i7 4940k vs i7 5930k Future proofing options

[TheGleaner]

So far I have heard that the LGA1150 is dead, but the LGA2011 socket isnt. Im wondering for upgrade-ability and still have good performance which one should i get?

Also Can you stably overclock the 5930k to 4.4 or wheres the limit, or what clock speed would match the other for things like gaming

 

[martinch]

So far I have heard that the LGA1150 is dead, but the LGA2011 socket isnt.

LGA1150 (Haswell & Broadwell) has been replaced with LGA1151 (Skylake & Cannonlake). LGA2011-v3 is supposed to take Broadwell-E (IIRC), but I doubt it'll be receiving any more chips.

Im wondering for upgrade-ability and still have good performance which one should i get?

Honestly, all have good functionality. It depends what you're doing, but unless you're doing something heavily multi-threaded, or need lots of RAM, PCI-E devices, or GPUs, Haswell-E seems overkill.

Also Can you stably overclock the 5930k to 4.4 or wheres the limit, or what clock speed would match the other for things like gaming

ASUS found most Haswell-E chips would go to at least 4.0, with a fall-off thereafter.

 

[TheGleaner]

What chipsets does it use and what is the sockets full name or is it just LGA 2011 v3?

 

[synphul]

I doubt you'll see any new chips for either one. It's more a matter of buying a motherboard and cpu that you plan to use unless a pentium g3258/i3 with plans to upgrade to an i5/i7. Futureproofing is a myth.

For instance, lga1150. It supports haswell, haswell refresh, devil's canyon and broadwell. Then you have to move to a new socket. If you have a haswell i5/i7, there's no point in 'upgrading' to a haswell refresh/devil's canyon or to broadwell. There's no point in upgrading to skylake from one of those cpu's and it's on the next socket.

People with sandy bridge on lga1155 didn't bother upgrading to ivy bridge, haswell, haswell refresh, devil's canyon, broadwell - and are just now considering skylake. They skipped not only the next cpu for 1155, they skipped the entire lga1150 socket and all of its cpu's and moved to skylake (lga 1151). There's just no need to upgrade a cpu every year or two if you're looking at i5 or i7. They tend to remain highly competitive for 4-5yrs.

 

[Guest]

Unless you plan on building a 3+ GPU setup, X99 is not worth it, unless:

1- You've got no budget constraint(s); X99 chips cost more, DDR4 mem costs have come down but not all, X99 boards can be found for reasonable prices, unless going for the performance end
2- You do photo/vid editing/production;X99 superior to 1150 offerings across the board
3- X99 CPUs can be OC'd well with the right cooling setup(s)... BUT, do require a much larger OC to get that 4GHz+ barrier crossed if you're looking to OC
4- 1150 (4790K) can outperform X99 chips in single-core applications; subjective to the app/game being played/utilized

Either chipset will suffice for the next 3-5 years, no problem... Future proofing, is like "keeping up with the Jones's"... in otherwords, you'll always be digging in your wallet.

 

[bystander]

Future in the way of picking a platform you can upgrade with is just not worth it. Your CPU will last a long time before you upgrade, and when you do, it will be on a new platform.

However, choosing a 6 core processor may help your future use as more and more programs as well as games are starting to take advantage of them, but that is no guaranty either. That's where the guess work comes in.
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0rsT0hauo

 

[gerhardb]

I picked up a Asrock X99 motherboard. Good value, and solid performer.

- i7-5930k
- 64GB of DDR4
- GTX 980 Ti Xtreme card (had been using the SLI 780 GTX cards until today, in fact)
- 2 x 1TB 840 EVOs (waiting for the 1TB MLC M2 PCIe cards to come out)
- 2 x 30 inch screens (MAC 30 and Dell 30 panels)

This systems is two things: A gamer, and a VMware Workstation host

Similar to video editing, you need as many threads as possible for virtualization.

This is not a cheap setup, and it would be much more cost effective to get an LGA1151 or LGA1150 system.

I also have the prior version:

- Asus Rampage IV Black (probably the best motherboard I've even owned)
- i7-4930k
- 64GB RAM
- 780GTX SLI'ed cards
- 1TB EVO drive

There is little discernible difference between the two systems. The i7-4930k is a Hackintosh for video editing, and probably needs a 980 Ti as well to be super effective. ...but it's fast.

(My 4 year old came into the office and started pressing the power button on the i7-4930k and blew the motherboard. I purchased the x99 as a replacement, and kept the OS without issue. I couldn't handle having a CPU and RAM laying around, so I got the Asus ROG IV Black because it's one of the only original LGA2011 motherboards still available.)

If you are not doing heavy video editing or virtualization, get a 4 core system with a really great video card and an M2 PCIe slot / thunderbolt / USB 3.1. You'll been fine going forward and can spend the money on something you want in the future.

 

[Gamer1985]

The new Broadwell E chips will be released for the x99/2011-v3 platform in Q2 of 2016. Not sure why the above posters said no chips will be made for it. 1151 and 2011-V3 are where the upcoming chips will be applied too. Broadwell E is the high end enthusiast chipset and 1151 is the new consumer end. Both are good ways forward.

 

[bystander]

The new Broadwell E chips will be released for the x99/2011-v3 platform in Q2 of 2016. Not sure why the above posters said no chips will be made for it. 1151 and 2011-V3 are where the upcoming chips will be applied too. Broadwell E is the high end enthusiast chipset and 1151 is the new consumer end. Both are good ways forward.

I believe only 1 person said there wouldn't be another chip for it, for most of us, we said that by the time you do upgrade, you will be starting over from scratch anyway, as you'll likely be 2-3 generations beyond what your current motherboard supports.

If you have a Haswell-E now, getting a Broadwell-E is not enough of a bump to be worth an upgrade.

 

[Gamer1985]

Sorry Martinch and Synphul both said no new chips would be made, just for the record. I just wanted to chime in and give the OP accurate info, like the rest of you. Agree with you on the upgrade aspect, if you already have a 5820k or 5930k or 5960x there is not much reason to upgrade.

 

[bystander]

Sorry Martinch and Synphul both said no new chips would be made, just for the record. I just wanted to chime in and give the OP accurate info, like the rest of you. Agree with you on the upgrade aspect, if you already have a 5820k or 5930k or 5960x there is not much reason to upgrade.

Gotcha, but for the record, Martinch did say Broadwell-E will use it. He said he doubts anything after that will.

 

[Gamer1985]

Thanks for the clarification!