[SOLVED] I'm planning on buying a new computer

[ShanksMyPants]

Hi. I'm looking to buy a new computer. Sadly I'm not very adept regarding parts and such. All I know that generally prebuilt computers are considered scams. So I was wondering where I could ask people that are not viable to scam me like store clerks. I searched into google and founds this website.

I have a budget of 2850 USD and it needs to be able to ship to Sweden.

My ideal is for the computer to be able to play at 240 FPS at most FPS shooters, Rainbow Six Siege, CSGO, Titanfall. I also play some RTS games like Starcraft 2. I also play Total Warhammer 2 from time to time. I have no idea how realistic this is. Please advise.

Thank you kindly for any help or tips.

Edit - I play with 16:9 aspect ratio and generally want my games to have medium-high graphics. 1920:1080

 

[Eximo]

More then enough, and right now, pre-builts are pretty much the only option for getting a graphics card in a reasonable time.

16:9 is not useful information. Need the screen resolution. 1920x1080, 2560x1440, 3840x2160 (4K) etc.


If you could pick out local stores that do this, that might be better.


Here is something to start with to get some ideas, looks like they ship internationally. Small form factor PC, and I added in the the wooden crate so it can make the trip better.

No idea what the shipping cost will be, you will have to field that yourself.

$2528

Case : ORIGIN Chronos with Mesh
Exterior Color : Black
Interior Lighting : No Lights
Current Special Offer : Free US Ground Shipping $50 value
Processors : Intel Core i5 10600K 6-Core 4.1GHz (4.8GHz TurboBoost)
Motherboard : ASRock Z590M-ITX/ax
Memory : 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 3000MHz (2x8GB)
System Cooling : Corsair H60i PRO XT
System Fans : ORIGIN PC Maximum Fan Kit
Graphics Cards : NVIDIA 8GB GeForce RTX 3070
Operating System : MS Windows 10 Home
Operating System Drive : 960GB Force MP510 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
RAID : No RAID
Power Supply : 750 Watt CORSAIR SFX Series
The ORIGIN Difference : The Best Gaming Experience Guaranteed
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process : ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
24/7 U.S Based Warranty : 1 Year Part Replacement with 45 Day Free Shipping
Free ORIGIN PC Gear : ORIGIN PC T-Shirt
Size : Medium
Free ORIGIN PC Gear : ORIGIN PC Mousepad

 

[ShanksMyPants]

More then enough, and right now, pre-builts are pretty much the only option for getting a graphics card in a reasonable time.

16:9 is not useful information. Need the screen resolution. 1920x1080, 2560x1440, 3840x2160 (4K) etc.


If you could pick out local stores that do this, that might be better.


Here is something to start with to get some ideas, looks like they ship internationally. Small form factor PC, and I added in the the wooden crate so it can make the trip better.

No idea what the shipping cost will be, you will have to field that yourself.

$2528

Case : ORIGIN Chronos with Mesh
Exterior Color : Black
Interior Lighting : No Lights
Current Special Offer : Free US Ground Shipping $50 value
Processors : Intel Core i5 10600K 6-Core 4.1GHz (4.8GHz TurboBoost)
Motherboard : ASRock Z590M-ITX/ax
Memory : 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 3000MHz (2x8GB)
System Cooling : Corsair H60i PRO XT
System Fans : ORIGIN PC Maximum Fan Kit
Graphics Cards : NVIDIA 8GB GeForce RTX 3070
Operating System : MS Windows 10 Home
Operating System Drive : 960GB Force MP510 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
RAID : No RAID
Power Supply : 750 Watt CORSAIR SFX Series
The ORIGIN Difference : The Best Gaming Experience Guaranteed
ORIGIN Maximum Protection Shipping Process : ORIGIN Wooden Crate Armor
24/7 U.S Based Warranty : 1 Year Part Replacement with 45 Day Free Shipping
Free ORIGIN PC Gear : ORIGIN PC T-Shirt
Size : Medium
Free ORIGIN PC Gear : ORIGIN PC Mousepad

Thank you! What site did you get this from so I could check it out myself? Again thank you I really appreciate it!

 

[logainofhades]

I agree that Origin PC is possibly the way to go. I was going to recommend a Lenovo Legion, with an RTX 3070, but they seem to be out of stock.

ORIGIN PC | Gaming PCs, Gaming Laptops, Custom Computers

Custom gaming laptops and gaming PCs built with the best high performance components, overclocked processors, and liquid cooling for your gaming pc.

www.originpc.com

I did an AMD rig, with this build. A 5600x is superior to a 10600k.


