I7 4770k - 4k gaming

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Hello guys, I know my GPU matters the most for this, I havent upgraded my CPU because I feel like the 8700k wasnt enough for me to jump to. Now its the 9900k or 9700k models out that look aluring but price tags are making me want to wait for ryzens new 7nm cpus. Advice from our CPU gurus? Should I just watercool my CPU and let it ride out another year? Im getting good fps with most titles (80+) and typically mess with games that are more gpu intensive but I would like to stream again and Im unsure the workload would be good with 4k and streaming.

Thank you all for your valuable time.
 
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Before you upgrade consider this. The i7 9700K is only 8 cores with no hyperthreading. The 8700K has 6 cores with Hyperthreading. And Hyperthreading usually gives a 30% boost in multithreaded performance. So 6+30%=7.8. So the 8700K is essentially the same thing as an 8 core CPU with no hyperthreading. Sure you might be able to get 5.2GHz a bit easier on the 9700K but I would just go with whichever is cheapest because neither offers a significant advantage over the other.

Personally I wouldn't consider 9th gen at all unless going with the Core i5 9600K. The reason is because the 9700K is a very small upgrade not even worth considering over the 8700K. And the 9900K is so expensive it's not worth it. I wouldn't go with AMD right now...
Pretty much everything I've heard about Ryzen states they're better at streaming than Intel. If you're considering that route and your current system can handle titles at 80fps, I'd say just stick with what you have for now and save the money. In all honesty, if I didn't build a whole new system last year (mini-itx) I'd still be using my 3770k because the i7 is a great processor. I know have a 7700k and I think it's only a marginal improvement over the 3770.

But I will say, I'm not a streamer (never understood the popularity of it) so I can't comment on how well your 4770 would handle it. If I had to speculate, I'd say it will do just fine. Perhaps maybe not at 4k. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nvidia integrate twitch streaming or something into their cards?
 
Newer Intel chips have a hardware codec conversion I believe. The name is escaping me at the moment. AMD showed that their extra threads did a better job through brute force without effecting gameplay.

I would probably still buy an i7-8700k over the newer chips from what I have learned. The cost is too high for the value on the others. The solder sounds good, but it looks like the overall effect was for little gain. They made the chip itself a lot thicker, presumably to help with surviving stresses caused by dissimilar metals being in direct contact.

Ryzen '3' should be sometime in late 2019. Intel might get back in the game by then too and have their process node shrink ready as well. They had basically better.

I found my i7-4770k upgrade to i7-7700k to only amount to about 20% raw gain in CPU performance. Doesn't matter all that much at 4K.

You can just try streaming now and see how it goes.
 
Before you upgrade consider this. The i7 9700K is only 8 cores with no hyperthreading. The 8700K has 6 cores with Hyperthreading. And Hyperthreading usually gives a 30% boost in multithreaded performance. So 6+30%=7.8. So the 8700K is essentially the same thing as an 8 core CPU with no hyperthreading. Sure you might be able to get 5.2GHz a bit easier on the 9700K but I would just go with whichever is cheapest because neither offers a significant advantage over the other.

Personally I wouldn't consider 9th gen at all unless going with the Core i5 9600K. The reason is because the 9700K is a very small upgrade not even worth considering over the 8700K. And the 9900K is so expensive it's not worth it. I wouldn't go with AMD right now either because we're late in the year and Zen 2 is coming early next year. It's supposed to be a very good upgrade.

I would wait with the 4770K until Zen 2. If you must stream you can do it with the GPU. Yes quality will take a little hit but it will run so much better than on the CPU. In fact if you have an Nvidia GPU you can stream right to twitch from the geforce experience app.
 
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