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If you see it stress temps up to or past 100c. Then stop the test kinda think if your running a aio I almost think your fans aren't cooling properly.
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yeah its so weird. normally the temps are fine. like i said games 60-70s. and in idle 30-40. but theres those spikes out of the sudden up to 85 when loading the game for example in the menu. no idea why. so if the fans would cool properly, wouldnt the temps be too high all the time?
and regarding the stresstest, so i guess even at 90 i should stop the test.
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90s technically fine. 100 is a safe point for your motherboard to step in and safeguard itself from the cpu from reaching 110-120c which will burn circuits etc. I believe another guy said this on the first page. And intel says on the website 120c is the max for their cpus. Personally if it were my pc id just undervolt as low as possible see what the temps are aswell as max frequency id get then make adjustments to what i like.. remember, as i said before 14th gen cpus are just 13th gen cpus Over clocked by increasing the voltage. They aren't anything special or amazing from 13th gens
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yeah i need to make the stresstest. then i think about whether i want to undervolt it myself ( but i heard it can go as far as the pc not starting anymore, and ive never seen a guide specificially for my motherboard, so i dont know anything about settings) or go to a pc specialist. i think id rather go to one. do you think you still need to be concerned that they spy on stuff? I guess I should just reset Windows and then give it to a Specialist right?
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Intel CPUs are designed to start thermal throttling at 100C. This happens automatically. The CPU slows down as much as necessary so it does not exceed 100C so it is always safe. If slowing down to as low as 800 MHz does not solve the problem, the CPU will do a thermal shut down at approximately 125C. Intel CPUs are very well protected. Intel does not expect their customers to worry themselves sick while trying to play a game.
This is mostly true except the 14700K has 50% more E cores (12 vs 8) compared to a 13700K. It likely started out as a 14900K. When Intel finds some defective E cores they can easily disable them and sell it as a lower model. This is how Intel maximizes their yield. Default voltage might be on the hide side for the 14700K so no surprise that it runs hot.
The CPU manages itself and decides whether it should thermal throttle or not.
If you can find that information again can you post a link to it. 100C is the maximum safe operating temperature for most Intel CPUs.
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Yeah that's what I said in a previous message lol 120 is the absolute max before damage starts.
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If heat and power consumption bug you, you shouldn't be overclocking. This includes enabling XMP.
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In general, CPU temperatures ranging from 80 to 95 degrees Celsius are considered normal. However, if you find the temperature a bit high, consider making some adjustments to lower it:
1. **Improve the Cooling System:** Check if your water cooling system is functioning properly, whether thermal paste needs replacement, or cleaning dust from fans and heat sinks can help enhance cooling efficiency.
2. **Check Case Ventilation:** Ensure that your computer case has adequate ventilation space, and avoid clutter that may obstruct airflow.
3. **Overclocking Issues:** If your CPU is overclocked, increased temperatures are a common occurrence. To address this, consider disabling overclocking or reducing the frequency to minimize heat generation.
4. **Check Background Processes in Task Manager:** Examine the Task Manager to identify and terminate any unnecessary background tasks consuming memory, as they may contribute to CPU overheating.
5. **Insufficient Thermal Paste:** If the thermal paste has dried up or become ineffective over time, heat may not be adequately conducted to the heatsink, leading to high core temperatures and triggering alarms. In such cases, replenish the thermal paste, ensuring even application, and reinstall the heatsink.
Remember that maintaining optimal CPU temperatures is crucial for system performance and longevity. If the issue persists or worsens, seeking professional assistance may be necessary.https://gpu-top.top
1. **Improve the Cooling System:** Check if your water cooling system is functioning properly, whether thermal paste needs replacement, or cleaning dust from fans and heat sinks can help enhance cooling efficiency.
2. **Check Case Ventilation:** Ensure that your computer case has adequate ventilation space, and avoid clutter that may obstruct airflow.
3. **Overclocking Issues:** If your CPU is overclocked, increased temperatures are a common occurrence. To address this, consider disabling overclocking or reducing the frequency to minimize heat generation.
4. **Check Background Processes in Task Manager:** Examine the Task Manager to identify and terminate any unnecessary background tasks consuming memory, as they may contribute to CPU overheating.
5. **Insufficient Thermal Paste:** If the thermal paste has dried up or become ineffective over time, heat may not be adequately conducted to the heatsink, leading to high core temperatures and triggering alarms. In such cases, replenish the thermal paste, ensuring even application, and reinstall the heatsink.
Remember that maintaining optimal CPU temperatures is crucial for system performance and longevity. If the issue persists or worsens, seeking professional assistance may be necessary.https://gpu-top.top
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yeah checked all those points and theyre all good. Im just afraid of those spikes to 85-91.
Most of the time it spikes to 70 and stays at 60-65 while gaming now. But its basically fluctuating every second.
And i Noticed that theres a bit of stuttering in games going on now. can that be related to the temps?
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CPUs are tiny with huge amounts of energy constantly being switched on and off to different cores within the CPU package. It is normal for individual core temperatures to rapidly change.
