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Which CPU is better, i3 6100 or FX 6300. I will be using them for gaming and multi tasking along with moderate video editing.
 
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Here's a quick comparison of the lower power i3 6100te oc'd to 3.6ghz, just a little slower than the 3.7ghz i3 6100 vs the fx 6300.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1645?vs=699

About the only real advantage the fx has is in zipping files in 7zip. The other advantage for the i3, when you find you need more performance from your cpu you can keep your system intact and simply replace it with an i5 or i7. With the fx 6300, provided you start with a good enough motherboard that has heatsinked vrm's and proper power delivery to handle an fx 8xxx, that's your only upgrade option. Adding two more cores to the six you already have.

As you can see the fx 8350 is only slightly better than the fx 6300...
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Hang on this guy is buying new. He doesn't own one. And really, this comes down to fact not emotion. Hr needs the best advice and I'm.not about to advise he buys old dead end tech when there are bettrr alternatives.

Now, if someone had a fx6300 and asked to upgrade to i3, I'd say no, probably don't bother.

Take the emotion out of it
 
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I risk getting off topic, but 99 times out of 100, an FX CPU does not belong in a new build in 2016, and for many uses, a Core i3 is a significant upgrade over a 6300. OP seems to be asking about a new build. I'm going to firmly disagree with anyone who steps in to defend the FX as a viable option for a new build, because owning both, I can attest that the i3 is a better CPU for general desktop use and is faster in a vast majority of games, nevermind power usage, platform, or upgrade prospects. I don't hate those recommending an FX CPU, but I'm also not going to pander to their feelings when I feel they're giving poor advice and will take it personally if I tell them so.

I would consider an FX CPU in only three use-cases, basically:

1) A cheap VM box, especially when someone lives near a Microcenter, because 8 real cores just behave better when running many VMs than two real cores with hyperthreading

2) A specialized scientific computing machine, running Linux, especially if someone lives near a Microcenter

3) As an upgrade from an older AM3+ CPU with a compatible motherboard
 
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If you own both and would recommend the i3...that takes all benching numbers and emotion out the mix and the OP has his answer.

For my part, I'm not knocking the 6300 at all. It's a capable chip, no doubt. I just can't recommend for a new build, and numbers do show that in most use cases the 6100 has it licked.
 
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An i3 rig here is 30% more expensive than an FX rig so you could really call it a double edged sword. It's wrong to say one is faster than another objectively when price to performance is clearly the case to make. I would personally buy a Pentium over a FX though, but I do try to look at it from a neutral standpoint. Jumping to conclusions happens too often, with too many missing factors, and like most threads end up with "Not available here" or "much more expensive".

 
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For clarification, I own a Haswell i3 and have both an AMD 6800K and 8320 I tinker with, in addition to the system in my signature. I've put the Haswell i3 in my wife's computer for daily use, as I feel it's a better CPU for her needs, while the APU mostly sits idle under the TV and the FX is used only as a test bench and for troubleshooting AM3+ machines from work.
 
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Like I said many times, I don't benchmark my rig, I use it. The only benchmarks I run sometimes to check the temp of my FX are Fritz and Cinebench (I like the square being drawn :) ) and that's all.
I use my rig like any user, but maybe not like any user here.
I have Chrome with 30+ tabs all the time, I encode videos, listen to music, and play at the same time. Yesterday, I was encoding a nice big MKV and playing Witcher 3 at the same time, never noticed any lag. I have Process Explorer opened all the time to check the running processes, and all the cores were at 100% use. Never noticed a thing while playing, and encoding was as fast as usual.
Really not sure it would have been the same with an i3. I wouldn't bet on that.
And it's just normal use.
Thing is, and I think it's kindda funny. All of you are saying "buy an i3, you'll be able to upgrade it later". But when is later? 2 years from now ? Would you still keep the same motherboard if you decide to change your i3 for a better one in 2-3 years? Cuz I've read many posts suggesting a change of the motherboard after a couple of years, the fatigue of the components and all...
Also, things are changing a bit now. There are more multithreaded applications being developped, and DX12 is using the cores better than DX11, so... I'm not saying that FXs are the future, especially with Zen soon knocking at our doors. But it's not a bad choice at all, it's still very effective, and will still be a viable solution in the couple of years to come. I've bought my rig in March, and I know that I'll keep it for a few years. It was cheaper than the Intel solutions, better for my needs.