Case : ORIGIN Chronos with Mesh
Exterior Color : Black
Interior Lighting : No Lights
Current Special Offer : Free US Ground Shipping $50 value
Processors : AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core 3.7GHz (4.6GHz Max Boost)
Motherboard : ASRock B550M-ITX/ac
Memory : 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 3000MHz (2x8GB)
System Cooling : CORSAIR H100i PRO XT RGB
System Fans : ORIGIN PC Maximum Fan Kit
Graphics Cards : NVIDIA 8GB GeForce RTX 3070
Operating System : MS Windows 10 Home
Operating System Drive : CORSAIR 1TB MP600 Gen4
RAID : No RAID
Power Supply : 750 Watt CORSAIR SFX Series
The ORIGIN Difference : The Best Gaming Experience Guaranteed
24/7 U.S Based Warranty : 1 Year Part Replacement with 45 Day Free Shipping
Free ORIGIN PC Gear : ORIGIN PC T-Shirt
Size : Medium
Free ORIGIN PC Gear : ORIGIN PC Mousepad

 

[Eximo]

OriginPC
Maingear
DigitalStorm

All offer international shipping, though by quote it seems. And you may have to pay import duties.

I'm not familiar with any EU builders, usually point people to the UK builders, but most of them have stopped shipping to EU due to Brexit.

 

[ShanksMyPants]

Alright I'll check out these two builds.

I have som basic questions I'd like to ask as well.

In regards to Covid-19 are the prices higher on parts because of it?

How long will I be able to use either of these two builds before noticeable wear and tear begins? This is a large expenditure I've been saving up for. My honest wish is for it to be able to at least work for 10 years before anything is completely unusable. Is this workable?

Is it possible to use a USB stick to transfer games over to the new computer and it working? I have some custom configurations done on my current computer and I'd like for them to stay.

Edit - What about storage drives. Which SSD should I use or does it not matter?

 

[Eximo]

AMD build has the superior CPU but the inferior GPU. GPUs get replaced more often, so consider that.

Covid is part of the problem. There was a brief shutdown or reduced working shifts in many of the factories supporting the PC industry.
Covid also led to a lot more people stuck at home gaming.
Silicon production capacity is not sufficient to meet all demand in the current market place.
There are new GPUs available from Nvidia and AMD, which are a significant improvement over previous generation hardware. Many people want to upgrade.
There are new consoles available this year, they use AMD APUs, so their weren't 5000 series APUs (yet), More people needed GPUs.
There is currently a drought in Taiwan, effecting all forms of production.
DDR5 production is beginning to ramp up so older fabs are being re-tooled.
The list goes on....

Wear and tear, fans can last upwards of 3-5 years under heavy use, but that is a minor expense to replace. If you use the system sparingly, many more years.
Good power supplies can have ten year warranties, typically 5-7. They may operate long after that. (They also have fans in them)
Graphics cards should be replaced when they no longer run the games you want at the resolution and settings you want.

With regular maintenance a computer can last ten years, but by that point it might not be as 'fast' as you would want.
Enthusiasts tend to upgrade every 3-4 years, but 7 years is more typical. 10 years usually means buying top of the line...which the above builds are not. (Though the GPU is close)

Steam libraries can be moved over pretty easily. Traditional installed applications, not so much, they will need to be re-installed.

You can try the User State Migration Tool (Or alternatives). It might be able to copy over certain user profile configurations which may contain your game settings (for some games)

NVMe SSDs are the current go to standard. A drive that plugs directly into the motherboard with no power or data cables. Connected directly to the CPU this gives it an unparalleled speed. 3.5GB/s transfer speeds are possible with PCIe 3.0, 4.0 is even higher. SATA 3 SSDs max out around 550MB/s and hard drives max out around 200MB/s.
Practically no user experience difference between PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 for storage, only if you have multiple storage drives that fast and access to something like 10Gbps networking does it matter at all. Games will load a tiny bit faster with a faster drive.

 

[ShanksMyPants]

I've looked at the builds and they seem great. The only problem is the shipping and customs tax. The shipping and tax together comes around to 1000 USD rounded up. Which is way out of my budget.

I've been looking at the only Swedish site that sells computers that aren't a complete scam.

Could you guys take a look at these computers and the prices and tell me which one would be the best overall?


https://www.inet.se/produkt/1512031/taurus-gaming-elite-rtx-3070-11700k - 2 944,16 USD

The specifics are in Swedish, I hope it's not to big of a deal.

