Build Advice I'm planning to build a gaming PC ?

[Matoo69]

I am planning to buy build a gaming pc

What you think about this one?

My maxmax budget is €1300 but must include everything (mouse/keyboard and display)

This is what i found

This pc in parts are more expensive.

Idk now bettwen amd and intel
(Was always using intel and nvidina but i heard that ryzen is very good)

Thanks

 

[Lutfij]

Ryzen is better overall after what Intel's been going through and I wouldn't invest in Intel since stores are trying to clear their inventory, inventory no one else wants. I noticed the HR as the site extension, are you located in Croatia?

If the linked build is all you can find, you should opt for a non F SKU i5, since the iGPU will come in handy when troubleshooting display related issues. The model of the motherboard is not mentioned but it's stating an H610 chipset, so that's another performance crippler. The ram's specifications aren't mention in the specifications page either. Neither is it for the SSD and the PSU used in your build.

Overall, you're paying more than you think. I'd opt for a build from the ground up and perhaps use PCPartPicker to state what the closest European country to you is, since Croatia isn't mentioned in the drop menu(top right hand corner).

This pc in parts are more expensive.
Pay once and get your build right instead of fixing someone else's mistake.

 

[Matoo69]

Ryzen is better overall after what Intel's been going through and I wouldn't invest in Intel since stores are trying to clear their inventory, inventory no one else wants. I noticed the HR as the site extension, are you located in Croatia?

If the linked build is all you can find, you should opt for a non F SKU i5, since the iGPU will come in handy when troubleshooting display related issues. The model of the motherboard is not mentioned but it's stating an H610 chipset, so that's another performance crippler. The ram's specifications aren't mention in the specifications page either. Neither is it for the SSD and the PSU used in your build.

Overall, you're paying more than you think. I'd opt for a build from the ground up and perhaps use PCPartPicker to state what the closest European country to you is, since Croatia isn't mentioned in the drop menu(top right hand corner).

This pc in parts are more expensive.
Pay once and get your build right instead of fixing someone else's mistake.

Hello, yes croatia.

I work with pc,fixing it,mobil phones also etc… (but this is my like secend job or call it freetime job). But didnt have any “gaming” for few years,last gaming was laptop with rtx2060 and i7-10750h.
My last amd proc was like 10+y ago so didnt use amd since then.

Nevertheless my max budget is for everthing 1300€

What for this kind off money would you reccomend me?
I would like 16/32gb ram,1tb storage it could be 500/500 ssd/hdd or everthing ssd.

Amd or geforce for gpu?

Thanks

 

[Matoo69]

Btw i was looking for like i5-12400f vs ryzen 7 5700x or 5800x and from benchmarks are like the same. So idk.

Thanks in advance

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Can you ship it from Hungary? Its about 1125 without shipping and KB,mouse, speakers.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (60790.00Ft @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (63990.00Ft @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (47590.00Ft @ Alza)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (53990.00Ft @ Alza)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC V2 Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card (113290.00Ft @ Alza)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case (20190.00Ft @ Alza)
Power Supply: ADATA XPG Core Reactor II VE 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (34390.00Ft @ Alza)
Monitor: MSI MAG 256F 24.5" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor (45990.00Ft @ Alza)
Total: 440220.00Ft
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-04 16:10 CEST+0200

 

[Matoo69]

Can you ship it from Hungary? Its about 1125 without shipping and KB,mouse, speakers.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 8500G 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (60790.00Ft @ Alza)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (63990.00Ft @ Alza)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (47590.00Ft @ Alza)
Storage: Kingston Fury Renegade 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (53990.00Ft @ Alza)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC V2 Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card (113290.00Ft @ Alza)
Case: Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case (20190.00Ft @ Alza)
Power Supply: ADATA XPG Core Reactor II VE 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (34390.00Ft @ Alza)
Monitor: MSI MAG 256F 24.5" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor (45990.00Ft @ Alza)
Total: 440220.00Ft
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-04 16:10 CEST+0200

Hello, thanks, idk…. Must check it

Myb i will buy it here if i gona take it to pay it everymonth one piece if you know what i mean…like 500/5months

What about ryzen or intel cpu? Like i5-14th gen or ryzen gen4-5?

And what about gpu? I found one rtx 4060 ti 16gb or should i take amd rx 6750 xt or myb somthing little stronger of amd?

In general amd or intel and amd or geforce?
Thanks

 

[Why_Me]

Add a keyboard and mouse.

