im only getting 5878 on 3dmark05!

[apesoccer]

It's all good. I'm exausted right now, so i don't think that i'll do it tonight when i get off work, played bball until after midnight and got up at 6...bleh. I really like my 8hrs sleep...

 

[wakeboarder540]

ok, sorry if i sounded like a jerk too, i just thought you were talking to me like a was a noob or something.
anyways, what tests did you want me to run so you could compare to?

 

[sojrner]

we were talking about the diff between single and dual channel ram... what the perf. hit was with single and if you would notice it... I seem to remember that i did when i switched... he said he would run some tests to confirm/deny that claim. If you want to as well go for it. I just dont have time... I look forward to seeing what the result is.

 

[apesoccer]

Heya

I'm planning on running PCMark 05 and 3DMark 05. They both take around 20-30min. So i'll probably spend 2-3 hours friday making this happen. I'll test the hyperX and the ocz stuff. My patriot is in use in another computer right now unfortunately.

Base Settings:

3800+ X2 (@ stock 2.0ghz)
Asus A8N-SLI Premium v1009
-OCZ Platnium 3200 2x1024(2 3 2 8 @ 200fsb)
-HyperX 3200 2x512(2 3 3 8 @ 200fsb)
WD 60GB
SBA2

SC HyperX 1 module
Pic 3DMark 05 – 8772
Pic PCMark 05 – 4561
SC HyperX 2 module
3DMark 05 - no boot
PCMark 05 - no boot
DC HyperX 2 module
Pic 3DMark 05 – 8912
Pic PCMark 05 – 4609
SC OCZ 1 module
Pic 3DMark 05 – 8770
Pic PCMark 05 – 4559
SC OCZ 2 module
3DMark 05 - no boot
PCMark 05 - no boot
DC OCZ 2 module
Pic 3DMark 05 – 8928
Pic PCMark 05 – 4606


Excel Spreadsheet

 

[angry_ducky]

if you format your hard drive and reinstall windows, it'll be even better. i did that, and my score went from 1,300 to 2,200. both pathetic scores, but it's an improvement.

 

[quantumsheep]

i use 512mb of ram in my system (3.0 prescott) with an unlocked 6800le 256mb clocked @ GT speeds, and i get 5500marks, so maybe your ram isnt the problem here

 

[MasterLee]

512 of RAM ? C'mon, you're starving your system, my 754 weakling can do 6000 in '05.
Mmmm, wanna race computers for Pinks ?

 

[apesoccer]

Hmm...Did you read all the posts here? You ARE the weakest link...Good bye.

...that was kinda fun, please come again!

 

[MasterLee]

I don't think so.

 

[MasterLee]

I'm the weakest link ?
I didn't spend a bunch of money on something that benches like a PIII.
Don't get angry at me.

 

[scoobertscoobydoo]

3D mark 05 is a benchmark, it is not real life. ask yourself what you do, and then ask if your PC does it.....

 

[MasterLee]

So true.As of late I can't even get through '05 Mark with my CPU at 2675MHz + and my card at 455/1165, but it doesn't crash to desktop during F.E.A.R, HL2, HL2 Lost Coast, DOOM, or EA's Nascar SIM Racing. I load up the graphics as much as I can too, min res is 1280 x 1024.
If I'm cranked up and anything I play doesn't lock up or crash, then it really doesn't matter if I can get through the benchmark, I can't shoot it or drive it so screw it.

 

[scoobertscoobydoo]

at 1280 x 1024 you dont need much power, its not hard to pull 30 frames at that rez. crank it up to 1600X1200 and watch the laggggggggg

 

[malphadour]

(not direct reply to scooby, but to all)

It staggers me how many people replied to this question and talked absolute crap about it being ram, how dual channel ram would give a mega boost, and then moved onto it being the hard drive. I can't believe it took a 8 posts before somebody actually talked sense (thankyou ape) and got onto the subject of (shock horror) graphics card drivers for what was fundementally a graphics issue.

Firstly I would like to state that apes comments of approx 3-5% performance increase with dual channel over single are absolutely correct. I have run several systems with both setups and the differences are negligable, and as ape states this has been born out in numerous reviews by tech sites. A few select apps have been shown to gain about 10% from dual channel but these are very much the exception.