Intel
ProcessortypCore i7, (11700K)
ProcessorkylareCorsair Hydro H100x 240mm
Antal kärnor8 st
Antal trådar16 st
Hastighet3.6 GHz, 5 GHz Med turbo
Grafikkort
TillverkareNvidia
GrafikkortGeForce RTX 3070
Minne8 GB
Minne
Internminne16 GB
MinnestypDDR4, (Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 3200MHz)
Lediga minnesplatser2 st
Maximal minnesstorlek128 GB
Lagring
Primär lagringsenhet1 000 GB
Anslutningm.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 4 x4
Kommunikation
BluetoothJa, (5.2)
NätverkJa, (1st, 2.5 Gbit/s)
Trådlöst nätverkJa, (802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax)
Anslutningar
HDMI-utgångJa, (2st, 2.1)
DisplayPort-utgångJa, (3st, 1.4a)
USB 2.02 st
USB 3.0/3.1 Gen16 st, (varav 2st i fronten)
USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type A2 st
USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C1 st
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type C1 st
Mått
Bredd210 mm
Djup395 mm
Höjd456 mm
Vikt16 kg
Övrigt
Optisk enhetNej
ModerkortASUS ROG STRIX Z590-F GAMING WIFI
LjudkortJa, (ROG SupremeFX)
Installerade fläktar1st 140mm fram & 1st 120mm bak
Nätaggregat750W, (Corsair RM)
FönstersidaJa
OperativsystemWindows 10 Home
Garanti3 år
Benchmarks
3DMark Time Spy13 246 poäng
3DMark Firestrike26 647 poäng
3DMark 1134 051 poäng


https://www.inet.se/produkt/1512035/taurus-gaming-elite-rx-6700-xt-5800x - 2 648,31

TillverkareAMD
ProcessortypRyzen 7, (5800X)
ProcessorkylareCorsair Hydro H100x 240mm
Antal kärnor8 st
Antal trådar16 st
Hastighet3.8 GHz, 4.7 GHz Med turbo
Grafikkort
TillverkareAMD
GrafikkortRadeon RX 6700 XT
Minne12 GB
Minne
Internminne16 GB
MinnestypDDR4, (Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 3600MHz)
Lediga minnesplatser2 st
Maximal minnesstorlek128 GB
Lagring
Primär lagringsenhet1 000 GB, (Samsung 980 Pro)
Anslutningm.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 4 x4
Kommunikation
BluetoothNej
NätverkJa, (1st 10/100/1000 Mbit/s)
Trådlöst nätverkNej
Anslutningar
HDMI-utgångJa, (2st, 2.1)
DisplayPort-utgångJa, (2st, 1.4a)
USB 2.04 st
USB 3.0/3.1 Gen16 st, (varav 2st i fronten)
USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type A2 st
Mått
Bredd210 mm
Djup395 mm
Höjd456 mm
Vikt16 kg
Övrigt
Optisk enhetNej
ModerkortGigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
LjudkortJa, (Realtek ALC1220)
Installerade fläktar1st 140mm fram & 1st 120mm bak
Nätaggregat650W, (Corsair RM)
FönstersidaJa
OperativsystemWindows 10 Home
Garanti3 år
Benchmarks
3DMark Time Spy11 806 poäng
3DMark Firestrike30 617 poäng
3DMark 1134 696 poäng

https://www.inet.se/produkt/1511033/taurus-gaming-rtx-3070-10700k - 2 531,41 USD

TillverkareIntel
ProcessortypCore i7, (10700K)
ProcessorkylareVattenkylning, (Corsair Hydro H100x)
Antal kärnor8 st
Antal trådar16 st
Hastighet3.8 GHz, 5.1 GHz Med turbo
Grafikkort
TillverkareNvidia
GrafikkortGeForce RTX 3070
Minne8 GB, (GDDR6)
Minne
Internminne16 GB
MinnestypDDR4, (Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 3200MHz)
Lediga minnesplatser2 st
Maximal minnesstorlek128 GB
Lagring
Primär lagringsenhet1 000 GB, (Kingston A2000)
Anslutningm.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 3 x4
Kommunikation
BluetoothJa, (5.0)
NätverkJa, (1st 10/100/1000 Mbit/s)
Trådlöst nätverkJa, (802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax)
Anslutningar
HDMI-utgångJa, (2st, 2.1)
DisplayPort-utgångJa, (2st, 1.4)
USB 2.02 st
USB 3.0/3.1 Gen17 st, (varav 2st i fronten)
USB 3.1 Gen2Ja, (1 st)
Mått
Bredd210 mm
Djup395 mm
Höjd456 mm
Vikt16 kg
Övrigt
Optisk enhetNej
ModerkortGigabyte Z490 GAMING X AX
LjudkortJa, (Realtek ALC1200)
Installerade fläktar1st 140mm fram & 1st 120mm bak
Nätaggregat650W, (Corsair RM)
FönstersidaNej
OperativsystemWindows 10 Home
Garanti3 år
Benchmarks
3DMark Time Spy13 173 poäng
3DMark Firestrike26 832 poäng
3DMark 1133 785 poäng

https://www.inet.se/produkt/1978430/acer-predator-orion-5000-i7-32gb-1tb-rtx-3080 -2 944,16 USD - Out of stock.