Want some numbers? Check my smile, it's the real thing :)
 
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OK, you own an FX and you like yours, I think everybody gets it. When people ask for advice, they deserve the objective truth and nothing else. That's what everyone else in this thread is doing - making sure the OP gets the best setup he can for his money. You sound like your trying to push an agenda, when all it really comes down to is that you feel insulted because the hardware you're currently using is too old to be recommended for a new machine. That's not rational is it?

I don't need to go into it again - the Skylake i3 setup has numerous advantages, while the FX has almost none. Saying that it feels fast is not an argument. My Pentium system feels fast - nearly as fast as my i7 most of the time. That doesn't mean that in 5 years, the difference between the slower chip and the faster chip won't be more obvious. And for the upgrade path - when and if he wants more power, he can sell his i3 chip and drop in an i7. What can you drop in an FM3+ board? An FX-9590? Surely you don't think the FX-9590 can keep up with the 6700K?
 
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not at all.You're just doing like many here, on this thread and on TH, bashing the FX line, throwing the same numbers and the same websites over and over again. Boring, and really, lame.
My config is too old? Says you, and of course those writing the same things again. This config is still up to date, better than an i3, competing with an i5, except... ah yes, except in your benchmarks... How many have you launched today btw?


nawww of course you don't need to. What's your title here (laughable btw). Motherboard Expert? So you have to be right, and I have to be wrong. Simple. And benchmarks agree with you.


ok, so even your Pentium is faster than my FX. Not only is it too old, but you're saying now that it's a real piece of shit actually.
Did you read what you just wrote btw? "In 5 yrs the difference between the slower chip and the faster chip won't be more obvious"? Might be. Might not be. See, the OS has evolved in the last 5 yrs. Win10 and DX 12 are using multicores a lot more and a lot better than the previous Windows. Making the FX line more competitive than it was before. And for a 4 yrs old CPU, it's not that bad at all. It's even better than my old Q6600, 8 yrs in my system before I swiched to the FX.



arf... Sell his i3 chip in a couple of years? Sell it or give it. I wouldn't want one by then. I would want something that can hold the line.
Change my FX? Why? The apps are using more threads, Windows is using the cores better, GPUs are changing so that they become less dependant of the CPU, so... Why would I change my FX?
For a Zen, maybe, if it's any good. And I'm sure it will be. I might change then, when I feel it's the right time.
But even if I had a i3, I wouldn't just change the CPU. As I said, I would also change the motherboard. If the CPU has done its time, so has the motherboard.
So upgrade? Yeah right...

Like I said: the OP should get something that's recent. But not an i3 if he wants to multitasks. Better go for something more powerful like an i5 or better, if he has the money. If he doesn't, if he wants something that won't cost him a liver, something that is still a very good choice for all type of "real" use, then a FX 83XX is not to put aside. No matter what you say.

No emotion. Just the fact. From real use. Not from your boring benchmarks and boring websites.
But what do I know? You're the expert...
TH. What do you expect anyway...
 
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Why don't you just enjoy your computer and not take offence to people who are just trying to help others? I'm sure you will get many more useful years out of it. Look at my hardware in my signature - I bought that stuff a few months ago, and it's all outdated! I don't go recommending Haswell chips and 980Ti's to people building new machines. Sure, my stuff still works great, but it's all been outclassed by newer products that represent better values. That's how it goes in this business!
 
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Agree. It seems that lekeiser is much more emotionally attached to their hardware than is perhaps healthy!

Lekeiser - you do realise that benchmarks do reflect real world performance? As in, sure, some are task specific, but taken an average across them, they're quite accurate assuming they have been done properly. What is it you are doing to your fx chips that make benchmarks non valid?

My 3570k is still a strong chip, but I wouldn't take offense if someone threw up some benches showing a 6500 beating it. Its fact and the 6500 would be the better option, which I would recommend. Even the 6100 probably gets close if not beats mine in some games. So what?
 
