i5-4690K and GTX 750 Ti?

[ess_ayy]

My current GTX 970 has been RMA'd so I've gotta use either Intel HD Graphics 4600 or borrow a GTX 750 To for the time being, will I have any issues with bottlenecking or anything?

 

[esco_sid]

no issues at all it can only bottleneck on CPU side and yours wont be a bottleneck for probably many years to come

 

[Darkbreeze]

Heh. Um, no. Actually, you might bottleneck the CPU with that low end card, but that shouldn't be a real issue. Be sure to turn the game settings down significantly until you get your replacement card.

 

[SinxarKnights]

Not sure if serious.

The 750 ti is extremely weak compared to the 970. Either way in all cases (HD 4600, 750, 970) your graphics card is the main limiter.

 

[ess_ayy]

So should I stick with the integrated graphics or 750 Ti? What would you guys do if you were in my situation, I want to still be able to game for a month whilst I wait for the 970

 

[Darkbreeze]

The 750 TI is much better, by far.

 

[ess_ayy]

Of course the 750 Ti is better than any integrated graphics, I just want to know if there will be any bottleneck issues from either side...

 

[Darkbreeze]

Not really, it will be fine. It will have less chance of having issues using the GPU card than the iGPU.

 

[blue_smoke]

There's not a bottleneck from either side when your cpu is more powerful than your gpu. that's not how bottlenecks work. A bottleneck would be some Intel Celeron paired with a GTX 980.

 

[Darkbreeze]

That's completely untrue. Bottlenecks can go both ways, and often do. A bottleneck refers to the slowest device in the system. With a high end GPU and a low end CPU, which is the most common, the CPU is the bottleneck. With a high end cpu and a low end GPU, the GPU is the bottleneck.

 

[blue_smoke]

Name one situation please. I've never seen a bottleneck go both ways. For example, your 8320 is a bottleneck to your 290x, not the other way around.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Then you haven't been around hardware long enough to know what you're talking about. The above scenario, with an i5 using a GTX 750, IS a GPU bottleneck.

IF the CPU is having to wait to deliver frames because the GPU can't process them fast enough, that's a bottleneck.

There are about 15 thousand threads on Tom's Hardware alone, on this issue, I'm not about to create another in depth repeat of those. You can easily read about it if you google cpu vs gpu bottleneck, or something similar.

 

[blue_smoke]

I guess.
GPU just isn't simply powerful enough for the CPU but usually it doesn't affect performance at all.
something like the celeron+980 situation mentioned before would affect performance MUCH MUCH MUCH more than the 750ti + i5.

 

[Kammex]

Name one situation please. I've never seen a bottleneck go both ways. For example, your 8320 is a bottleneck to your 290x, not the other way around.

A bottleneck doesn't have to necessarily be one processor being pushed to the limits because of not being powerful enough.
If you have a weak GPU, the CPU could have very little load and that's a bottleneck because you're not getting the full potential of both processors.
So the 750 Ti will bottleneck the i5-4690K a little, the CPU won't work at it's full potential. But since it's temporary, it will be fine.

 

[blue_smoke]

It is a technical bottleneck, but the rest of the processing could be used for recording, rendering, etc in the background and then it wouldn't feel so lazy.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I never said it was a problem. When you have a low end GPU, you don't expect outstanding results. I'd rather always have a CPU that was more powerful than the GPU, if it was possible to do so with a high end GPU in place.

If there was a CPU with as much disparity as there is between the 4690k and the 750TI, using something like a 290x or GTX 970, that didn't cost 1000.00, and if there were games that actually showed any benefit to having a processor higher than current i5/i7 chips, I'd probably say bottleneck every system that way.


Plus, as mentioned, since it's temporary and since the build wasn't actually DESIGNED to be used this way on a permanent basis, it's fine. IF somebody had listed those components TOGETHER, as an intended build, we would quickly have steered them toward an i3 or lower end i5, or an FX chip.