Question i5-9400f 100C at 50% normal or not?

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Been having temps problems lately and asked the MS community support as well. Told me the temps are normal so I leave it at that. Lately, my PC has been having small stutters often, even doing mundane things so I went back there to try out some troubleshooting (driver, repair Win, etc.) But I couldn't shake the possibility that it was a hardware problem. I've read some threads here too that say 9400f should be able to reach 100C so it's nothing too groundbreaking, but at 50%? That's why I'm asking this question, and maybe try to fix it before it busted my CPU. Is this normal? Should I be worried? Is this really a hardware problem?

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This is not single die consumer hardware, so of course that's not the right method for THIS hardware. Not even remotely similar to most consumer configurations now or for the last fifteen years. Not comparable therefore not relevant.
to be honest i never did the heat sink replacement, i just went to youtube videos on my legion 5i and watch they put the pea method.. then i did it with the artic mx4,
Do you think is it worth in the second image to re-open again and put the heat sink in a different mode? i checked in Core2 and Core4 with HWmonitor the peak tems are 98-100 ºc but the average is around 75-78º.
 
Did you do this as an experiment, or were you even aware there are other patterns you could apply the paste?

There are other patterns that you can use. If you did a line across the length of the die, it'd spread out to cover it upon mounting the heat sink. See this picture for other patterns (from https://store.gamersnexus.net/products/modmat):
gn-modmat-gallery-05.jpg


So while yes, the "pea sized drop" advice isn't as useful anymore, the "you need to spread it across the die" still isn't necessary for most pastes.

Also the heat sink pressure on your particular hardware doesn't appear to be a lot anyway due to it being a bare die. I'm willing to bet the coverage would be greater if it were on a desktop part for the same application.
I did the pea method firstly becouse i checked on youtube videos that people with the same lenovo laptop legion 5pi than me were doing it, then i understood it wasn't the best method as the temperatures were worse than before.

Also i can't see what is my cpu in your image, maybe the "coofee lake"?

I agree with you, from my point of view the pressure screwing the screws were not too good, but i were afraid of damaging the cpu board so i just let it be as it is. Do you know how to put more pressure without damage?
 
I'm betting that the cooler either isn't installed correctly
God, I feel so stupid. One of the clips securing the cooler is a bit loose, idk how idk when. I decided to look more into the CPU cooler when I found out the plastic screw thingy wasn't turned in the right direction. After securing it back and pushing it and all the clips, just to be sure, I've only reached 95 at most, even when rendering. I know that it still isn't a great number at max temp, but I think this is a great improvement. I'll see if I can get it lower by cleaning the PC up and adding a new thermal paste later once it arrives.
 
I'll see if I can get it lower by cleaning the PC up and adding a new thermal paste later once it arrives.
When re-applying thermal paste, it's best to completely remove the old stuff. This can be annoying with the stock coolers, due to their tendency to come with an excessive amount. It usually comes off pretty easily with some rubbing alcohol (e.g. isopropyl, usually sold where you find first aid supplies) + paper towels.

In the past, I've found Arctic MX-4 to be pretty easy to work with and provide good longevity. They've now replaced it with MX-6, which I have yet to try.

Alternatively, CPU coolers typically include some thermal compound. If the cooler performs decently, then chances are the thermal compound they included is also pretty good. Here's a cooler that's probably overkill for your needs:

You can find more reviews here:

Remember to check that it's less than 105 mm in height. If using a top-down cooler, I would probably round that down to 100 mm or less, to give some clearance for airflow. A limit of 105 mm is going to rule out most tower-style coolers, though maybe there are some using 90 mm fans that could fit.
 
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It's a pretty well-reviewed case. So, if you have all of the fans installed how they're supposed to be, then it's probably not your case fans.


Weirdly, for all the Cougar cases pcpartpicker has, they don't seem to have the QBX.

According to this, it supports a CPU cooler up to 105 mm in height:

Here's a selection of compatible coolers in PCPartPicker's database:

I don't know enough to say you definitely need a new CPU cooler, but should you decide to go that route...

Thermalright
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3g7G3C/thermalright-axp90-x53-4258-cfm-cpu-cooler-axp90-x53

Should fit
 
That's a good reason. AND, all the reason you need to see why we say if you are not posting to help the OP, make your own thread or stay the hell out of the discussion. Too confusing when people are chiming in with their own "details" that aren't specifically addressing the problem the OP has, or trying to find answers to their own issues in somebody else's thread. Jesus. It's not that hard to understand. And I don't mean you man, I mean them.

Most of us don't have the time or inclination to go back through EACH entire thread just to make sure who we are talking to is the OP. God this kind of thing grates on my nerves.
 
When re-applying thermal paste, it's best to completely remove the old stuff. This can be annoying with the stock coolers, due to their tendency to come with an excessive amount. It usually comes off pretty easily with some rubbing alcohol (e.g. isopropyl, usually sold where you find first aid supplies) + paper towels.

In the past, I've found Arctic MX-4 to be pretty easy to work with and provide good longevity. They've now replaced it with MX-6, which I have yet to try.

Alternatively, CPU coolers typically include some thermal compound. If the cooler performs decently, then chances are the thermal compound they included is also pretty good. Here's a cooler that's probably overkill for your needs:

You can find more reviews here:

Remember to check that it's less than 105 mm in height. If using a top-down cooler, I would probably round that down to 100 mm or less, to give some clearance for airflow. A limit of 105 mm is going to rule out most tower-style coolers, though maybe there are some using 90 mm fans that could fit.
do you use a spatula to spread the heat sink (ie. mx4)?