[SOLVED] I'm confused between these two Coolers for my i7 8700 pc.

[Kamal007v]

I have short listed Corsair Hydro H45 AIO and Cooler master Hyper H410R Air cooler because they kinda fall in my budget. I will be buying it Amazon India. I really wanna get the Hyper 212 but it's priced higher than usual here and i can't deal with the intel stock cooler going reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee in every single game. The reason i'm confused is i heard these entry level AIO's tend to fail. On the other side i'm not sure if the hyper 410r will be adequate for the i7. My ambient temp is around 30-32c. With intel stock cooler CPU idles at 43c but under load most recent games hit 85c easily and keeps climbing up. Gears 5 hit 95c in like 5 mins. Any thoughts on this is appreciated.


PC Specs :
CPU - i7 8700 (stock cooler)
GPU - ZOTAC RTX 2060 TWIN FAN
Motherboard - MSI Z-370 A-PRO
Monitor - ACER KG241QP 144Hz
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 8GB 3000MHz
PSU - Corsair VS550 (Yeah i feel bad too)
Cabinet - Corsair Carbide SPEC-01

 

[logainofhades]

What is your cooler budget?

 

[Kamal007v]

What is your cooler budget?

4000 INR.

 

[logainofhades]

According to PCPP, this cooler is compatible with your case.

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/product/vkkD4D/deepcool-cpu-cooler-frostwinv20

 

[geofelt]

I am not a fan of aio coolers unless you have restricted space.
Air is simpler and quieter as a rule.

But, of your two choices, I think the H45 would be better cooling than the hyper 410.
The reason is that the 120mm fans on the H45 will be quieter. The H410r has the same 92mm fan as the intel stock cooler. It will create noise as it spins up.

If you have other 120mm air coolers available, I would look at them.
Look for an air cooler with at least a 120mm fan like the scythe kotetsu.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1391-page1.html

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Either of those coolers will be better, but I would go for the H410r, or ideally, the Deepcool linked above.

I personally dont like 120mm aios. Partially due to the risks involved (the corsair should be reliable), but mostly because they perform like a cheap air cooler.

A friend of mine threw a H100i on his 8700 to fix the stock cooler noise and loves it.

 

[Kamal007v]

According to PCPP, this cooler is compatible with your case.

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/product/vkkD4D/deepcool-cpu-cooler-frostwinv20

Thanks i will consider that.

I am not a fan of aio coolers unless you have restricted space.
Air is simpler and quieter as a rule.

But, of your two choices, I think the H45 would be better cooling than the hyper 410.
The reason is that the 120mm fans on the H45 will be quieter. The H410r has the same 92mm fan as the intel stock cooler. It will create noise as it spins up.

If you have other 120mm air coolers available, I would look at them.
Look for an air cooler with at least a 120mm fan like the scythe kotetsu.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1391-page1.html

I was dumb enough to not notice the fan size of H410R. I found an antec 120mm i will keep looking thank you.

 

[Kamal007v]

Either of those coolers will be better, but I would go for the H410r, or ideally, the Deepcool linked above.

I personally dont like 120mm aios. Partially due to the risks involved (the corsair should be reliable), but mostly because they perform like a cheap air cooler.

A friend of mine threw a H100i on his 8700 to fix the stock cooler noise and loves it.

I'm leaning more towards the air coolers too i'm afraid the entry level aio will fail cause i keep coming across a lot of posts like that. I would love to get the H100i but my pocket says no lol. Thanks anyway.

 

[Karadjgne]

The pump used on the 120mm aios is the same pump used on the 240mm or 360mm, generally, so there's absolutely no evidence to support failure due to size of the rad.

99% of all aio failures are caused by the installer/owner/builder who just shove stuff around, pick up the rad by the hoses or other stupidity and put too much torque pressure on the rad/pump fittings. It's just easier to do that with a 120mm because it's far more 'hand sized' a rad, far less bulky and doesn't require 2 hands and some care to install.

