I would choose Nvidia 6800 over Ati X800

[Les]

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"Ryan Atici" <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> > Prove it.
>
> It is already proven...
>

Proven where, by whom?

Show me the proof, do not merely state its proven then not back the
statement up.
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[BP]

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On Sun, 9 May 2004 09:59:55 +0100, "Les" <a@aolnot.com> wrote:

>
>"Ryan Atici" <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote in message
>news:2g5c52F4n32iU1@uni-berlin.de...
>> > Prove it.
>>
>> It is already proven...
>>
>
>Proven where, by whom?
>
>Show me the proof, do not merely state its proven then not back the
>statement up.
That's all he can.

 

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 20:24:49 -0400, "Ryan Atici"
<atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote:

>>I wouldn't pay $500 for a video card. By the time the card gets down
>>to $200, the drivers should work fine.
>
>
>By that time, another video card will come out to overshadow that video
>card,
>
>and you will want to get the best one,
>...

Your screwball logic hit the bottom right there.

I meant exactly what I said, not what you dream.

 

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On Sun, 09 May 2004 02:38:30 GMT, "somnambulist"
<somnambulist@simplybeinglove.not> wrote:

>
>"Ryan Atici" <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote in message
>news:2g5bnfF4le0lU1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >>It occasionally crashes with ATI cards. When the ATI card is removed,
>> >>everything back to normal.
>>
>> >You really don't have a clue what you're talking about do you?
>>
>> You're the one who is stuck with ATI, not me! I've learned from my past
>> experience and moved on as apposed to you getting stuck in the unstable,
>> occasional crash-world of ATI.
>
>I'm afraid I'm stuck in the world of completely stable ATI products, Mr
>Nvidia fanboy.
>
>You go on and on about ATI products being unstable, yet I and many users
>have nothing but the polar opposite to say about them. You have so far been
>complete unable to prove your wild theory and back it up with facts, so I
>suggest that you go back, research things a little more and then eat your
>humble pie when you finally realise you're talking complete and utter
>twaddle.
>
>> >> >I personally like having a crash free system..
>> >>
>> >> Then ATI is a bad choice.
>>
>> >No fanboy, letting you use a computer - unsupervised - was a bad choice.
>>
>> Bad choice is allowing you to talk without parental guidance... That' the
>> real bad choice...
>
>You might think so.... I couldn't possibly comment.
>
>> >Now go back to your room like a good little boy, and don't be tempted to
>> >switch on the scary machine about which you don't have a clue what to do
>> >with.
>>
>> I am sure that's what your parents tell you to do. At least, you're
>catching
>> on...
>
>No my dear boy, I'm afraid it's you that needs to catch on.
>
>Let me say it again, just so we're clear: prove your stupid theory and
>people might actually take your wild rantings seriously, until you've done
>that though, start smacking yourself with a piece of clue by four until you
>realise you're talking rubbish.

Nvidia drivers still tend to be more stable than ATI. I use both
chipsets and have for years (currently TI4400, FX5200, 9600XT, 9800pro
with windows 2000 and XP) and i consistently have less issues with
NVidia drivers. That being said, I love my ATI cards and I wish they
would get their act together with better testing of their drivers.
NVidia gets feedback from their "leaked" betas. Does ATI? I have never
even seen a beta driver from them,so who knows.

 

[Pluvious]

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 20:24:49 -0400, "Ryan Atici"
<atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote:

||>I wouldn't pay $500 for a video card. By the time the card gets down
||>to $200, the drivers should work fine.
||
||By that time, another video card will come out to overshadow that video
||card, and you will want to get the best one, then you will say again that
||you want to wait until the price of the new video card drops down to $200,
||and by that time, a stable driver should be put out. As you wait for that
||one, another new card will be released to overshadow that video card as
||well. It is a never-ending cycle.


And how is this different then Nvidia? They have cards that cost $500
and will eventually get down to $200 as well. Ryan, you're either a
troll trying to get ATI users all upset or just stupid.

Pluvious

 

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Simple example, a recent one posted by Harry Putnam. Let's read what kind of
problem he is having with his 9800XT. ;-)

----------
Group,

Some times on bootup, and it seems to be happening more often, I get
my initial login screen but with some kind of strange overlay or
corruption.

The overlay consists of columns of bars about 1 1/4 inches long and
columns that strech full length of monitor. About 8-10 columns wide.
Columns have about an inch of space between them. Something like:

====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ======
====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ======
====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ======
[...]

