Question I want to Get a Nvme motherboard

[LiViDIceCream]

I want to install a M2 but my motherboard doesn't have the slot. What's a good motherboard around £100+/- for this. (I have a gtx 1650 for reference)

Please and thank you! 😊

 

[USAFRet]

I want to install a M2 but my motherboard doesn't have the slot. What's a good motherboard around £100+/- for this. (I have a gtx 1650 for reference)

Please and thank you! 😊

What are the rest of the parts in this system?

What do you use it for?

 

[LiViDIceCream]

What are the rest of the parts in this system?

What do you use it for?

Games and basic video editing.

Specs I can check exactly when I get home.
Which spec would you like to know. ( In terms of wattage?)

 

[USAFRet]

Games and basic video editing.

Specs I can check exactly when I get home.
Which spec would you like to know. ( In terms of wattage?)

Need to know ALL the parts.
CPU/current motherboard, PSU, etc, etc.

Make/model of everything.

 

[LiViDIceCream]

Need to know ALL the parts.
CPU/current motherboard, PSU, etc, etc.

Make/model of everything.

I don't want to waste your time, so I'll post the exact parts in a bit when I get back home 😊

 

[USAFRet]

I don't want to waste your time, so I'll post the exact parts in a bit when I get back home 😊

No problem. Whenever you have it ready.

 

[USAFRet]

But...

Given that use case, and that your current motherboard apparently has no M.2 port....an NVMe drive may not be worth the cost and effort.

But, a list of your current parts will tell the tale.

 

[USAFRet]

A couple of videos to help in your decision...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ9LyNXpsOo

 

[LiViDIceCream]

But...

Given that use case, and that your current motherboard apparently has no M.2 port....an NVMe drive may not be worth the cost and effort.

But, a list of your current parts will tell the tale.

Seagate BarraCuda 1TB HDD (ST1000DM010)

I5-7400 3Ghz

BaseBoard: H110M PRO-VD PLUS (MS-7A15)

Gtx1050

Do you need anything else?
I play Rust, it has a hard time with my HDD

 

[USAFRet]

Seagate BarraCuda 1TB HDD (ST1000DM010)

I5-7400 3Ghz

BaseBoard: H110M PRO-VD PLUS (MS-7A15)

Gtx1050

Do you need anything else?
I play Rust, it has a hard time with my HDD

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/H110M-PRO-VD-PLUS-/Specification
For that, I would just put in a 2.5" SATA III SSD.

There are only 3x PCIe slots in that, the one PCIe 3.0 slot is taken by your GPU?
The other 2 are only PCIe 2.0 x1, would would hamper any NVMe drive performance.


How much space is consumed on your current C drive, the HDD?
A clone operation from HDD to SSD is a possibility.

 

[USAFRet]

And changing the motherboard just for NVMe capability is a waste.
Once we move beyond HDD, games don't really benefit from the different SSD types.

If you're going to change the motherboard, consider a whole platform upgrade.
Motherboard, CPU, RAM, etc.

 

[LiViDIceCream]

https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/H110M-PRO-VD-PLUS-/Specification
For that, I would just put in a 2.5" SATA III SSD.

There are only 3x PCIe slots in that, the one PCIe 3.0 slot is taken by your GPU?
The other 2 are only PCIe 2.0 x1, would would hamper any NVMe drive performance.


How much space is consumed on your current C drive, the HDD?
A clone operation from HDD to SSD is a possibility.

I have a friend who had similar load times on rust as me, after he installed an m2, the time went down by half. That was the idea for me, but you definitely know better.

Would you recommend any Sata3 SSD or where to buy one?

I have 470Gb and 400Gb is used up.

 

[USAFRet]

I have a friend who had similar load times on rust as me, after he installed an m2, the time went down by half. That was the idea for me, but you definitely know better.

Would you recommend any Sata3 SSD or where to buy one?

I have 470Gb and 400Gb is used up.

There is a MAJOR difference between HDD and SSD.
Not so much major difference between different flavors of SSD.
See the above videos.

Samsung 860 EVO or Crucial MX500.
1TB

Where to buy depends on where you buy stuff.

In the US, Amazon or Newegg.

 

[LiViDIceCream]

I have a friend who had similar load times on rust as me, after he installed an m2, the time went down by half. That was the idea for me, but you definitely know better.

Would you recommend any Sata3 SSD or where to buy one?

I have 470Gb and 400Gb is used up.

There is a MAJOR difference between HDD and SSD.
Not so much major difference between different flavors of SSD.
See the above videos.

Samsung 860 EVO or Crucial MX500.
1TB

Where to buy depends on where you buy stuff.

In the US, Amazon or Newegg.

Thank you! Amazon it is.

 

[USAFRet]

When you get it, we can go through the whole clone process.

Move the entire contents of the current HDD to the new SSD.


