installing Win NT 4.0 on newer faster machines

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Are there any issues related to installing and running NT
4.0 server and workstation on the newer machines with
speeds of 2.0+ gHz?

 

[Guest]

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well..so far. The faster the machine, the better NT4 will
run. I have run NT4, as have MANY others, on all the major
chipsets and all pentiums since 166mmx. I think NT4 may be
limited to UDMA4(ATA66), not sure though. Just have SP6a
and also SRP(security roll-up package?) installed.

There are tons of things that NT4 can't take advantage
of though, as you may already know. Particulary with the
new Pentiums 4 - such as hyperthreading - among others,
USB being the other notable natively unsupported
technology. I think there was an issue with HDD's over
80GB's pre SP5, not sure though.

Cut to the chase - NT4 is rock solid on all current 32b
Intel/AMD CPUs - not to forget the venerable DEC Alpha as
well -

>-----Original Message-----
>Are there any issues related to installing and running NT
>4.0 server and workstation on the newer machines with
>speeds of 2.0+ gHz?
>.
>

 

[Calvin]

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Hi Rick and Oscar,

I agree with you Oscar, NT4 should run fine on most modern hardware.

Things i have noted being mentioned in these newsgroups worth repeating:

There are cases reported of problems using Intel chipsets later than the i845
family. Symptoms include inability to install, or missing support (I know
Intel's UDMA HDD drivers for NT4 don't work on chipsets later than i845 :-( -
have a look at the 'Intel Application Accelerator' page on their site for details.)

There is known issue with the DOS VM behaving strangely on machines with a clock
speed over 2.0GHz - there is a hotfix available from Microsoft to address this
problem. See Microsoft Knowledgebase article 320694 - "16-Bit Programs May Not
Update the Screen on Processors Faster Than 2.0GHz"

Elsewise, you will have the standard items to deal with like installing on a
large HDD - see http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/bigdisk.htm for a rundown of how this
is dealt with. HDDs of up to 137GB in IDE and unlimited size in SCSI can be
accomodated without recourse to third party drivers. IDE above 137GB (the 48 bit
LBA address limit) has been addressed using some third party controller hardware
and specifically written NT4 drivers.

USB is a hastle, but often solvable - see http://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/usb.htm for
detail on this.

Firewire is basically unsupported. i have actually seen a NT4 machine running an
external SCSI RAID array with a firewire connect - but recent research fails to
turn up any references to IEEE1394 on NT4, so presumably whoever was doing this
don't do it anymore :-( I would love to be proven wrong here - if anyone knows
anything about this - PLEASE tell us !!

Hope the info helps.

Calvin.

 

[Guest]

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another thing,,i haven't installed NT4 on any computers
with SATA yet,,,not sure about that. Becoming quite common
though. Surely it's the same as having a scsi or raid
array? one would just need drivers on floppy disk to
insert during initial phase of setup. I wouldn't be
surprised if there were efforts to produce drivers for nt4
for the new form factor and major chipset retooling that
is underway over at intel - ie: 925/915 - pci express,
yada yada yada - basically though, with most of current
hardware - MS-NT4 is still a relevant OS - despite having
a GUI - it's geek factor remains high :


>-----Original Message-----
>Are there any issues related to installing and running NT
>4.0 server and workstation on the newer machines with
>speeds of 2.0+ gHz?
>.
>

 

[Calvin]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc (More info?)

Hi Oscar,

Don't count on support from Intel for the newer chipsets on NT4 - they have
already tried setting a precedent with the i865/875 families. Have a look at the
page for the 'Intel Application Accelerator' (basically the UDMA driver for NT4)
for the sad story.

I was hopeful they may relent and recognise that NT4 is still a major player,
but alas so far - NO :-( It may require a bit of a 'complaint' compaign to get
them to recognise this fact - hopefully they can be talked around - I intend to
be sticking with NT4 for a long time to come, and I doubt I'll be a lone voice.

In answer to your comment about SATA - yes, I've seen NT4 solutions available
from companies like Promise, and yes, it basically appears that a suitable NT4
driver is the main requirment for it to be a success under NT4.

Calvin.