Question i7-13700KF thermalthrottle

[alex.preda]

I have a brad new pc with the following components:

Case: AQIRYS Aquilla White ARGB
PSU: Corsair RM850
GPU: Gigabyte 4070ti
CPU: Intel i7-13700KF
CPU Cooler: AQYRIS Aquarius 360 AiO
Motherboard: Gibabyte B760M Gaming X ddr4
Memory: 32GB 3200 Mhz

The problem that i am facing is that when i tried to testbench the cpu in cinebench, the cpu instantly skyrocket to 100C and enters thermalthrottle. The only solution that i found usefull not actually burning my cpu was to drop the power down to 150W where i get max 90C.

I've also seen today when i wanted to update the BIOS of motherboard on compatibility with CPUs that the motherboard has only 125W compatible with Core i7-13700KF (https://www.gigabyte.com/ro/Motherboard/B760M-GAMING-X-DDR4-rev-10/support#support-cpu).
What does that mean and why my cpu is still able to jump over that value? What else should I do in this case? The motherboard is the problem of overheating or maybe to cooler is not good enough?

 

[bill001g]

So some people intentionally set the power limits to max and let the chip thermal throttle. Intel has multiple times said it is safe to run it at 100c constantly. I still am not so sure about that.

A 360 AIO should easily keep a 13700k under control. I have a similar setup that I manually set the p1/p2 to 290 watts which is above the 253 default max. Running things like cinnebench it will get in the mid to upper 90's on some cores but does not actually thermal throttle. It does sometimes it I set it to 300.

I would first carefully check all the setting your motherboard bios is doing with another tool like intels cpu tuner or thottlestop. Could be the bios has a setting different than the intel recommended defaults. Asus is one of the worst offenders of overclocking stuff as the default setting.

It almost has to be some issue with your cooler. It should have no issues keeping a 13700k under control with the default p1/p2 settings.
I would first see if you can tell if the pump is running. Sometimes you can hear or feel the vibrations. Sometimes you can tell that the tube going into the radiator feels slightly warmer than the one coming out. Make sure that the pump is connected to the correct motherboard. Most times you want the pump at 100% or some very high percentage constantly.

If you think the aio is good then try replacing the paste. Too much paste is better than not enough but don't make a mess. Ensure you follow the install instructions for you cooler for the proper method to tighten the screws. Uneven pressure can also cause overheating.

 

[ilukey77]

To start the mother board VRM's are not great for that CPU ..
My all intel build is using a b760i with 8+1+2 vrms but im only using the 14600kf ( yet to actually build and test )
If i was using a 13700k i would be looking at 12 phase or 14 phase of a z790 or z690 with a bios update for 13th gen
But i would double check your AIO mounting thermal paste ..
because even a semi decent 360mm should cool a 13700k well enough !!
Check to see if everything is spinning EG: AIO pump and rad fans

 

[Phaaze88]

I've also seen today when i wanted to update the BIOS of motherboard on compatibility with CPUs that the motherboard has only 125W compatible with Core i7-13700KF (https://www.gigabyte.com/ro/Motherboard/B760M-GAMING-X-DDR4-rev-10/support#support-cpu).

Doggone it, Gigabyte... They're only showing the PL1 limit on that list, which is usually ignored on Z-series motherboards.
They're not showing PL2, which is what everyone cares about, 'cause that's what Turbo Boost is backed by.
What that list basically says, "13700K running at base clock, all core load, is a-ok."


1)Case airflow*

Case: AQIRYS Aquilla White ARGB

Front panel probably isn't as porous, and thus, has less available surface area for air than it appears. It's got this stylish design embedded within - and let's face it, a step towards form is almost always a detriment in function - the perforations are large enough to allow dust through, warranting the dust filter, and then there's the fans...

2)Round frame fans are less effective than square at just about every application other than case fan exhaust.
They leave small gaps for air blow back, or recycle into the fans.
Here's a review to back this up: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/aqirys-aquarius-360-aio-cpu-liquid-cooler/


But, why are you running benchmarks on a PC you just got, instead of seeing if there are any issues in the actual applications you intend to run?

 

[TerryLaze]

But, why are you running benchmarks on a PC you just got, instead of seeing if there are any issues in the actual applications you intend to run?

Because it's a new PC and he doesn't have any experience on how the applications should be running?!

So some people intentionally set the power limits to max and let the chip thermal throttle. Intel has multiple times said it is safe to run it at 100c constantly. I still am not so sure about that.

Thermal trip is a good 30% higher so it should be very safe to be at 100.

Error and Thermal Protection Signals - 002 - ID:743844 | 13th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors

Thermal Trip: The processor protects itself from catastrophic overheating by use of an internal thermal sensor. This sensor is set well above the normal operating temperature to ensure that there are no false trips. The processor will stop all executions when the junction temperature exceeds approximately 130 °C. This is signaled to the system by the THRMTRIP# pin.

 

[thestryker]

Once you make sure the CPU is running at stock PL2 you can begin to troubleshoot. I think the AIO should be capable of the 253W stock PL2, but it might not be. The motherboard does have a very weak VRM implementation which could also be to blame here.

90C at 150W seems like an extremely high temperature for any AIO though so I'd make sure there's good mounting tension. You may need to check the thermal paste application as well.

 

[TheHerald]

I have a brad new pc with the following components:

Case: AQIRYS Aquilla White ARGB
PSU: Corsair RM850
GPU: Gigabyte 4070ti
CPU: Intel i7-13700KF
CPU Cooler: AQYRIS Aquarius 360 AiO
Motherboard: Gibabyte B760M Gaming X ddr4
Memory: 32GB 3200 Mhz

The problem that i am facing is that when i tried to testbench the cpu in cinebench, the cpu instantly skyrocket to 100C and enters thermalthrottle. The only solution that i found usefull not actually burning my cpu was to drop the power down to 150W where i get max 90C.

I've also seen today when i wanted to update the BIOS of motherboard on compatibility with CPUs that the motherboard has only 125W compatible with Core i7-13700KF (https://www.gigabyte.com/ro/Motherboard/B760M-GAMING-X-DDR4-rev-10/support#support-cpu).
What does that mean and why my cpu is still able to jump over that value? What else should I do in this case? The motherboard is the problem of overheating or maybe to cooler is not good enough?

If you are hitting 90c at 150w either your AIO is bad, damaged, or you have a severe contact issue and you need a contact frame. You should easily go beyond 240 watts before hitting 100c on a 13700k. I mean my u12a does 260 on the similar 12900k.