Question i7-8700 non-k temps with tower cooler.

[martinezkier.dacoville]

Good day,
I recently swapped my i5-8600 for an i7-8700 and I am getting a bit high temps around 80-90+C during gaming especially on cpu intensive ones. Is this normal for the CPU? it goes 90 then throttles down. I am using a 5 heat pipe 120mm CPU Cooler tower, Thermalright Assassin king 120 its a bit thick. Would a push-pull configuration help it maintain lower temps? Currently its on push config.
My case is has a 200mm intake at the front and a 120mm exhaust at the rear only. Thank you.

 

[punkncat]

I would make assumptions that your paste application was replaced and is proper. As long as the system isn't surpassing 90 and still is performing as expected, I don't think that outside design parameters...if loud.
I notice the cooler has height, but isn't very thick. I think a Scythe Mugen 5 would be a good budget option (if they are still actually inexpensive). The Hyper 212 may have more surface area as well.

 

[martinezkier.dacoville]

I would make assumptions that your paste application was replaced and is proper. As long as the system isn't surpassing 90 and still is performing as expected, I don't think that outside design parameters...if loud.
I notice the cooler has height, but isn't very thick. I think a Scythe Mugen 5 would be a good budget option (if they are still actually inexpensive). The Hyper 212 may have more surface area as well.

The current paste I am using is on the cheaper side a Cooler Master V1, i will try a premium one, and gonna replace the Thermalright fan with a Static pressure one I have not been using because of noise and put it on 100%, Replace the exaust with a high CFM one. I cant put fans above the case cause the CPU tower cooler dont have enough space above for fans. Using an MATX Cube type of case (Tecware Quad TG).

I also have an old Gammaxx 400 though similar to a Hyper 212.

the CPU Spikes to 90+ during lunch and afternoon when the sun is up. But goes down when the Thermalright fans kick in at 100%.

 

[punkncat]

Something just to try. Drop the side panel and see what temps are with the case open.

What is ambient where you are located?

 

[Karadjgne]

The Thermalrite is roughly the same as the hyper212, if not a bit better.

It's an 8700. It can hit @ 130w flat out, which while still under the @ 150w of the Assassin/Hyper212, it's getting very close to saturation. Temp scales aren't linear, they are logarithmic. You'll generally see @ 1w per 1/3° climb, roughly, then at @ 70ish% they'll make a sharp curve upwards, where 1w =1° then 2° then upto 5°C (ish).

Takes quite a bit of wattage to get a cpu to @ 65° but the climb from @ 80° to 100° only takes a few watts.

That's why it's generally recommended to use a cooler at least 1.5x the power consumption of the cpu.

 

[martinezkier.dacoville]

Something just to try. Drop the side panel and see what temps are with the case open.

What is ambient where you are located?

too much dust, ambient temps is around 28-30C and 32C on a hot day.

 

[martinezkier.dacoville]

The Thermalrite is roughly the same as the hyper212, if not a bit better.

It's an 8700. It can hit @ 130w flat out, which while still under the @ 150w of the Assassin/Hyper212, it's getting very close to saturation. Temp scales aren't linear, they are logarithmic. You'll generally see @ 1w per 1/3° climb, roughly, then at @ 70ish% they'll make a sharp curve upwards, where 1w =1° then 2° then upto 5°C (ish).

Takes quite a bit of wattage to get a cpu to @ 65° but the climb from @ 80° to 100° only takes a few watts.

That's why it's generally recommended to use a cooler at least 1.5x the power consumption of the cpu.

i like to use air coolers, but do you think a dual tower air cooler or is it AIO's then?

 

[Karadjgne]

You assume a sepetation. A dual tower or aio isn't any different because of what it is. There's many single towers that are better than some dual and a couple sizes of aios.

What matters is the ability and efficiency of the cooler itself. A car isn't faster just because it's Red. An excellent budget cooler is the Arctic esports Duo, single tower with @ 200w capability. Also the Scythe Mugen 5, Noctua U12A are single towers.

It's only when reaching into Big Air like the Noctua NH-D15/S that what you get is basically a Noctua NH-U12S x2 and are hitting in the 250-300w capability range.

A small dual tower like the Deepcool AK620 would also be a budget choice, hitting about the same ranges as the better single towers above.

Any cooler in the 180ish + range will be more than sufficient, and run really quiet as a result, with those coolers having silence oriented fans, like Arctic and Noctua and BeQuiet being more quiet when pushed.