Its transparent but opaque enough that it makes doing any thing
impossible. Usually a full stop/restart sequence is required to make
it disappear. A reboot usually doesn't do it.

And sometimes even a full stop/restart and it still shows up for
several cycles.

Mobo is the Asus KV8 mobo for athlon64.

Any one have a clue what might be the cause of this?

----------


Now let's read how another poster named Dave W. responds
----------
Some rumors say that Athlon 64 motherboards are having some conflicts with
Radeon cards.
----------

I rest my case. ATI cards cause nothing but never-ending problems. Problems
related to video card driver, problems related to some sort of motherboard
or this or that incompatibility. Problems, problems, nothing but
never-ending problems with ATI cards. You ATI losers, I mean "users" are
pathetically in denial to acknowledge the wide-spread and well-known
problems of the ATI cards...

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On Sun, 09 May 2004 14:29:23 -0400, NoneOfBusiness
<NoneOfBusiness@nob.net> wrote:

>Nvidia drivers still tend to be more stable than ATI. I use both
>chipsets and have for years (currently TI4400, FX5200, 9600XT, 9800pro
>with windows 2000 and XP) and i consistently have less issues with
>NVidia drivers. That being said, I love my ATI cards and I wish they
>would get their act together with better testing of their drivers.

Exactly what problems are you having with the drivers ?

>NVidia gets feedback from their "leaked" betas. Does ATI? I have never
>even seen a beta driver from them,so who knows.

So what. You bitch about buggy drivers but then you want beta drivers
? Doesn't make sense to me.

 

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--
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> >Nvidia drivers still tend to be more stable than ATI. I use both
> >chipsets and have for years (currently TI4400, FX5200, 9600XT, 9800pro
> >with windows 2000 and XP) and i consistently have less issues with
> >NVidia drivers. That being said, I love my ATI cards and I wish they
> >would get their act together with better testing of their drivers.
>
> Exactly what problems are you having with the drivers ?

He's simply having "lying" problems. ;-) That's all.

> >NVidia gets feedback from their "leaked" betas. Does ATI? I have never
> >even seen a beta driver from them,so who knows.
>
> So what. You bitch about buggy drivers but then you want beta drivers
> ? Doesn't make sense to me.

ATI users lack common sense since they can't come to terms with the flaws of
ATI cards.

 

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Pluvious wrote:
> And how is this different then Nvidia? They have cards that cost $500
> and will eventually get down to $200 as well. Ryan, you're either a
> troll trying to get ATI users all upset or just stupid.


....or both.

Ben
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On Sun, 09 May 2004 18:26:38 -0400, bp <6ball@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 May 2004 14:29:23 -0400, NoneOfBusiness
><NoneOfBusiness@nob.net> wrote:
>
>>Nvidia drivers still tend to be more stable than ATI. I use both
>>chipsets and have for years (currently TI4400, FX5200, 9600XT, 9800pro
>>with windows 2000 and XP) and i consistently have less issues with
>>NVidia drivers. That being said, I love my ATI cards and I wish they
>>would get their act together with better testing of their drivers.
>
>Exactly what problems are you having with the drivers ?
>
>>NVidia gets feedback from their "leaked" betas. Does ATI? I have never
>>even seen a beta driver from them,so who knows.
>
>So what. You bitch about buggy drivers but then you want beta drivers
>? Doesn't make sense to me.


I am just making the point that with people testing beta drivers (not
me) that nvidia can have feedback on what sorts of "problems" they may
have and "fix" them accordingly. As a software developer, this is a
huge plus to have others test your code and give you feedback.

 

