thermal paste and let's see if that can lower your idle and gaming temp.

 

[Rocky6]

Most likely you've burnt your thermal paste. That's as far as I know. Well, rather than you spend some bucks on buying new CPU cooler that won't match with the new CPU later, might as well you check your thermal paste by pulling out curent CPU Cooler. And apply new thermal paste and let's see if that can lower your idle and gaming temp.

The mobo get heated if cpu gets heat?

 

[Rae Nelvin]

The mobo get heated if cpu gets heat?

Most likely. Plus if there's no good airflow from the case, no cable management, it can put the heat up on the motherboard.

 

[Rocky6]

Most likely. Plus if there's no good airflow from the case, no cable management, it can put the heat up on the motherboard.

thnk u so much bro