Question i7 14700k Temps too high

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Hello

I’ve noticed that my CPU temperature averages between 40–55°C when idle. While gaming (e.g., playing COD Black Ops 6), it typically averages around 70°C, but I occasionally see spikes up to 85°C. These spikes aren’t very frequent, but they do happen.

Are these temperatures too high? Could the spikes to 85°C damage my CPU in the long run?

I recently replaced the thermal paste, but the temps haven’t improved much. My cooler is only 3 years old—could it be failing? Or is it time to consider upgrading to a new AIO cooler?
 
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You forgot to mention the make and model of your motherboard. Please include the BIOS version you're on for said motherboard.

I recently replaced the thermal paste, but the temps haven’t improved much.
What did you replace the thermal paste with?

My cooler is only 3 years old—could it be failing?
Is the radiator free or dust/debris on it's fins?

How is the AIO mounted in your chassis?
 
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Motherboard: MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX Motherboard​

Bios: AMI BIOS
7E06vH7
2024-10-09

Thermalpaste: Arctic MX 6

Radiator is dust free

So basically the tubes are on the lower side of the case, so that the bubbles not getting trapped
 
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Took the radiator because it was on sale is it not enough?
I have a big fan at the back as exhaust.
Im using nzxt cam with a quiet profile.
So the temperatures are damaging then? And also my rtx 4070 is quiet big it's the msi one I don't think it would fit with a 360 aio
 
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In situations like this I usually recommend manually setting every fan you have at 100 percent maximum and seeing what kind of temps you get. If there's a big difference between those and your present temps then you could either increase your fan curves which is obviously free or add fans at minimal cost. A larger radiator will help a little but may not be worth the money.
 
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dwd999 said:
In situations like this I usually recommend manually setting every fan you have at 100 percent maximum and seeing what kind of temps you get. If there's a big difference between those and your present temps then you could either increase your fan curves which is obviously free or add fans at minimal cost. A larger radiator will help a little but may not be worth the money.
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Yeah I tried increasing the fan curves to 100 but it wasn't that much of a difference. Maybe I'll try to add some fans.
 
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uWebb429 said:
That is a normal operating temperature for an Intel CPU.
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So, this is not really accurate. It IS accurate for 12th, 13th, 14th and 15th Gen Intel, but it is not accurate across the board for "Intel CPUs". Prior to 12th Gen the maximum safe temperature you'd want to see was 85°C and if you were there very often, you were probably pushing the envelope. For the last four Gens however, anything up to 100°C is supposedly "safe". Personally, if you're seeing consistent temperatures under any load that isn't strictly a thermal stress test, I'd be at least a little bit concerned and I've talked with people who are far more knowledgeable in this area that most of us are, who wholeheartedly agree. While a certain thermal spec might be within "not cooking eggs on the sidewalk" temps, it doesn't mean you really want to live there consistently.

If you're consistently seeing temps that are 95-100°C, I'd recommend better cooling all around. For these gens though, if the max you're seeing under a full load is 85°C, then you're probably ok.
 
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At idle I am between 25-40 C. At this time (Winter in Maryland) it is a stable 27 C with an air temp of 22 C. During applications or gaming (Ultra settings WoWarcraft) I can get to 60 C but not for long. If I run the XTU bench it will have a couple spikes to 85 C (year round). My fans are set to max out at 65 C and I cant recall ever getting past that during regular use.

On that, I think you are a bit warm starting at idle. What are your fan RPMs?
At 65C I get:
CPU Cooler fans: 1400 (120mm), 1400 (120mm)
Intake fans: 6600 (40mm), 6600 (40mm), 1700 (120mm)
Exhaust: 1600 (120mm)
 
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Darkbreeze said:
this is not really accurate
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Intel started setting the PROCHOT ( processor hot) temperature to 100°C when the 1st Gen Core i CPUs were introduced in 2008. There were a few early Xeon processors which were set a little higher to 101° or 102°C. Intel bumped the throttling temperature of the 3rd Gen up to 105°C. The vast majority of Intel's 4th Gen to 14th Gen processors all use the exact same 100°C thermal throttling temperature. Some of the new Core Ultra desktop processors like the 265K and 285K have increased the throttling temperature back up to 105°C, same as the 3rd Gen desktop processors.

The 14700K is set to 100°C.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-33m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz/specifications.html

Intel says that once a CPU reaches the PROCHOT processor hot temperature, it has reached "its maximum safe operating temperature". Thermal throttling kicks in at this point and rapidly adjusts the speed of the CPU hundreds of times per second to always maintain the CPU at a safe temperature. If something crazy happens like the heatsink falls off, the CPU will trigger the THERMTRIP signal which will almost instantly shut the CPU down. There is no need for end users to worry if their CPU is at a safe temperature or not. Intel CPUs are well protected from any thermal related damage.

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should I buy a 360 AIO
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Save your money. Your temperatures are well within spec. Intel CPUs perform exactly the same at 90°C, 80°C or 70°C.

Intel's 13th and 14th Gen chip stability issues were caused by high voltage, not high temperatures. Intel has extended the warranty of your processor from 3 to 5 years.

https://community.intel.com/t5/Proc...-Intel-Core-13th-14th-Gen-Desktop/m-p/1627448

The latest microcode released by Intel last year was designed to fix the high voltage issue. Use HWiNFO to check if your BIOS is using microcode version 0x12B. The latest BIOS version available for some MSI motherboards may not include the latest Intel microcode. Making sure that your computer is using microcode 0x12B is far more important than the temperature of your CPU.

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personally i would be starting at the 360mm on a 14700k or a big boy dual tower air cooler ..

280mm are so so for the temps of a 14700..

I run a noctua NH U12s on my 14600kf and that does fine in most cases and the NH U 12s is close to D15 level of performance ..

But on the 14700k yeah i would go 360mm or at the very least try a better AIO something like a arctic freezer 3 !!
 
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@uWebb429

ok thanks, I have the latest microcode version so I guess I should be fine on that end.

@ilukey77

Ok, hmm I will think about it. But I am not sure yet, because uWebb429 is saying it should be fine. I dont know if I really should invest that money or if I will be fine

@Darkbreeze

Ok so whats your take on my situation? Should I be okay or should I consider buying a new 360 AIO?
 
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What are you doing when you see "spikes up to 85°C?

Where is your AIO currently mounted? Pics of the inside of your case are always helpful. It is fairly common here to find somewhat less than obvious (To those with a bit less experience) problems that might otherwise have gone unmentioned and unresolved by actually seeing how fans and coolers are oriented.

How many case fans? Where are they mounted and in what orientation, intake or exhaust, for each of them?

What is the average ambient temperature in the room where your system lives?

Is NZXT CAM the only software you've used to monitor CPU temps? I'd recommend NOT using it, for anything, unless you absolutely have to and in my experience there aren't many situations where that's the case. I'd recommend you download HWinfo, install, run and choose "sensors only", then recheck core temperatures.

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