Question I tried to overclock the RAM but it gives me slower startup ?

[menteinstabile]

I tried to overclock the ram but it gives me slower start, why? how to fix?
I pushed it from 4800 to 5800 and when it starts there is a 20 sec of red light inside my pc and then it starts normally. Of course I turned the number back to normal.
any advices? Something else I can Improve after seeing my PC specs?

Cheers

My PC:
Windows 11 pro 64-bit
AMD Ryzen 5 7600x
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super
Kingston FURY Beast 32GB 6000MT/s DDR5
Kingston KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Gigabyte UD850GM power supply unit 850 W

 

[CountMike]

I tried to overclock the ram but it gives me slower start, why? how to fix?
I pushed it from 4800 to 5800 and when it starts there is a 20 sec of red light inside my pc and then it starts normally. Of course I turned the number back to normal.
any advices? Something else I can Improve after seeing my PC specs?

Cheers

My PC:
Windows 11 pro 64-bit
AMD Ryzen 5 7600x
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super
Kingston FURY Beast 32GB 6000MT/s DDR5
Kingston KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI
Gigabyte UD850GM power supply unit 850 W

Just use EXPO or XMP , whatever that RAM supports and set for 6000MHz. At 5800MHZ you are actually downclocking it. If you force it manually like that it has to do "Memory training" at every boot. Also make sure you have newest BIOS version,

 

[menteinstabile]

Just use EXPO or XMP , whatever that RAM supports and set for 6000MHz. At 5800MHZ you are actually downclocking it. If you force it manually like that it has to do "Memory training" at every boot. Also make sure you have newest BIOS version,

I wish I could understand something of what you are saying, I'm quite new in the PC world. Maybe I should make more research.

 

[michellestanleyny]

Overclocking RAM can cause instability, leading to slower boot times due to improper voltage or timings. Fix this by adjusting RAM voltage, reducing frequency, or resetting to default settings

 

[CountMike]

I wish I could understand something of what you are saying, I'm quite new in the PC world. Maybe I should make more research.

Check manual for your MB, in BIOS you will find settings for either XMP (Extreme Memory Profile ) or EXPO (AMD Extended Profiles for Overclocking), they are built into RAM's control chip which tells BIOS how to set up for nest results. Your memory has EXPO. Set it to 6000MHZ and that's it,

 

[menteinstabile]

Overclocking RAM can cause instability, leading to slower boot times due to improper voltage or timings. Fix this by adjusting RAM voltage, reducing frequency, or resetting to default settings

I can adjust the ram voltage? wow. idk how

 

[menteinstabile]

Check manual for your MB, in BIOS you will find settings for either XMP (Extreme Memory Profile ) or EXPO (AMD Extended Profiles for Overclocking), they are built into RAM's control chip which tells BIOS how to set up for nest results. Your memory has EXPO. Set it to 6000MHZ and that's it,

I tried both XMP and EXPO. I selected profile 1, 6000 mhz, ( there are only two options , profile 2 is 5700mhz i think) I restarted the PC multiple times and there is always a scary super slow start.

 

[CountMike]

I tried both XMP and EXPO. I selected profile 1, 6000 mhz, ( there are only two options , profile 2 is 5700mhz i think) I restarted the PC multiple times and there is always a scary super slow start.

Are RAMs in right slots?

 

[menteinstabile]

Are RAMs in right slots?

there are 4 slots and my 2 rams are in the second and fourth slots. ( I made this first pc a month ago and I tried to insert the ram 4 times and the pc was not turning on, for some reasons a technician put the ram again in this position and it worked. I don't know where was the magic because I was pushing the ram and made it click, I am a bit scared to move the ram again) will it change something if I move it? (I'm counting the ram from the left to the right, from the CPU to outside.)

 

[CountMike]

there are 4 slots and my 2 rams are in the second and fourth slots. ( I made this first pc a month ago and I tried to insert the ram 4 times and the pc was not turning on, for some reasons a technician put the ram again in this position and it worked. I don't know where was the magic because I was pushing the ram and made it click, I am a bit scared to move the ram again) will it change something if I move it? (I'm counting the ram from the left to the right, from the CPU to outside.)

Look in the manual for that MB RAM should be in A2 and B2 slots which are not necessarily i same order.

 

[menteinstabile]

there are 4 slots and my 2 rams are in the second and fourth slots. ( I made this first pc a month ago and I tried to insert the ram 4 times and the pc was not turning on, for some reasons a technician put the ram again in this position and it worked. I don't know where was the magic because I was pushing the ram and made it click, I am a bit scared to move the ram again) will it change something if I move it?

Look in the manual for that MB RAM should be in A2 and B2 slots which are not necessarily i same order.

