If my info is correct..

[Pirox]

AMD will be marketing 3 different processors @ september and beyond:

1) A cut down k8 more like an athlon without 64-bit support but has the new platform enhancements(754-pin)/SSE2/Integrated..,maybe 1mb of cache; it will be marketted as "AXP"(single chan) good for upgrade to paris or victoria.

2) Paris or victoria...will support 64-bit and work on 754-pins; it will be marketted as "A64"(Single chan) good for upgrade to san diego or athens.

3) San diego or athens...will support 64-bit and work on 940/939-pins; it will be marketted as "A64 FX"(Dual chan.

Any suggestions?


---
If you go to work and your name is on the door, you're rich. If your name is on your desk, you're middle class. If your name is on your shirt, you're poor!

 

[Prof133]

2) Paris or victoria...will support 64-bit and work on 754-pins; it will be marketted as "A64"(Single chan) good for upgrade to san diego or athens.

<A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030821060723.html" target="_new">XBitLabs</A> has some info - some of it rumor - on Paris and Victoria:

- Socket 754.

- Based on the Athlon 64 architecture but will not be able to work in 64-bit mode.

- Marketed as Athlon XP.

- What will make them better than current Athlon XPs at the same speed is integrated single-channel PC3200 memory controller, SSE2 technology and improved architecture in general.

- Paris is expected to have 256KB of L2 cache. L2 cache size of Victoria is unknown.

- The chip codenamed Paris, when it moves to 90 nanometers will be codenamed Victoria.

- Paris will be available only in the second or the third quarter of 2004. Availability of Victoria is obviously after Paris but difficult to forecast.

<b><font color=blue>Oh, I can shed light on that ...</font color=blue></b>

 

[Pirox]

So which proc on the 754-pin platform supports 64-bit?

---
If you go to work and your name is on the door, you're rich. If your name is on your desk, you're middle class. If your name is on your shirt, you're poor!
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by pirox on 08/22/03 03:32 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[pitsi]

All processors in Athlon 64 family support x86-64. That's Opteron, Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX. Don't get all mixed up with Athlon XPs moving on to Socket 754. Also, do not try to understand what's going on with the cores and which will support what, because you will get a headache. I know I did! San Diego, Paris, Victoria ... and so on. I'm getting a bit tired of this honestly. What does it matter anyway? When they are released we will know for sure! For now, we shouldn't even care. What difference does it make if we know or not?

 

[slvr_phoenix]

Last I read (which is still all conjecture mind you since none of this is available hardware yet) socket 939 CPUs and socket 940 CPUs aren't even compatible with mobos of the other type. One pin difference, but no compatability. (At least not without an adapter, which you just <i>know</i> someone will make at some point in time if that turns out to be in fact true.)

You would think that at some point AMD would actually straighten out all of these rumors with actual facts because it's sounding like AMD is running around like a chicken with their head cut off.

Unless of course AMD actually <i>is</i> making this much of a mess of things, in which case providing truth to counter the rumors would only support them instead. **ROFL**

I sure hope that isn't the case though. It'd be nice if AMD finally got their head out of their arse and did things right for a change. It's been a few years now. You'd think that they'd do something right again <i>sometime</i> soon.

<pre><b><font color=red>*** BattleTech - The Crescent Hawks Inception ***</b>
Pilot twenty-ton behemoth robots to save your planet from a
Kuritian invasion force. Now available on the C=64!</font color=red></pre><p>