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-core-i3-6100-review

There. That's a bench that shows the 6300 I'm good light. The i3 pretty much wins in each game, whilst the fx does slightly better in some multithreaded benches, around 5-10%. The i3 is much faster single core.

I mean the i3 is nearly twice as quick ij Crysis 3!

That's about as fair as it comes. So no bashing of the 6300...but if gaming is involved, hard not to recommend the i3, right?
 
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I do my best to avoid these types of "discussions", but this one has made me feel particularly irksome.

LeKeiser, the simple truth of the matter is that an FX CPU is not the best fit for the OP's requirements.

You continuously say that TH bashes the FX line, and there may be some truth in that, but it's not done blindly. It's not the fault of TH that AMD haven't updated their CPU architecture since 2012 is it? AMD make sterling GPUs, but their current CPU line is in desperate need of a refresh and with the arrival of Zen and AM4, nobody in their right mind should recommend an AM3+ CPU for a new build today. I'd go so far as to call it irresponsible.

I would only recommend an FX CPU to someone who had an existing AM3+ motherboard and a very limited budget.
 
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I don't take offence at all, I just would love to read fair comments instead of pure bashing.
I enjoy my computer, I really do. I don't force myself to enjoy it because I bought it and and I have to live with it. No. I enjoy it because it totally fullfils my needs all the time. I have a really strong rig, it does impress me under heavy use.
Recommending all the time the i3 over all the FXs is just plain wrong. It really depends on the use. And even someone asking for some advice, who says he's only gaming, the i3 might not be the best choice, because gaming won't be the only use hopefully of his rig. Otherwise, the best advise would be "buy a PS4 or a OneS and be happy". But no one does, so I suspect there might be some other uses than gaming :)
 
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you mean like the benchmarks you get with cars? Errr...
When you read the components they use, and for one app/game at a time, do you really believe that's what people are going to get?
Perfect (or not) situation, clean everything, launch the benchmark, get the result. But synthetics, and not useful.
I don't care about benchmarks. I care about what users are saying when they have problems, or when they report something good. Those are important.



There are more powerful CPUs all the time, every 6 months or less, you get a new one that's gonna be XX% faster than yours. So what indeed? As long as you're happy with your rig, as long as it does what you expect, so what? :)
 
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That's the thing mate, its great you are happy with your rig. This isn't actually about you. It's about advising the OP properly. You have just jumped in for no obvious reason.

No one would recommend an fx6300 vs a skylake i3 if gaming is involved. Real world and benches back that up.

I'm not totally understanding what your involvement here is.
 
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says you and the same posters all the time. Doesn't mean you're right...
there are a few who disagree with you. But they don't post anymore because it always ends the same way...


There is some truth in that.
The architecture has been upgraded since it came out. Refined. Little touches here and there. Those made the FX line a bit faster.
And when you realise that a CPU that's been out for 4 yrs is still a good competitor to the actual Intel line, then you have to agree that it's not a bad architecture at all. In fact, it's even getting better as devs are working more and more towards the use of multicores and multitask apps.
Too bad it's happening so late.


or someone who doesn't want to sell a kidney but still have a good rig able to do many things under "normal" use :)
€180 for an 8 core processor, hard to beat that price.
 
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I think TH is far from being partial. And I'm not the only one thinking that, alas.
If you can't take that critic, then... do what you want, you're a mod, right?

I'll keep on coming and participate in some threads as I want, as long as I have the right to come here (your itchy fingers want to put me out huh?)
There are still some very good discussions and some very good posters, thank God. It's nice to be able to talk to peope without being crucified for free.
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No it doesn't. But (and I bet you're like "BUT?? He really doesn't stop!! :O " ) but some games will work best (not by much) with the 6300 and so will some apps.
If someone was asking me what do get right now, I wouldn't go for an i3. The i5 line would be my recommandation. Better spend a bit more and be happy for the years to come than spending too little to have to upgrade in a too soon future.
I decided to go for the 8370 because I want to see how Zen is going to be the first 6 months it's out. Then I'll decide if I change or not. I never go for the first batch anyway.
 
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