The CPU is not throttling so it should not be causing any stuttering. Most stuttering is GPU related. It is more likely to be a driver issue. Hopefully with enough updates things will improve. GPU hardware seems to progress faster than new drivers can be developed and debugged.
Have you tried running your games with the E cores disabled in the BIOS? Some games might run better if they are only allowed to run on the P cores.
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nope ok thanks thats a good tip. ill try that out. is there a guide somewhere or is it pretty easy?
also i have those weird mosaic pattern thing going on on my monitor, i thought my gpu was dying, but many people say its driver related. so maybe its the driver also with the stuttering
You are lucky to have the temps you have with a 280 AIO, frankly, especially with defaults on many mainboards allowing some pretty high boost durations even after the normal/stock 90-120 sec of high power, which is supposed to drop down to 120-140 watts from that point, vice sustaining 230+ watts forever. (You can adjust all of that within XTU!)
I you want lower temps, reduce the max clocks across all cores within Intel's XTU by 100 MHz increments until you are satisfied with max temps noticed in gaming; that last 200-300 MHz on all P-Cores cost some serious heat and power consumption. You can likely experiment with tweaking down core voltage by .05 here and there within the XTU as well...
I you want lower temps, reduce the max clocks across all cores within Intel's XTU by 100 MHz increments until you are satisfied with max temps noticed in gaming; that last 200-300 MHz on all P-Cores cost some serious heat and power consumption. You can likely experiment with tweaking down core voltage by .05 here and there within the XTU as well...
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So now after a while of Testing, it fluctuates between 60-70 in most games and peaks at 85.
So I was thinking why not let it be as is as many of you told me.
Would I be fine if it max peaked to say 85 Degrees Celsius, or would that be too much? Id just like to game and dont care about the temps anymore to be honest
So I was thinking why not let it be as is as many of you told me.
Would I be fine if it max peaked to say 85 Degrees Celsius, or would that be too much? Id just like to game and dont care about the temps anymore to be honest
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ok first of thats not normal behaviour some games will push a game to quite hard on cpu but it shouldnt be having spikes that jump that high.
the issue with lga 1700 which is that the holding design on the chip to the board is absolutely gutter trash. it actually bends the cpu unevenly which means the actual cooler isnt making proper contact with the cpu plate
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalrig...prefix=thermal+right+contact+fr,aps,76&sr=8-4
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So are those Spikes because of the bending of the cpu or could it be a faulty cpu?
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the bending is putting pressure on the cpu unheavenly so your coolers contact plate isnt making a good contact
the cpu is fine its the holding system intel uses which is hot garbage thats why i linked the fix for this
the contact frame linked solves this issue making the cpu flush with the socket more uniform and applys the cpu pressure evenly which will allow the cooler to have a much better flat surface to cool on. in short your cooler could only be contacting half the die because of the bending issue.
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yep i recomend you clean the cpu with isopropyl alcohol with a cotton swab before you remove it and start installing the bracket.
( do this first though make sure pc is turned off and unplugged from wall socket and hold the power button for several seconds pc will spring to life temporary this is to make sure your pc has no extra power running threw it)
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it can if it spikes higher then that and from what I can tell your cooler isn't doing its job properly if the spikes are that wild. other things you'll notice is game lagging and instability. just because a cpu says it can stand 100 degrees doesn't mean you should run it at that.
the hotter a cpu gets the more it will degrade in performance and will make overclocks unstable or unusable.
im pretty sure you can get that cpu stable at a max swing at 75c also recomend spreading the paste when you reapply after cleaning do not do a dot method.
cpus will start to throttle back around 82-90c or not maintain high clock speeds
ARCTIC MX-6 is the paste ive used
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What? No:
SteveBeast, please enjoy your games; you've been making a mountain out of a molehill.
Those are virtually harmless. The cpu thermal trips at 130C.
SteveBeast, please enjoy your games; you've been making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Yeah I'm just confused because beyond logic said it could damage the cpu if it Spikes higher. And I once saw a Spike to 91. I mean it was only once but I'm worried now. I just hope that the bracket he recommended me will solve that issue. And he also said those high Spikes were not normal, so I just don't want to damage the cpu because as you know it's not the cheapest one 😁
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Temperature spikes are NOTHING to these cpus. Constants are a greater issue.
Take that cpu, and set it up so that it runs around 100C constantly for 8 hours a day, for an entire month... THEN come back here about damage.
There's no issue to solve; beyondlogic succeeded in planting unnecessary doubts.
Temperature spikes are going to vary. There are multiple reasons for it, be it:
-silicon lottery; expect your 14700K's cores to be better and worse than others.
-different, or differences in yours and others' motherboard settings(Vcore, load line, OC may/may not be applied).
-software you're running on your PC, compared to others.
-the cpu cooler. Some do well with Intel's dies that are focused in the centrally, but are lacking on AMD's offset dies. The opposite is also true. Some coolers can do both well. [Unfortunately, this kind of testing isn't done by many.]
-when AVX instructions kick in within the game code. These have higher voltage and power demands of the cpu, and could be responsible for some of the spikes.
-power plans
All that stuff complicates things, and I likely still left some factors out.
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