I3 6100 vs FX 8350??

[popeyetyty]

After seeing benchmarks they perform the same, but with the I3 i need DDR4 at a way higher speed and lower voltage with better upgrade path, but im looking for upgrading to zen anyway so upgrade path dont matter. If i go with FX i will be keeping it for 1-2 years to wait for zen to settle down a bit, but if i got I3 i will still go zen and still keep it for around a year or 2 then upgrade, so if i am going zen will it be better to get the FX and use it for a year or two, then upgrade to zen with DDR4, or go FX? If i go FX i will get more ram, if i go I3 i will buy DDR4 ram. I currently got 8GB and i want 16GB on either or setup. (I been posting a lot about what CPU i get, sorry bout so many post's i just want to get the best for around the 130-150 price range on a CPU)

 

[basroil]

The i3 is cheaper than the 8350 both now and over the course of 2 years (electrical costs), even if you have to factor in buying new memory!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $239.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-05 23:13 EDT-0400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($154.81 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $244.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-05 23:17 EDT-0400

And for most games the i3 is equal to or faster than the 8350

 

[notlim981]

Intel is going to release its new generation (Kaby Lake) still this year, Zen will come in the first lights of 2017, so you better hold a couple of months to see how things will turn. As much as we consumers need some competition I'm not holding my breath for Zen unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.

 

[popeyetyty]

Intel is going to release its new generation (Kaby Lake) still this year, Zen will come in the first lights of 2017, so you better hold a couple of months to see how things will turn. As much as we consumers need some competition I'm not holding my breath for Zen unfortunately, but I hope I'm wrong.

Well i need to get a CPU this month and then upgrade it in 2 years 3 max so thats why im looking for the best CPU in the 130-150 dollar range.

 

[popeyetyty]

Almost anything will be better than my Phenom II X4 945 in that price range.

 

[iyzik]

Yeah I'm not too optimistic about Zen either. Personally I'd get the i3 so that you have the mobo/socket to upgrade to an i5 or i7 in the future.

 

[popeyetyty]

Is there a I5 better than both that is 150 dollars or under. Cant go higher than 150. i would rather have a LGA 1151 socket CPU.

 

[notlim981]

Is there a I5 better than both that is 150 dollars or under. Cant go higher than 150. i would rather have a LGA 1151 socket CPU.

Well, given your urgency for an upgrade, I'd recommend you get an i3 with a good Z170 motherboard. The reason for that is that Z170 boards will be compatible with Kaby Lake via BIOS update, so you'll have to change only the processor when it comes out. Sorry the same does not apply for AMD.

 

[Ecky]

Existing Skylake CPUs almost certainly have better per-core performance than Zen, and most games don't benefit from more than 4 hardware threads. Those that do, don't benefit from more than 6-8 hardware threads, meaning existing Skylake i7's will almost certainly be better gaming CPUs than Zen will be in a year's time.

Zen's place, if it lives up to expectations, will be in workstations and PCs used for productivity.

 

[popeyetyty]

Is there a I5 better than both that is 150 dollars or under. Cant go higher than 150. i would rather have a LGA 1151 socket CPU.

Well, given your urgency for an upgrade, I'd recommend you get an i3 with a good Z170 motherboard. The reason for that is that Z170 boards will be compatible with Kaby Lake via BIOS update, so you'll have to change only the processor when it comes out. Sorry the same does not apply for AMD.

Thanks and unfortunately not.

 

[rhysiam]

I assume you're talking about gaming here, because productivity is a bit of a different story. But for gaming the i3 is generally pretty comparable to the 8350, sometimes a little faster. The biggest difference IMHO is the platform. Even a cheap Skylake mobo will give you plenty PCIe 3.0 lanes for future upgrades, NVMe support, USB 3 on a proper Intel controller (some of the 3rd party controllers on AM3+ and older Intel mobos are significantly slower), etc.

I don't think Kaby Lake is going to offer much of an upgrade, so little point waiting for that IMHO. I'd be very surprised if we say anything more than the 5-10% we've had for the last 4 product refreshes. We'll probably see native USB 3.1 Gen 2 support, but that's it in terms of features. Nothing wrong with buying now.