Intel
ProcessortypCore i7, (10700K)
Antal kärnor8 st
Antal trådar16 st
Hastighet3.8 GHz, 5.1 GHz Med turbo
Grafikkort
TillverkareNvidia
GrafikkortGeForce RTX 3080
Minne10 GB, (GDDR6X)
Minne
Internminne32 GB, (4x8GB)
MinnestypDDR4 UDIMM, (2933 MHz)
Maximal minnesstorlek64 GB
Lagring
Primär lagringsenhet1 TB, (SSD)
Anslutningm.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 3 x4 (2280), (1st ledig plats för m.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 3 x4 (2280) och1st ledig plats för HDD 2,5" eller 3,5")
Kommunikation
BluetoothJa, (5.1)
NätverkJa, (Killer™ E3100G 2,5G Ethernet)
Trådlöst nätverkJa, (Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax))
Anslutningar
VGA-utgångNej
HDMI-utgångJa, (1st, 2.0b)
DVI-utgångNej
DisplayPort-utgångJa, (3st)
USB 2.02 st
USB 3.0/3.1 Gen13 st
USB 3.1 Gen2Ja, (3st USB 3.2 Gen 2 varav 1st är Type C. Samtliga i fronten)
PS2-portNej
Mått
Bredd190 mm
Djup460 mm
Höjd443.6 mm
Övrigt
Optisk enhetNej
ModerkortIntel Z490
LjudkortJa, (DTS: X® Ultra)
Nätaggregat730W, (80+ Gold ATX)
OperativsystemWindows 10 Home
Garanti1 år

https://www.inet.se/produkt/2219423/asus-rog-strix-g35dx-ryzen-7-32gb-2tb-rtx-3080 -3 298,80 USD

TillverkareAMD
ProcessortypRyzen 7, (5800X)
Antal kärnor8 st
Antal trådar16 st
Hastighet3.8 GHz, 4.7 GHz Med turbo
Grafikkort
TillverkareNvidia
GrafikkortGeForce RTX 3080
Minne10 GB
Minne
Internminne32 GB, ((2 x 16GB))
MinnestypDDR4, (3200 MHz)
Lediga minnesplatser2 st
Maximal minnesstorlek64 GB
Lagring
Primär lagringsenhet1 TB, (SSD)
Sekundär lagringsenhet1 TB, (7200rpm HDD)
Anslutningm.2 PCIe NVMe Gen 3 x4 (2280)
Kommunikation
BluetoothJa, (5.0)
NätverkJa, (1 st 10/100/1000 Mbit/s)
Trådlöst nätverkJa, (Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) 2x2)
Anslutningar
VGA-utgångNej
HDMI-utgångJa, (1st, 2.0b)
DVI-utgångNej
DisplayPort-utgångJa, (3st, 1.4)
USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type A6 st
USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type C2 st
USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type A3 st
USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C1 st
PS2-portNej
Mått
Bredd279 mm
Djup433 mm
Höjd501 mm
Vikt15 kg
Övrigt
Optisk enhetNej
ModerkortAMD X570
LjudkortJa, (SupremeFX S1220A CODEC)
Kortplatser3st PCIe 4 x16, 2st PCIe 4 x1, 2st m2 för SSD
KabinettATX
Nätaggregat750W, ((80 Plus Gold))
OperativsystemWindows 10 Home
ÖvrigtVattenkylning 240mm
Garanti1 år


Which one of these is the best for the price and parts you get? Also if there is an EU site for building computers that aren't UK considering Brexit then I'd love to check around on that site as well.

 

[Eximo]

Well, they are all decent.

i7 10th and 11th gen.
Ryzen 7 5800X
240mm AIO
RTX 3070, RTX3080, 6700 XT, all late model high end cards.
Corsair RM power supplies
NVMe SSDs (Though no idea why anyone needs a 980 Pro, very expensive drive)

Best of the bunch is the most expensive 5800X + RTX 3080, no cooler listed though? 4K gaming capable
Second would be the 5800X + 6700XT good 1440p gaming, ludicrous storage performance
Third would be the first one 11700k + RTX 3070, good 1440p gaming
Cheapest one is a fine system, just using less good parts.