Board - €139,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-plo...60-wi-fi-ddr4-bluetooth-matx-s-1700-010502253

CPU - €134,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/procesor-intel-core-i5-12400f-box-s-1700-2-5ghz-18mb-six-core-050600208

Cooler - €24,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/cooler-deepcool-ag300-za-intel-i-amd-crni-010509055

RAM - €79,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/memorija-pc...16a-dtbkd35-ddr4-3200mhz-kit-2x16gb-010504347

SSD - €74,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/ssd-1tb-adata-legend-800-m-2-nvme-2280-maks-3500-2200-mb-s-010505118

Graphics card - €319,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/graficka-kartica-gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-windforce-oc-12gb-gddr6-010503020

PSU - €109,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/napajanje-7...x-v3-0-120mm-vent-modularno-80-gold-010507119

Case - €39,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/kuciste-antec-ax20-midi-atx-window-crno-bez-napajanja-010508190

Case fan - €9,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/ventilator-antec-storm-120mm-pwm-crni-010512075

Monitor - €149,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/gaming-moni...1ms-250cd-m2-freesync-zvucnici-crni-010601360

Total: €1084,90

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Hello, thanks, idk…. Must check it

Myb i will buy it here if i gona take it to pay it everymonth one piece if you know what i mean…like 500/5months

What about ryzen or intel cpu? Like i5-14th gen or ryzen gen4-5?

And what about gpu? I found one rtx 4060 ti 16gb or should i take amd rx 6750 xt or myb somthing little stronger of amd?

In general amd or intel and amd or geforce?
Thanks

The 8500G is comparable to Ryzen 7600. With the mobo i listed, you can upgrade to Ryzen 9000 series or beyond if you want. So i would suggest you to stick with AM5 if you plan on keeping your system for long.

I would not suggest thw 13th or 14th gen i5 CPUs right now. If you want, get the 12400 now and upgrade later to Intel Bartlett lake when it comes out next year.

How much is the 6750XT here? If i am not wrong, the 7600 is about 200 Euros? If the 6750XT is about 275 Euros, i would say that is a good deal.

 

[Matoo69]

Add a keyboard and mouse.

Board - €139,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-plo...60-wi-fi-ddr4-bluetooth-matx-s-1700-010502253

CPU - €134,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/procesor-intel-core-i5-12400f-box-s-1700-2-5ghz-18mb-six-core-050600208

Cooler - €24,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/cooler-deepcool-ag300-za-intel-i-amd-crni-010509055

RAM - €79,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/memorija-pc...16a-dtbkd35-ddr4-3200mhz-kit-2x16gb-010504347

SSD - €74,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/ssd-1tb-adata-legend-800-m-2-nvme-2280-maks-3500-2200-mb-s-010505118

Graphics card - €319,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/graficka-kartica-gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-windforce-oc-12gb-gddr6-010503020

PSU - €109,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/napajanje-7...x-v3-0-120mm-vent-modularno-80-gold-010507119

Case - €39,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/kuciste-antec-ax20-midi-atx-window-crno-bez-napajanja-010508190

Case fan - €9,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/ventilator-antec-storm-120mm-pwm-crni-010512075

Monitor - €149,99
https://www.links.hr/hr/gaming-moni...1ms-250cd-m2-freesync-zvucnici-crni-010601360

Total: €1084,90

What about if i buy rtx 4060 ti 16gb insted of 3060?

 

[Matoo69]

The 8500G is comparable to Ryzen 7600. With the mobo i listed, you can upgrade to Ryzen 9000 series or beyond if you want. So i would suggest you to stick with AM5 if you plan on keeping your system for long.

I would not suggest thw 13th or 14th gen i5 CPUs right now. If you want, get the 12400 now and upgrade later to Intel Bartlett lake when it comes out next year.

How much is the 6750XT here? If i am not wrong, the 7600 is about 200 Euros? If the 6750XT is about 275 Euros, i would say that is a good deal.

Whats wrong with 13th and 14th gen intel?

If i buy 12th gen i now read that in 15th gen will be new socket so i cannot use it.

What about gpu? Rtx 3060/4060/4060ti or 4070

Or should i get amd?
Thanks

 

[Matoo69]

if i gonna buy amd am5 which one to buy?
Am5 is better then am4?
Difference bettwen zen4 and zen5?

I se that i5-14400 is like ryzen 7 7700

Link for cpus

 

[Lucky_SLS]

You can see the relative performance of 8600G (8500G will be comparable with PBO) with 13th gen and 14th gen CPUs

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-5-8600g-cpu-review/4

But to get that performance, you would have to run the CPUs at their unlocked performance state. This state might or might not cause instability problems in games.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...says-damage-is-irreversible-no-planned-recall

The Bartlett lake will release on the same LGA 1700 socket. So the B760 mobo listed above by @Why_Me will support the 15th gen CPU.

As for GPU performance:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

AM5 for gaming is not a big hit. I would wait for the X3D chips for AM5. Zen 4 based 7800X3D is the best CPU for gaming right now.

 

[triplex1]

from Hellas and thessaloniki

 

[triplex1]

and this from same eshop wih ryzen 7600

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ does not list which PSU, mobo, SSD, RAM model is used in it. Might be a good deal, might also be a fire hazard.