 

[popeyetyty]

I assume you're talking about gaming here, because productivity is a bit of a different story. But for gaming the i3 is generally pretty comparable to the 8350, sometimes a little faster. The biggest difference IMHO is the platform. Even a cheap Skylake mobo will give you plenty PCIe 3.0 lanes for future upgrades, NVMe support, USB 3 on a proper Intel controller (some of the 3rd party controllers on AM3+ and older Intel mobos are significantly slower), etc.

I don't think Kaby Lake is going to offer much of an upgrade, so little point waiting for that IMHO. I'd be very surprised if we say anything more than the 5-10% we've had for the last 4 product refreshes. We'll probably see native USB 3.1 Gen 2 support, but that's it in terms of features. Nothing wrong with buying now.

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

 

[Ecky]

Details on Kaby Lake are already out. It's the same Skylake architecture, but built on a slightly updated 14nm+ process to allow for slightly higher clocks and slightly lower power consumption.

 

[popeyetyty]

Existing Skylake CPUs almost certainly have better per-core performance than Zen, and most games don't benefit from more than 4 hardware threads. Those that do, don't benefit from more than 6-8 hardware threads, meaning existing Skylake i7's will almost certainly be better gaming CPUs than Zen will be in a year's time.

Zen's place, if it lives up to expectations, will be in workstations and PCs used for productivity.

Im looking for gaming not Productivity and workstations.

 

[popeyetyty]

What would you guys say is the best 150 dollar maximum CPU? Out of any 150 dollar CPU.

 

[popeyetyty]

Details on Kaby Lake are already out. It's the same Skylake architecture, but built on a slightly updated 14nm+ process to allow for slightly higher clocks and slightly lower power consumption.

So not to much better.

 

[rhysiam]

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

 

[popeyetyty]

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

 

[notlim981]

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

The best you can get for 150 bucks is the i3-6300. In case you wanna have a look:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6300 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor ($141.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($137.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $323.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-05 23:33 EDT-0400

 

[Ecky]

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Somehow you managed to attribute that quote to the wrong person.

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

The Core i3 6100 is the best CPU for $100-150. Also, existing Intel CPUs are already better than Zen will be for gaming, so there's no use in waiting.

 

[rhysiam]

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

Nope. Unless you have the budget for an i5 6500 (I think the base clock on the 6400 is too low for the few dollars you save), the i3 is the gaming CPU pick.

 

[popeyetyty]

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Somehow you managed to attribute that quote to the wrong person.

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

The Core i3 6100 is the best CPU for $100-150. Also, existing Intel CPUs are already better than Zen will be for gaming, so there's no use in waiting.

What FPS will the 6100 and a R9 380x mix give on Fallout 4, Black Ops 3, BeamNG drive, Minecraft, and CS:GO? I currently get a average of 32 FPS in a city on Fallout 4 on Ultra (Maxed), 84 In BO3 maxed Motion Blur off, 136 in Minecraft maxed with 8 seing distance, 90 on CS:GO all maxed out Motion Blur off, 34 on BeamNG drive maxed out.

 

[popeyetyty]

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

Nope. Unless you have the budget for an i5 6500 (I think the base clock on the 6400 is too low for the few dollars you save), the i3 is the gaming CPU pick.

I would if i didnt have to get more ram cause BO3 now says to much ram usage and crashes my PC. I do have 1GB and a 2GB DDR3 Kingston Module but i have 2 4GB Kingston HyperX Fury modules atm.

 

[popeyetyty]

Now what is the best 60 dollar MOBO for the I3 i currently have ASUS H110M-K on the list. Ill order everything on the 12'th of this month. With my Birthday money on the 8'th.

 

[popeyetyty]

Seems like you are leaning on the FX 8350 right?

"Leaning on"? Not sure what you mean by that. I'd recommend the i3 for gaming.

Okay. And is there a better CPU that is 150 dollars for that price? (No higher)

The best you can get for 150 bucks is the i3-6300. In case you wanna have a look:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6300 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor ($141.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($137.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $323.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-05 23:33 EDT-0400

Im buying on newegg and things sold and shipped by newegg i dont want used or anything either and my max budget is 250 on the MOBO CPU and 16GB DDR4 ram for Skylake and 8 extra GB DDR3 of Kingston HyperX if i go haswell.