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"NoneOfBusiness" <NoneOfBusiness@nob.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 09 May 2004 02:38:30 GMT, "somnambulist"
> <somnambulist@simplybeinglove.not> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ryan Atici" <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> >news:2g5bnfF4le0lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> >>It occasionally crashes with ATI cards. When the ATI card is removed,
> >> >>everything back to normal.
> >>
> >> >You really don't have a clue what you're talking about do you?
> >>
> >> You're the one who is stuck with ATI, not me! I've learned from my past
> >> experience and moved on as apposed to you getting stuck in the
unstable,
> >> occasional crash-world of ATI.
> >
> >I'm afraid I'm stuck in the world of completely stable ATI products, Mr
> >Nvidia fanboy.
> >
> >You go on and on about ATI products being unstable, yet I and many users
> >have nothing but the polar opposite to say about them. You have so far
been
> >complete unable to prove your wild theory and back it up with facts, so I
> >suggest that you go back, research things a little more and then eat your
> >humble pie when you finally realise you're talking complete and utter
> >twaddle.
> >
> >> >> >I personally like having a crash free system..
> >> >>
> >> >> Then ATI is a bad choice.
> >>
> >> >No fanboy, letting you use a computer - unsupervised - was a bad
choice.
> >>
> >> Bad choice is allowing you to talk without parental guidance... That'
the
> >> real bad choice...
> >
> >You might think so.... I couldn't possibly comment.
> >
> >> >Now go back to your room like a good little boy, and don't be tempted
to
> >> >switch on the scary machine about which you don't have a clue what to
do
> >> >with.
> >>
> >> I am sure that's what your parents tell you to do. At least, you're
> >catching
> >> on...
> >
> >No my dear boy, I'm afraid it's you that needs to catch on.
> >
> >Let me say it again, just so we're clear: prove your stupid theory and
> >people might actually take your wild rantings seriously, until you've
done
> >that though, start smacking yourself with a piece of clue by four until
you
> >realise you're talking rubbish.
>
> Nvidia drivers still tend to be more stable than ATI. I use both
> chipsets and have for years (currently TI4400, FX5200, 9600XT, 9800pro
> with windows 2000 and XP) and i consistently have less issues with
> NVidia drivers. That being said, I love my ATI cards and I wish they
> would get their act together with better testing of their drivers.
> NVidia gets feedback from their "leaked" betas. Does ATI? I have never
> even seen a beta driver from them,so who knows.

In my experience I've had more problems with Nvidia drivers than owt else
(I've got a GF3ti200 and an FX5900, in addition to the far superior Radeon
9700 Pro and the X800XT PE I'll get!!). It's all horses for courses
though - what works for one might not work for another.... I'll not mention
closed, private Beta testing of ATI drivers though ;-)

At least you've given us a little background on your experiences, for which
you're to be commended, which is more than can be said for Bushwhacker.

--
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[BP]

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On Sun, 9 May 2004 18:48:51 -0400, "Ryan Atici"
<atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote:

>> You rest your case ?
>
hey Ryan I found this from you

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:ryan+author:atici&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=c0of5e%24195i8q%241%40ID-186312.news.uni-berlin.de&rnum=61

Looks like you have Nvidia driver problems. LOL

It's no wonder you have driver problems you can't even do enter level
tech support.

I have a question for you.
If GW Bush bought a Nvidia card would that make you a Nazi ? LOL

Later troll boy.

Don't bother replying your post are now in the trash bin.

 

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>hey Ryan I found this from you
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:ryan+author:atici&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=c0of5e%24195i8q%241%40ID-186312.news.uni-berlin.de&rnum=61
>
>Looks like you have Nvidia driver problems. LOL
>
>It's no wonder you have driver problems you can't even do enter level
>tech support.
>
>I have a question for you.
>If GW Bush bought a Nvidia card would that make you a Nazi ? LOL
>
>Later troll boy.
>
>Don't bother replying your post are now in the trash bin.

LMAO, good find!!! you may want to point him to the power button as
well...

 

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On Sun, 9 May 2004 19:01:41 +0100, "Ben Pope" <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Pluvious wrote:
>> And how is this different then Nvidia? They have cards that cost $500
>> and will eventually get down to $200 as well. Ryan, you're either a
>> troll trying to get ATI users all upset or just stupid.
>
>
>...or both.
>
>Ben


Absolutely, Ben. But he hasn't half got a lot of people going! ;-)


patrickp

patrickp@5acoustibop.co.uk - take five to email me

 

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> >I have a question for you.
> >If GW Bush bought a Nvidia card would that make you a Nazi ? LOL

George W. Bush is not smart enough to buy the right video card. So he would
pick up an ATI card. ;-)

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On Mon, 10 May 2004 01:18:09 -0400, "Ryan Atici"
<atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote:

>> >I have a question for you.
>> >If GW Bush bought a Nvidia card would that make you a Nazi ? LOL
>
>George W. Bush is not smart enough to buy the right video card. So he would
>pick up an ATI card. ;-)

you must also think the world is flat

 

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"Ryan Atici" <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> > >I have a question for you.
> > >If GW Bush bought a Nvidia card would that make you a Nazi ? LOL
>
> George W. Bush is not smart enough to buy the right video card. So he
would
> pick up an ATI card. ;-)

Nvidia lies, drivers die....