O yeah the manual video shows to put it in the a2 and b2, that's why it wasn't working in the past. however it's all good, except for the fact that the overclocking is still not fully working due to the 20 sec waiting time at the launch and I still don't know why

 

[CountMike]

O yeah the manual video shows to put it in the a2 and b2, that's why it wasn't working in the past. however it's all good, except for the fact that the overclocking is still not fully working due to the 20 sec waiting time at the launch and I still don't know why

Are they in A2 and B2?

 

[menteinstabile]

Are they in A2 and B2?

yes

 

[TheHerald]

I tried both XMP and EXPO. I selected profile 1, 6000 mhz, ( there are only two options , profile 2 is 5700mhz i think) I restarted the PC multiple times and there is always a scary super slow start.

That's normal with Zen 4 - zen 5. High cocked ram cause slow boot times. There are ways to mitigate it by disabling memory context and skipping memory training but i wouldn't advice it since you don't really know what you are doing. Set your PC to sleep instead of shutting down and there you go i guess.

 

[menteinstabile]

That's normal with Zen 4 - zen 5. High cocked ram cause slow boot times. There are ways to mitigate it by disabling memory context and skipping memory training but i wouldn't advice it since you don't really know what you are doing. Set your PC to sleep instead of shutting down and there you go i guess.

thank you for the info, but turning it to sleep mode is not a normal solution to me.

 

[lolvatveo]

higher clock but higher delay timing ram can slower than faster. the ddr5 clock speed is advertise not give much fast like you migrate ddr3 to ddr4, ddr5 timing delay is still high. if you are pro expert overclocker you can try to manualy reduce ram timing, don't let timing auto set

 

[menteinstabile]

higher clock but higher delay timing ram can slower than faster. the ddr5 clock speed is advertise not give much fast like you migrate ddr3 to ddr4, ddr5 timing delay is still high. if you are pro expert overclocker you can try to manualy reduce ram timing, don't let timing auto set

I understood nothing, and I don't see the solution

 

[rgd1101]

solution is learn about overclocking or use the auto. every system is different

 

[SkyNetRising]

it's all good, except for the fact that the overclocking is still not fully working due to the 20 sec waiting time at the launch and I still don't know why

Memory training is happening.
Nothing to worry about.

Can you show screenshots from CPU-Z - memory and spd sections?
(upload to imgur.com and post link)

 

[menteinstabile]

Memory training is happening.
Nothing to worry about.

Can you show screenshots from CPU-Z - memory and spd sections?
(upload to imgur.com and post link)

I wish I could share an image but this website is stupid. this is the best I can do sorry:

X
CPU-Z
CPU
Mainboard
Memory
SPD
Graphics
Bench
About
General
Type
DDR5
Channels #
2 × 32-bit
Size
32 GBytes
DC Mode
NB Frequency
2397.4 MHZ
Timings
DRAM Frequency
2399.4 MHZ
FSBRAM
1:24
CAS# Latency (CL)
40.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)
39 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP)
39 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS)
77 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)
116 clocks
Command Rate (CR)
DRAM Idle Timer
Total CAS# (tRDRAM)
Row To Column (tRCD)
Version 2.09.1
Validate
OK

CPU-Z
- X
CPU
Mainboard Memory
SPD
Graphics
Bench
About
Memory Slot Selection
Slot #2
DDR5
Module Size
16 GBytes
Max Bandwidth
DDR5-6000 (3000 MHz)
SPD Ext.
EXPO, XMP 3.0
Module Manuf.
Kingston
Week/Year
25 / 24
DRAM Manuf.
SK Hynix
Buffered
Part Number
KF560C36-16
Correction
Serial Number
CE0685F5
Registered
Timings Table
EXPO-6000 EXPO-5600
XMP-6000
XMP-5600
Frequency
3000 MHz
2800 MHZ
3000 MHz
2800 MHZ
CAS# Latency
36.0
36.0
36.0
36.0
RAS # to CAS#
38
38
38
38
RAS# Precharge
38
38
38
38
tRAS
80
80
80
80
tRC
118
118
118
118
Command Rate
Voltage
1.350 V
1.250 V
1.350 V
1.250 V
Version 2.09.1
Validate
OK

 

[rgd1101]

upload image to imgur.com then post the link here. we got enough junk

 

[SkyNetRising]

I wish I could share an image but this website is stupid. this is the best I can do sorry:

Open imgur.com ,
find <new post> button in upper left corner of the page,
upload your image
and post link here.

 

[lolvatveo]

you can see your current ram timing is higher than xmp timing standard this is why your pc is slow even you overclock ram. please go to bios and set lower ram timing same as xmp standard, then you can use prime95 to blend ram and test stability. your ram support 6000mhz. you can let everything auto, only set xmp profile to 6000mhz in bios and see what happened? is your pc can boot? then compare current timing to standard xmp timing in cpuz. you may need to update bios to latest version so it may have more ram info and support. overclock ram better