Im really pissed off about my new PC

[migueldlr88]

Hi, first post here. I bought a PC and thought i could run BF3 bery smooth at ultra... but its framed, its playable but framed. I think my computer is able to play it at ultra smooth, what do you think? i also feel the pc a little slow. (could the HDD be the issue?)

- AMD FX 8320 Vishera 8-CORE 3.5GHZ Black Edition
- Sapphire HD 7950 3GB
- Motherboard Saberbooth 990FX R2.0
- 8gb crosair RAM 1800
- HDD: Seagate st1500dl003-9vt16l 1.5tb (this is the shitty item of the pc, i think)
- Power supply: 750W GX cooler master

I think this should run BF3 ultra.

Also i put Assasins creed maxed and the graphies went worst... some didnt match...


Thanks

 

[bystander]

Yeah, I googled after I posted that and it appears that the 7870 and 7950 are basically the same but with different clock speeds, so my overclocked 7870 probably comes close to his stock 7950, plus Intel architecture. My 40 - 60 FPS was just kind of the average I notice while playing multiplayer.

You got that wrong. The 7950 is the same as the 7970 only with lower clocks and maybe a few disabled shaders. Though the 7870 isn't that different, it is most similar to the 7850.

 

[voiidwulf]

You got that wrong. The 7950 is the same as the 7970 only with lower clocks and maybe a few disabled shaders. Though the 7870 isn't that different, it is most similar to the 7850.

Oh, your right.

 

[Serthy]

I dunno about the overclocking, just seems dangerous to me and expensive if something goes wrong.

I think if you can run it on on high with 70+ i think your doing alright.

 

[cats_Paw]

Take off ambient oclusion, get off AA and use SweetFX to get AA. Should get you going np.

 

[Sunius]

I dunno about the overclocking, just seems dangerous to me and expensive if something goes wrong.

I think if you can run it on on high with 70+ i think your doing alright.

Nothing can go wrong if you're careful. If he bought FX CPU, he doesn't have any other choice than to OC them. They were meant to be OCed, as at stock their performance sucks.

 

[The Stealthinator]

I've heard the AMD FX CPUs are terrible. Even if you got an 8-core one.

 

[HEXiT]

the newer piledrivers are slightly better but not much. but they do run bf3 pretty well as it uses all 8 cores. on that setup he will be lucky to stay above 60 on most multiplayer maps more like 55 average with them settings.
certain parts of the maps are badly optimized you may be looking at a full screen of blank wall and thats all you see but in certain areas the gpu still draws huge amounts of pollys that just cant be see which results if fps crumpling...

go to the south side of the market map and stand in the main road with the market square at your back. now turn slightly to your right you should have buildings in front of you and very little else. walk sideways along that road till you come to the bridge and you will see your fps bouncing all over the place as you move...
like i say you wont see much other than walls and ally ways but the fps drop will be dramatic as the card renders stuff you cant see.
just poor programming on dices part.

 

[The Stealthinator]

Yeah the FXs should be overclocked to increase performance. There's not much else you can do about them.

 

[tomniko]

I've heard the AMD FX CPUs are terrible. Even if you got an 8-core one.

I have the AMD FX 8350.......with the 7870 and I can play Skyrim MAXED OUT>

My Brother's rig has an i5 with Nvidia GTX 560 and even though it is a generation before it cannot handle Skyrim Maxed out.

This is contradictory to what all the websites say that the AMDs are 2-3 generations behind in performance.....

Not sure about BF3 yet.
AMD is releasing upcoming 12.11 drivers and according to them: "•10%-15% more performance in Battlefield 3 in most cases
◦More than 20% in certain missions and sequences (Comrades)"

SO I would wait for the new drivers.....and re-test

 

[casualcolors]

I have the AMD FX 8350.......with the 7870 and I can play Skyrim MAXED OUT>

My Brother's rig has an i5 with Nvidia GTX 560 and even though it is a generation before it cannot handle Skyrim Maxed out.

This is contradictory to what all the websites say that the AMDs are 2-3 generations behind in performance.....

Not sure about BF3 yet.
AMD is releasing upcoming 12.11 drivers and according to them: "•10%-15% more performance in Battlefield 3 in most cases
◦More than 20% in certain missions and sequences (Comrades)"

SO I would wait for the new drivers.....and re-test

The reason his computer can't handle maxed out skyrim with all the anti-aliasing and so on, is because his card is only a 560. The 560ti was considered the entry-level card to begin to maybe max some games with 2x MSAA at most during its generation. The 560 was well behind it in performance, and more of an OEM card. Your 7870 is considerably more powerful, and Skyrim's not a particularly intense game relative to a lot of things on the market making it kind of a poor benchmark (since so many rigs clear its threshold so easily).

