In need of a keyboard

[Nikos K]

I need an under-100€ (better if it is closer to 50) keyboard which I'm going to use mainly for typing but also for gaming. Preferably with a mouse bundle but not absolutely necessary. Don't care about RGB lighting. Would obviously like if it is a mechanical one, but I don't mind it not being one as long as I can comfortably use it for both gaming and typing. Also I was thinking about a wireless one but I don't know if it will have issues with response time? I currently have a typical wireless Microsoft one, and honestly I haven't had any problems with it at all in any aspect, however I'm sure I can get a better experience with a more expensive one.

 

[DerrickChen]

Hi,

Not sure if you can find either Ducky or IKBC in your country; otherwise they are both nice brands from Taiwan.

 

[Peter Martin]

Rosewill k85 kb and Rosewill k95 gaming mouse. Total 80 dollars. Mechanical kb

Fantastic performance and quality. Both RGB

Totally programmable kb too

 

[Nikos K]

Rosewill k85 kb and Rosewill k95 gaming mouse. Total 80 dollars. Mechanical kb

Fantastic performance and quality. Both RGB

Totally programmable kb too

Appreciate your answer, however unfortunately it isn't available in my country.

 

[DerrickChen]

It seems like you might want to go for a little keyboard hunt then? I think it might be good to give you a small list to consider when getting a new mechanical keyboard.

For switches,
Cherry switches, ALPS... Cherry switches are the most common option and they are decent enough.
Cheery switches have many variants. ie Brown, black, red, blue, silver, etc... It's personal preference. Pick whichever that suits you.
For keycaps,
There are several materials out there. ie ABS< PBT< POM...
Don't get ABS. If you like how it feels, then I don't suppose there's anything I can do though.
There are also some printing methods. ie Pad printing< Laser marking< Dye sublimation<Double-shot injection moulding.
Simply get Dye sublimation or Double-shot.

As for the mouse. You can consider Logitech G402 or 502, Razer Deathadder, Zowie(BenQ)'s mouses. I like Zowie the most but it costs a bit more.
EDIT: Oh, just saw you're looking for a wireless one... Sorry...

Anyway, I hope this can help you. 😀

 

[Nikos K]

It seems like you might want to go for a little keyboard hunt then? I think it might be good to give you a small list to consider when getting a new mechanical keyboard.

For switches,
Cherry switches, ALPS... Cherry switches are the most common option and they are decent enough.
Cheery switches have many variants. ie Brown, black, red, blue, silver, etc... It's personal preference. Pick whichever that suits you.
For keycaps,
There are several materials out there. ie ABS< PBT< POM...
Don't get ABS. If you like how it feels, then I don't suppose there's anything I can do though.
There are also some printing methods. ie Pad printing< Laser marking< Dye sublimation<Double-shot injection moulding.
Simply get Dye sublimation or Double-shot.

As for the mouse. You can consider Logitech G402 or 502, Razer Deathadder, Zowie(BenQ)'s mouses. I like Zowie the most but it costs a bit more.
EDIT: Oh, just saw you're looking for a wireless one... Sorry...

Anyway, I hope this can help you. 😀

Thanks for your help, can you give examples of trustworthy keyboard manufacturers?

 

[DerrickChen]

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Thanks for your help, can you give examples of trustworthy keyboard manufacturers?
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Well uh... I'm afraid that I'm not too familiar with other brands...
I've only bought Razer's Black Widow and Ducky's. Razer uses ABS, and the build quality is alright, I guess. I've tried some Logitech's keyboards as well. I don't like them too much either. Azio's Retro is cool but rubbish at the same time. A Ducky's keyboard only costs me around 70€ here in Taiwan, which is a fair price for what they deliver.
Go to some stores and try them out would probably be a good idea if you can afford to spend some time poking around.
I'm sorry that I can't help you with brands though.

I suppose you can use this to filter.
PBT, Cherry, Dye Sub or Double Shot. That should do it.

 

[Peter Martin]

Ducky has a great reputation too if you can get them. I have a Razer Black Widow Ultimate, and well, I kind of like my Rosewill better, so it's a subjective thing. you do really need to try some out. Gigabyte makes some nice mech kb as well.

there is also this.... i would love one.
https://codekeyboards.com/

 

[martinch]

I need a ... keyboard which I'm going to use mainly for typing but also for gaming ... Would obviously like if it is a mechanical one, but I don't mind it not being one as long as I can comfortably use it for both gaming and typing.