I've been dealing with liquid cooling since many posters here were in diapers, and even before that with some, and not had a single aio that I've installed leak due to me. I've had one that split a hose (old Corsair corrugated plastic kind), but that's not on me. Almost all aios today use low evap rubber tubing, which is even better than old style tubing.

If it's made by man, it has a failure rate. Period. I've had a top-line Noctua heatsink with a busted/leaky heatpipe. I've had a top-line Phanteks with a warped base. I've changed out multiple motherboards destroyed by heavy aircoolers.

Both liquid and air have advantages and disadvantages. What works better for one person isn't necessarily what's better for another. Either system will do the job intended (within reason), the question being what works better for you in particular. Not what anybody else says you must or must not because......

I prefer aios. I prefer the software control that aircooling doesn't come with. I prefer the clean looks. I prefer a quieter cooling system over a similar aircooler noise (yes aios can very easily be far quieter than aircoolers). I prefer the cpu temps not bounce all over the place sitting idle and ramping up fan speeds.

But that's me.

 

[Kamal007v]

The pump used on the 120mm aios is the same pump used on the 240mm or 360mm, generally, so there's absolutely no evidence to support failure due to size of the rad.

99% of all aio failures are caused by the installer/owner/builder who just shove stuff around, pick up the rad by the hoses or other stupidity and put too much torque pressure on the rad/pump fittings. It's just easier to do that with a 120mm because it's far more 'hand sized' a rad, far less bulky and doesn't require 2 hands and some care to install.

I've been dealing with liquid cooling since many posters here were in diapers, and even before that with some, and not had a single aio that I've installed leak due to me. I've had one that split a hose (old Corsair corrugated plastic kind), but that's not on me. Almost all aios today use low evap rubber tubing, which is even better than old style tubing.

If it's made by man, it has a failure rate. Period. I've had a top-line Noctua heatsink with a busted/leaky heatpipe. I've had a top-line Phanteks with a warped base. I've changed out multiple motherboards destroyed by heavy aircoolers.

Both liquid and air have advantages and disadvantages. What works better for one person isn't necessarily what's better for another. Either system will do the job intended (within reason), the question being what works better for you in particular. Not what anybody else says you must or must not because......

I prefer aios. I prefer the software control that aircooling doesn't come with. I prefer the clean looks. I prefer a quieter cooling system over a similar aircooler noise (yes aios can very easily be far quieter than aircoolers). I prefer the cpu temps not bounce all over the place sitting idle and ramping up fan speeds.

But that's me.

I wouldn't think much if i lived in a country where support is not an issue. Corsair has no support here. My friend fried his corsair PSU like 4 days back he had to contact a dealer. They said his replacement is going to take more than 20 days to arrive at least he is close to a dealer i am not which is why i'm having second thoughts. These dealers do not honour the parts bought from e sellers like amazon.

 

[Karadjgne]

There's 2 kinds of warranty. Vendor and manufacturer. For the first 90 days - 1 year or so, that's on the vendor, whatever their rma policy is. After that, the balance is on the manufacturer. From the date of sale. If you buy from Amazon, you return to Amazon. If there's an issue and Amazon will not repair/replace a defect, you contact the manufacturer. But there has to be a defect, not an issue caused by you.

Corsair guarantees their aios won't fail or leak for the period of the warranty due to defects in manufacture. That's in writing. But you must attempt to go through vendor return policy first, if it applies. They will honor that warranty. That's not a debate. They'll also do so in a timely manner, even going so far as to arranging a local replacement. It's cheaper for them to do so.

That only applies to original owners, so ebay sales, second hand items etc are exempt from consideration. Unless otherwise stated. Some online stores are not authorized sellers/resellers, they buy bulk items and resell. They often have a no return/refund policy, and are not considered vendors, but original owners. Often you'll get items from them with the sku removed from the box. (They send that in for rebate, then sell the item at full price a month later).

This can apply to any pc component, but mostly coolers, psus and gpus.