Also, what the hell are you guys doing going on about 512mb bottlenecking his system?? Have you got any idea at all how a computer or Windows XP works????!!!!!!! In the real world 512mb of ram bottlenecks absolutely nothing except large ram intensive apps such as video editing, graphics/3D editing, photo editing, a select few games such as Battelfield 2 and COD2 and absolutely NO benchmark programs ever made. 3Dmark06 runs exactly the same on 512mb as it does on 1gb, so 05 will certainly not require any more. Whislt it is all great and fine for enthusiasts to have gigs of ram, you don't actually need it unless except for high mem usage apps, or to get an extra couple of percent difference in XP performance because that is all it does. Not 20% as suggested by many here, but about 2%, and that is a fact again shown by numerous tech sites.

Maybe before some of you guys post next time you should first get to know what the hell you are talking about and stop giving extremely poor, and in this case utterly wrong advice. I cant believe that out of 16 people only 3 have talked any sense.

 

[MasterLee]

Some I play at 1600 x 1200, some I don't
I get all I can outta what I got, I play at the res that plays best, simple.

 

[ChipDeath]

It staggers me how many people replied to this question and talked absolute crap about it being ram

Very true. It simply won't make a great deal of difference. I would have to point out that dual channel makes quite a large difference on the P4, since it likes bandwidth. The Athlon/A64 isn't bandwidth-limited really, so DC makes very little difference. I also agree he quite blatantly has a problem with either his graphics card itself, or the drivers.

But...

In the real world 512mb of ram bottlenecks absolutely nothing except large ram intensive apps such as video editing, graphics/3D editing, photo editing, a select few games such as Battelfield 2 and COD2

If you've only ever lived with 512Mb of RAM this might be the case, but as a man who not too long ago had to live with 512Mb instead of 1Gb (512Mb had to be RMA'd), I can tell you it makes a massive difference in most games. Need for speed, COD2, HL2.... basically every game I play. It is hugely impractical to have a modern gaming rig (which this obviously is, or he'd not have a 7800) with less than 1Gb of RAM. 512Mb is a big limitation. When games start stuttering because they're paging stuff in and out of RAM, it destroys all immersion. BF2 is so bad as to be completely unplayable with 512Mb, and most others are at best irritating.

And no, I don't have a lot of crap running in the background, before you ask.

Just thought I'd drop this in before someone sees your post and decides to build a gaming rig with 512Mb of RAM.....

 

[apesoccer]

Nah man i just wanted you to read that not only had the problem already been fixed, but that the problem was NOT the hd or the memory. If you had read the posts you would know that.

And i assume you're talking about someone elses benches, cuz I think i've got you beat on any bench. The benches i have listed above are not oc'd benches, those are my stock, that were created specifically for this thread, only in regards to sc/dc. Actually i take that back, you might be able to beat my lowest(best) 32m score. But i don't know...2.7ghz on a 400:333 ratio or 2.55 on 1:1 (with 2gb or 1gb...). 29min and 31 min respectively.

 

[sojrner]

btw, great work on that ape. Those numbers do well to show (relative) performance gains w/ single vs dual channel ram.

Obviously a gain but not enough to fix the problems that started this thread. That 5878 is from something else, perhaps the other issues pointed out here or something else entirely. Thanks alot!

 

[apesoccer]

Yea 3DMark only needs 512 to run smoothly. However i can't prove that it even needs that much (since i don't have 256 to test it with heh). However i think someone earlier in the thread said something about where some site tested with different sizes of ram, so we could probably back that up if we so chose.

But yea he's definately going to be held back in new games (with these exceptions: Mines, Asteroids, Internet Hearts) with only 512mb of ram. I've upgraded from 1gb to 2gb because of memory limitations in BF2 and Everquest 2. Both of which run smooth now. =)

 

[apesoccer]

it was screwing me over almost exactly 2000 points!!! I must have installed some drivers over top of some old ones... funny cause I don't remember downloading any drivers at all, just the evga one from the disk that came with my card

So that isn't as clear as i remembered it being. But yea he solved his problem. After uninstalling and reinstalling the graphics driver, his score went up about 2000pts. He sent me a PM when he got it fixed, that's why it seemed more clear to me lol.

 

[ivoryjohn]

I can't believe noone has asked what should have been the first question. Do you have your drivers setup for application control or did you override appilcation preference and set everything to MAX. That WILL cost you a couple thousand points.