Hello all,
I am wondering which CPU here would be the better buy factoring in their OC performance in gaming.
I am wondering which CPU here would be the better buy factoring in their OC performance in gaming.
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They're going to be roughly the same.With that being said. which do you think would perform better, 10600k + 2070 Super vs. 3600 + 2080 Super, stock and OC on the 10600k, and PBO on the 3600? 1080p AAA
10600K, no contest.
Ryzen 3000 is just flat out not worth overclocking.
For those hung up on overcocking, Blue Team is all they should be looking at.
Ryzen 3000 on the Red Team has no OC potential. Any manual OC you could achieve on Ryzen 3000 is outdone by the following:
The higher level PBO settings + a darn good cooler. Add in memory frequencies of 3600-3800 and tightening the timings, and the gap gets even larger.
The problem with that video - heck, ANY video overclocking Ryzen for that matter, is that they're being treated in the same manner as an Intel chip.View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFiKgkRDH4E
, I don't know how valid the results are but this video is the only video that I can find where the 3700X is OC'ed and the two seem very close in performance, what do you think?
With that being said. which do you think would perform better, 10600k + 2070 Super vs. 3600 + 2080 Super, stock and OC on the 10600k, and PBO on the 3600? 1080p AAAThe problem with that video - heck, ANY video overclocking Ryzen for that matter, is that they're being treated in the same manner as an Intel chip.
They are not Intel cpus; the traditional all core OC is not as effective on them. Top notch cooling + high ram frequency and low timings will top any all core OC you'll get on Ryzen 3000.
Plus, they don't have the short term repercussions that comes with manually OC'ing Ryzen 3000.
You probably haven't heard about it yet, but others have managed to degrade and destroy their Ryzen 3000 cpus in a matter of months from doing the traditional Intel method of overclocking.
Why does it happen? It has to do with a basic function that the user takes away when manually OC'ing them: current regulation. This is not sustainable for daily use.
Ryzen 3000 normal operation:
Light loads: high voltage, high current, but few cores/threads are active at any time, running at the advertised max boost clock.
Heavy loads: low voltage, low current, most cores/threads are active, running up to the max boost clock depending on power and thermals
Ryzen 3000 manually overclocked:
Light loads: low voltage, high current, few cores/threads active, can no longer run at the advertised max boost; the user has sacrificed single core performance for more multithread.
Heavy loads: low voltage, high current, most cores/threads are active, none or slight multithread performance bump because of the OC.
The parts I've underlined is the problem with manual OC VS the cpu taking care of itself.
Overclocker's delight: Intel.
Everything else: AMD.
They're going to be roughly the same.With that being said. which do you think would perform better, 10600k + 2070 Super vs. 3600 + 2080 Super, stock and OC on the 10600k, and PBO on the 3600? 1080p AAA
10600K is the better buy for highest fps
PCI-E 3.0 is not a negative since they have just managed to saturate a 2.0 lane with the top end cards.The question I would have is the cost to build each system with what's available right now. What's the price to performance ratio?
The big negative at this time imo is Intel is still running PCIe 3.0.
PCI-E 3.0 is not a negative since they have just managed to saturate a 2.0 lane with the top end cards.
This kind of depends on the game, and how demanding it is on the graphics hardware. If one is playing something like an esports title at high frame rates, where the graphics card is limited to however many frames the CPU can process, then the 10600K's bit better gaming performance is likely to make more of difference (though how useful those extra frames will be at such high frame rates is debatable). If, on the other hand, one is playing a graphically demanding new release with the settings cranked up to ultra, then the graphics card might make more of a difference.With that being said. which do you think would perform better, 10600k + 2070 Super vs. 3600 + 2080 Super, stock and OC on the 10600k, and PBO on the 3600? 1080p AAA
Their going to do nothing with 4.0 it's only the amount of data that can be transfered.Having used an x570 with PCIe 4.0, I wouldn't have it any other way. The storage options are very fast and not as restricted as 3.0.
Will be interesting to see what Nvidia does with 4.0.
Their going to do nothing with 4.0 it's only the amount of data that can be transfered.
For the NVME speed for most users it also means nothing unless you doing a ton of data transfers.