IDE drive replacement for DOS

kiruna

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I am currently in the process of restoring an old 486 machine (http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3351534/advice-restoring-486-machine.html), and need to replace the 240MB IDE hdd it is equipped with. I am then going to install DOS on it.
What would be the best option for this purpose?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
the thing is its not just IDE, is like first generation IDE..
Installing dos is easy, :

Insert the first MS-DOS installation diskette into the computer and reboot it or turn it on. If you do not have the MS-DOS installation diskettes you cannot install MS-DOS. If the MS-DOS setup screen appears when the computer starts press the F3 key two or more times to exit from the setup.
Once at the A:\> MS-DOS prompt type fdisk and press enter.
In the fdisk screen delete any current partitions existing on the computer and then recreate the partitions. Additional information about fdisk, including an fdisk simulation can be found on our fdisk command page. Once a new partition has been created exit out of fdisk and get back to the A:\> prompt.
At the prompt type format and press enter. Once the hard drive has been formatted reboot the computer with the diskette still in the drive and once back at the setup screen run through the setup of MS-DOS on the computer.
 
Bear in mind that a machine that old may well not recognise a drive bigger than 528MB (or at least, it may not "see" any space beyond that unless you use third-party software like EZ-Drive) because of limitations in how the BIOS addresses devices. If the BIOS offers "LBA mode", you should be OK, possibly up to as much as 8GB (the next "barrier"). Also, versions of MS-DOS prior to v7 (which was the DOS component of Win95) didn't support FAT32 so, if you wanted optimum space-allocation efficiency, you had to stick to partition sizes less than 256MB (to get 4kB clusters on FAT16).

If you can't get hold of a suitable "spinning rust" drive (it'll be loud!) you might be able to find a 512MB CF card and use an adaptor - or even find a small "IDE flash drive" (i.e. an SSD in today's parlance) which were quite common in embedded applications some years back and came in relatively small capacities.

I think I've got a few sub-1GB IDE drives sitting around somewhere as spares for my Acorn Archimedes computers but whether any of them still work is another matter. They're all pretty noisy by today's standards - the whirr and clatter of the hard drive (along with the "grunting" of the floppy drive) was a normal part of the computing experience in those days. WD Caviar units were generally regarded as the best drives and, to my mind, had a rather nice (and very distinctive) sound too. I could never afford one in those days, unfortunately...

You mentioned in the other thread that the PC had a VLB SCSI controller - maybe an old SCSI drive might be a better idea as SCSI BIOSes were usually more flexible when it came to drive sizes. Beware that SCSI drives tended to be even louder, though - they were generally designed as "high performance" drives. (I've got a couple of 1GB 12-platter units which sound like airliners starting up when you turn them on - and generate almost as much heat!)
 
Thanks you

I think that for now I am just going to look for a decent IDE flash module, because the old hdds are actually pretty expensive on ebay, and I don't really trust the drive I already own because I know that it has been running A LOT for many years.

As for the SCSI drives, my bad, I got somewhat confused when I was writing about it, so there is actually no SCSI controller at all.

For the DOS installation, I do not own any DOS installation floppy disks (unless I manage to find some I am not aware of having still laying around).

My plan is to download a DOS image (http://www.allbootdisks.com/ <-- don't know if this site is anything good), and then use a floppy emulator (http://www.ipcas.com/products/usb-floppy-emulator-fdd-to-udd.html) for the installation itself.