This:
-----------------------------
Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
-----------------------------
Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Both drives must be the same partitioning scheme, either MBR or GPT
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung target SSD)
If you are cloning from a SATA drive to PCIe/NVMe, you may need to install the relevant driver for this new NVMe/PCIe drive.
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up

Verify the system boots with ONLY the current "C drive" connected.
If not, we have to fix that first.

Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive

[Ignore this section if using the SDM. It does this automatically]
If you are going from a smaller drive to a larger, by default, the target partition size will be the same as the Source. You probably don't want that
You can manipulate the size of the partitions on the target (larger)drive
Click on "Cloned Partition Properties", and you can specify the resulting partition size, to even include the whole thing
[/end ignore]

Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD. This is not optional.
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD

(swapping cables is irrelevant with NVMe drives, but DO disconnect the old drive for this next part)
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it.
This will probably require the commandline diskpart function, and the clean command.

Ask questions if anything is unclear.
-----------------------------

 

[LiViDIceCream]

When you get it, we can go through the whole clone process.

Move the entire contents of the current HDD to the new SSD.


This:
-----------------------------
Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
-----------------------------
Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Both drives must be the same partitioning scheme, either MBR or GPT
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung target SSD)
If you are cloning from a SATA drive to PCIe/NVMe, you may need to install the relevant driver for this new NVMe/PCIe drive.
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up

Verify the system boots with ONLY the current "C drive" connected.
If not, we have to fix that first.

Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive

[Ignore this section if using the SDM. It does this automatically]
If you are going from a smaller drive to a larger, by default, the target partition size will be the same as the Source. You probably don't want that
You can manipulate the size of the partitions on the target (larger)drive
Click on "Cloned Partition Properties", and you can specify the resulting partition size, to even include the whole thing
[/end ignore]

Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD. This is not optional.
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD

(swapping cables is irrelevant with NVMe drives, but DO disconnect the old drive for this next part)
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it.
This will probably require the commandline diskpart function, and the clean command.

Ask questions if anything is unclear.
-----------------------------

Seems doable, just bought the Crucial MX500 2 TB CT2000MX500SSD1-Up to 560 MB/s (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD).
Are these external 3.0 connectors any good or useful, like read write wise? Sabrent USB 3.0 to SSD / 2.5-Inch SATA I/II/III Hard Drive Adapter (EC-SSHD)

 

[USAFRet]

Seems doable, just bought the Crucial MX500 2 TB CT2000MX500SSD1-Up to 560 MB/s (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD).
Are these external 3.0 connectors any good or useful, like read write wise? Sabrent USB 3.0 to SSD / 2.5-Inch SATA I/II/III Hard Drive Adapter (EC-SSHD)

That external thing is of no use in your system.

They work, but you don't need one.

 

[Nighthawk117]

I want to install a M2 but my motherboard doesn't have the slot. What's a good motherboard around £100+/- for this. (I have a gtx 1650 for reference)

Please and thank you! 😊

You can use an add in card for one of your free PCI-E slots, I've used one in my machine for several years. Something like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SilverSton...WOJ0/ref=dp_prsubs_1?pd_rd_i=B01798WOJ0&psc=1

Replacing your motherboard on it's own is a waste of money, you would be better off getting a new motherboard and CPU.

May I ask what the use case is for the NVME? In my experience you won't notice any benefit over SATA unless your doing specific things with very large files.

 

[USAFRet]

You can use an add in card for one of your free PCI-E slots, I've used one in my machine for several years.

The limited PCIe slots on his particular motherboard negates any benefit of an NVMe in an adapter.

 

[LiViDIceCream]

The limited PCIe slots on his particular motherboard negates any benefit of an NVMe in an adapter.

Hey again, I've got the drive but no extra pci slots to copy over my data, how do I do this now?

 

[LiViDIceCream]

When you get it, we can go through the whole clone process.

Move the entire contents of the current HDD to the new SSD.


This:
-----------------------------
Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
-----------------------------
Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Both drives must be the same partitioning scheme, either MBR or GPT
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung target SSD)
If you are cloning from a SATA drive to PCIe/NVMe, you may need to install the relevant driver for this new NVMe/PCIe drive.
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up

Verify the system boots with ONLY the current "C drive" connected.
If not, we have to fix that first.

Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive

[Ignore this section if using the SDM. It does this automatically]
If you are going from a smaller drive to a larger, by default, the target partition size will be the same as the Source. You probably don't want that
You can manipulate the size of the partitions on the target (larger)drive
Click on "Cloned Partition Properties", and you can specify the resulting partition size, to even include the whole thing
[/end ignore]

Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD. This is not optional.
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD

(swapping cables is irrelevant with NVMe drives, but DO disconnect the old drive for this next part)
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe all partitions on it.
This will probably require the commandline diskpart function, and the clean command.

Ask questions if anything is unclear.
-----------------------------

I'm trying to figure out how to connect the new drive, can you help

 

[USAFRet]

I'm trying to figure out how to connect the new drive, can you help

You need a SATA data cable, and SATA power comes directly off the PSU.

This new Crucial connects exactly the same way your current HDD does.