 

[Sunius]

AMDs are 2-3 generations behind in terms of CPUs, not GPUs.

 

[Adsuki]

Migueldlr88, the only HDD I could find was a Green version of your Seagate. Now that's a huge problem for gaming, as Green HDD's are actually slow. Good for the enviroment but slow for gaming. RPM is 5900, I use a WD HDD and the RPM on it is 7200, perfect for gaming because it's faster and can read all of the files on my computer in time for quicker loads than a Green HDD. Your right, it is the worst item on your PC but I stopped with AMD three years ago, went to Intel so I don't know anything about your CPU. Intel's Sandy and Ivy Bridge I know by heart, the FX series I don't know. But if it's the newest FX CPU to replace the Bulldozer, then it should be good enough as it can stand against Intel for budget builders. Hope this helps and happy gaming! =D

 

[voiidwulf]

I have the AMD FX 8350.......with the 7870 and I can play Skyrim MAXED OUT>

My Brother's rig has an i5 with Nvidia GTX 560 and even though it is a generation before it cannot handle Skyrim Maxed out.

This is contradictory to what all the websites say that the AMDs are 2-3 generations behind in performance.....

Not sure about BF3 yet.
AMD is releasing upcoming 12.11 drivers and according to them: "•10%-15% more performance in Battlefield 3 in most cases
◦More than 20% in certain missions and sequences (Comrades)"

SO I would wait for the new drivers.....and re-test

Seriously? You are saying that in this thread too? The 7870 is much more powerful than a GTX 560, Intel or not. Also, how come it changed from your friend to your brother?

 

[iyzik]

Seriously? You are saying that in this thread too? The 7870 is much more powerful than a GTX 560, Intel or not. Also, how come it changed from your friend to your brother?

I second this. 7870 owns a 560 Ti. And AMD is way behind in CPUs not GPUs. They are on top of the GPU market ATM with their 7970 GHz.

 

[casualcolors]

Seriously? You are saying that in this thread too? The 7870 is much more powerful than a GTX 560, Intel or not. Also, how come it changed from your friend to your brother?

Because this is the internet, where formulating an argument to fit your desired response is better than getting a real answer to a real question.

 

[michaelmk86]

TC just OC you HD7950 from 800MHz(core) to 1200Mhz(core) like i did, and you will a massive massive differences in performance, of course your GPU need to have a good cooler. also OC your cpu will help in BF3.

 

[pcnewbie_78]

The 8-core cpu you have isnt really utilised in my knowledge in games yet so it performs worse then a quad core i5-i7 cpu.

But the 7950 is a great gpu, so no reason why it shouldn't run bf3 maxed maybe with AA down a little bit.

 

[The Stealthinator]

You need to look at per thread performance to choose the best CPU. 8-core CPU might perform better than quad-core using all threads, but if only using one thread, maybe the quad-core could perform better. Because games aren't yet designed to take advantage of more than 4-cores, having a 6 or 8-core CPU won't really help over a quad when it comes to gaming.

 

[iyzik]

Well in I have an i7 3770K with hyper threading so it has 8 threads, as does the FX-8. And bf3 most certainly does utilize all of those threads, BUT if I disable hyper threading and run the game on 4/4 instead of 4/8 I really dont see a big difference, barely noticeable at all.

 

[The Stealthinator]

Maybe BF3 doesn't utilize all those threads. It is very rare to find a game that utilizes more than 4 cores today.

 

[iyzik]

Maybe BF3 doesn't utilize all those threads. It is very rare to find a game that utilizes more than 4 cores today.

Yeah, I agree with that. All I am saying is that if I monitor CPU thread usage across all 8 threads during bf3, they are all being used. But if I put it at 4 threads, there is no real performance difference.

 

[The Stealthinator]

Not much you can do about that....

 

[Sunius]

Yeah, I agree with that. All I am saying is that if I monitor CPU thread usage across all 8 threads during bf3.

That's because windows spreads the load, and not because the game uses 8 threads.

 

[iyzik]

That's because windows spreads the load, and not because the game uses 8 threads.

Figured thats what it was.