A bit left-field/old school, but I've been using a Cherry G83 at work for the last 12 years - I think they can be had for about £20 now. If you like the old-fashioned-style keys (i.e. tall with a bit of travel), then it's very comfortable for extended periods of typing. My colleague has the mechanical version (ancient - has a PS/2 connector on it, so maybe 20-25 years old?), which has a similar (albeit stiffer) key feel, and is noticeably noisier. I have one at home too, and it's fine for gaming in my experience (e.g. STALKER, Borderlands, RTSs). I've also used a Cherry Stream, which has "laptop style" keys (smaller, less travel, quieter), without issues, although I think the n-key rollover might be a bit more limited (may or may not be an issue for you, depending on your usage). Again, under £20, so should give you a bit of money for a mouse whilst staying in budget.

Mice ... I had a Razer Diamondback which was great, until Razer stopped making drivers for it when Windows 8 came along (which you needed, because it was far too sensitive out-of-the-box). Personally, I like the old Intellimouse shape, and have a Cooler Master Mizar & Alcor (home & work - I think they've been replaced by the MasterMouse 530 now) - not the most expensive feeling mice, but nice and comfortable, decent adjustable sensitivity, and doesn't need drivers.

 

[Nikos K]

Well uh... I'm afraid that I'm not too familiar with other brands...
I've only bought Razer's Black Widow and Ducky's. Razer uses ABS, and the build quality is alright, I guess. I've tried some Logitech's keyboards as well. I don't like them too much either. Azio's Retro is cool but rubbish at the same time. A Ducky's keyboard only costs me around 70€ here in Taiwan, which is a fair price for what they deliver.
Go to some stores and try them out would probably be a good idea if you can afford to spend some time poking around.
I'm sorry that I can't help you with brands though.

No worries, thanks anyway.

Ducky has a great reputation too if you can get them. I have a Razer Black Widow Ultimate, and well, I kind of like my Rosewill better, so it's a subjective thing. you do really need to try some out. Gigabyte makes some nice mech kb as well.

there is also this.... i would love one.
https://codekeyboards.com/

Neither Ducky nor Rosewill are available unfortunately. Is the Gigabyte force k7 good in particular? Found it for 46€.

A bit left-field/old school, but I've been using a Cherry G83 at work for the last 12 years - I think they can be had for about £20 now. If you like the old-fashioned-style keys (i.e. tall with a bit of travel), then it's very comfortable for extended periods of typing. My colleague has the mechanical version (ancient - has a PS/2 connector on it, so maybe 20-25 years old?), which has a similar (albeit stiffer) key feel, and is noticeably noisier. I have one at home too, and it's fine for gaming in my experience (e.g. STALKER, Borderlands, RTSs). I've also used a Cherry Stream, which has "laptop style" keys (smaller, less travel, quieter), without issues, although I think the n-key rollover might be a bit more limited (may or may not be an issue for you, depending on your usage). Again, under £20, so should give you a bit of money for a mouse whilst staying in budget.

Mice ... I had a Razer Diamondback which was great, until Razer stopped making drivers for it when Windows 8 came along (which you needed, because it was far too sensitive out-of-the-box). Personally, I like the old Intellimouse shape, and have a Cooler Master Mizar & Alcor (home & work - I think they've been replaced by the MasterMouse 530 now) - not the most expensive feeling mice, but nice and comfortable, decent adjustable sensitivity, and doesn't need drivers.

Can't find the Cherry G83 anywhere but not really my thing anyway. Found the mastermouse for 530 for 45€, probably gonna get it. Thanks for that.

Also for anyone who might know, are CoolerMaster Masterkeys Lite L, Motospeed CK888, Logitech G213 Prodigy and Razer DeathStalker Essential good?

 

[Peter Martin]

nothing you have listed is mechanical. i would buy none of those, but you can get whatever one you like.

Look at a Redragon K556 or something you can afford or even can get. you will have to shop your countries sites for mechanical keyboards.