 

[Matoo69]

You can see the relative performance of 8600G (8500G will be comparable with PBO) with 13th gen and 14th gen CPUs

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-5-8600g-cpu-review/4

But to get that performance, you would have to run the CPUs at their unlocked performance state. This state might or might not cause instability problems in games.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...says-damage-is-irreversible-no-planned-recall

The Bartlett lake will release on the same LGA 1700 socket. So the B760 mobo listed above by @Why_Me will support the 15th gen CPU.

As for GPU performance:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

AM5 for gaming is not a big hit. I would wait for the X3D chips for AM5. Zen 4 based 7800X3D is the best CPU for gaming right now.

Yes i se now….

Hmm this is now hard choise betwen intel and amd for cpu…
As for gpu i would take 4060 ti or 4070 or for the same price if i find “stronger” Rx amd gpu

I have 9cpu to chose from amd on AM5

 

[triplex1]

if you have someone or you can build the computer with the parts you want and offers and do it yourself, the ready ones usually don't have good motherboards and power supplies

 

[triplex1]

one 4060ti with 16gb starts somewhere at 450 euros

 

[Matoo69]

one 4060ti with 16gb starts somewhere at 450 euros

Yes it is 510€ 16gb,the 8gb are around 420/450€ here,the rx 6750 xt is around 440€ and 4070 is 620€ omg….

I found case,mouse,keyboard,psu and i would put watercooler, will post links today or tommorow. I have everything except mobo (becouse i thinking about intel/amd) and gpu😅😅

 

[Matoo69]

Will buy one of this two watercooler or if not so good then i will buy aircooler.

First one
Secend one

What you think about this psu?
Or which psu? Gold 80+? Msi? Modular?
Mobo omg they are expensive for am5 haha
Display

Ram would be 2x8 or 2x16
Nmve ssd 1tb kingstone or adata or somthing like that

Only thinks left are cpu and gpu

 

[Lucky_SLS]

This PSU: https://www.links.hr/hr/napajanje-7...x-v3-0-120mm-vent-modularno-80-gold-010507119

You dont really need a liquid cooler. The 8500G comes with bundled cooler. save the cash for other components.

I would advice you to get a good mobo if you want to use it for a long time. Like this one: https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-ploca-asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-amd-b650-ddr5-matx-s-am5-010502119

Ryzen needs fast ram: https://www.links.hr/hr/memorija-pc...ek2-32-expo-ddr5-6400mhz-kit-2x16gb-010504308

 

[Matoo69]

This PSU: https://www.links.hr/hr/napajanje-7...x-v3-0-120mm-vent-modularno-80-gold-010507119

You dont really need a liquid cooler. The 8500G comes with bundled cooler. save the cash for other components.

I would advice you to get a good mobo if you want to use it for a long time. Like this one: https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-ploca-asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-amd-b650-ddr5-matx-s-am5-010502119

Ryzen needs fast ram: https://www.links.hr/hr/memorija-pc...ek2-32-expo-ddr5-6400mhz-kit-2x16gb-010504308

Ok thanks.

gpu rx 6800 vs rx 7700 xt?
And are those gpu better then 4060 ti or 4070?
(For 4070 i can buy rx 7800 xt but idk if is better or not)

For cpu if i can strech more money myb i buy (ryzen 7 7800x3d) but this is BIG MYB

 

[Lucky_SLS]

It depends on your budget. 7800X3D? best CPU for gaming. period. You will not regret it.

For a 1080p 144hz monitor, the 7700XT is more than enough, Anything more and it is wasteful. The 4060Ti is not great for the price. 4070 only if you want ray tracing. Have a look at the GPU hierarchy page I linked above.

If you get the 7800X3D, get this cooler: https://www.links.hr/hr/cooler-deepcool-ag620-argb-za-intel-i-amd-crni-010509053 or the Arctic liquid freezer III you linked above.

 

[Matoo69]

It depends on your budget. 7800X3D? best CPU for gaming. period. You will not regret it.

For a 1080p 144hz monitor, the 7700XT is more than enough, Anything more and it is wasteful. The 4060Ti is not great for the price. 4070 only if you want ray tracing. Have a look at the GPU hierarchy page I linked above.

I did but will do one more time.

What about 1440p/4k? Gpu/monitor?

Is rx 6800 better or = as 7700xt

And what about 4070 vs 7800xt (just asking becose of price both price the same)

I was thinking about this monitor
Display

 

[Lucky_SLS]

4k, you can forget about it. 7900XTX or 4080 Super is advisable. 4090 for best performance.

2k gaming? 4070/ti Super for Nvidia, 7800XT for AMD.

4070 is in between 7700XT and 7800XT.

The monitor is the cheapest 27" 1080p monitor. Nothing wrong with it. Like i said, 7700XT is more than enough for 1080p.