PLONK

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"OverKlocker" <nunya@biznez.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 May 2004 01:18:09 -0400, "Ryan Atici"
> <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>>> >I have a question for you.
>>> >If GW Bush bought a Nvidia card would that make you a Nazi ? LOL
>>
>>George W. Bush is not smart enough to buy the right video card. So he
>>would
>>pick up an ATI card. ;-)
>
> you must also think the world is flat

Pretty sure GWB thinks so too hehe

 

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> Indeed.... he sounds very upset and violent about GWB doesn't he? ;-)
>
> --
> somnambulist

Because he is the biggest idiot as well as a warlord. It is sad that such
idiot represents the American people. He doesn't care about the lives of the
American soldiers getting killed every single day in Iraq. All he cares
about this own agenda. This idiot promised a creation of 3 million extra
jobs, but during his presidency we lost 3 million jobs. In defiance of the
United Nations, he waged war against Iraq thinking he was all mighty and
could handle the war without the approval of other nations, when the death
toll of the American troops started rising, he started seeking support of
the United Nations. George W. Bush gotta go for the well-being of our
country.

Vote him out!

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> The sad thing is that even though he goes about it like a moron I
> agree (some what) with him.

At least, you can be honest from time to time. ;-)

> Kind of scary.
> Makes me think that when I finally "Grow up" I may be just like him.
> .............NOT ! ;-)

You're growing into your senses. You're in the right direction. ;-)

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On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:40:47 -0400, bp wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 2004 18:48:51 -0400, "Ryan Atici"
> <atici_ryan_OSMANLI@hotpop.com> wrote:
>
>>> You rest your case ?
>>
> hey Ryan I found this from you
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:ryan+author:atici&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=c0of5e%24195i8q%241%40ID-186312.news.uni-berlin.de&rnum=61
>
> Looks like you have Nvidia driver problems. LOL
<snip>

hahahaha

How humiliating!

--

"Now I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
You won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
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> >>> You rest your case ?
> >>
> > hey Ryan I found this from you
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:ryan+author:atici&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=c0of5e%24195i8q%241%40ID-186312.news.uni-berlin.de&rnum=61
> >
> > Looks like you have Nvidia driver problems. LOL
> <snip>

It is not Nvidia driver problem, idiot. Read it again! It is a problem
related to operating system assigning a letter for the slave hard drive. I
just wanted to change the automatically assigned letter to another letter of
my choice.

> hahahaha
>
> How humiliating!

It is not more humiliating than ATI performance after paying $500. ;-)

Did you learn everything in your mother's uterus before you were born,
idiot? I bet you didn't know anything about XP right off the bat when you
started using that operating system. It is not a shame to ask and seek
information.

It is shame to be persistently in denial in spite of known flaws of the ATI
cards. If you don't mind, I have no choice but rest my case again 'cause I
just scored a bull's eye again. ;-)

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Oh dear.. where did I put it. I can't seem to find it..any....where the hell
is it.? OHHHH! There it is.. Right below me. I knew I put it somewhere.

>
> Write this down! If Bush is re-elected, the draft will be re-instated on
> June 15, 2005. And thousands of unwilling U.S. citizens who don't believe
in
> this war and don't want to get killed in this war will be drafted and
> killed.
>
> --
> Ryan Atici
> atici_ryan_osmanli@hotpop.com
> To send email, remove _osmanli

It seems we'll be separating the men from the boys real quick then. Flee if
you want. I won't think any less of you than I already do,... that's for
sure.

 

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>It seems we'll be separating the men from the boys real quick then. Flee if
>you want.

All you're gonna separate is the dead soldiers from the survivors of
leftover soldiers. Yep, we all saw how 130 thousand American soldiers
behaved as boys as handful of Iraqi Al-Sadr's supporters stopped the
American troops. There is more to being a man than you think.

>I won't think any less of you than I already do,... that's for
>sure

Nothing is less than your own misconception. That's for sure.

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On Mon, 10 May 2004 21:16:32 -0500, "Don Burnette"
<d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote:

>
>Go to Canada.

Why?
>
>I would gladly fight, and die, for my freedom and the freedom of my children
>in the United Sates of America.

Who wouldn't?

> And I would gladly kill, all the beloved patriot
>terrorists, that I could in the process.

Do they have to be "rag head terrorist"?

>On 9/11, app 3000 of my brothers and sisters were killed by these cowards.
>They declared war, and this is war.

Pssst the ones that did that are in Pakistan (or who know where now)
not Iraq.

You sound like the rest of the lemming that blindly followed and
supported GB lies to go to war with Iraq simply because they are "rag
heads" and an easy target.

You sound more like a racist with nothing but revenge on your mind.
>
>
>--
>Don Burnette