Question Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPU Instability - Game Crash

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Hello All,

I've been using an Alienware M18 R1 for ~1.5 years to play games and serve as a general home office PC. For the most part, the machine has worked well, allowing me to play a number of demanding titles without much issue (Hell Divers 2, a variety of Total War games, Squad, War of Rights, Kingdom Come Deliverance). However, I recently picked up an online coop game called DarkTide which crashed at a high frequency (basically every 20-30 minutes of gameplay). While I've had occasional crashes with other games, I've never seen anything of this severity. I did a bit of reading on the game and learned that other players have had instability and performance issues, though the issues seemed to be more relevant at early access. I experimented with my PC's settings and eventually figured out that if I used any sort of "performance" mode for my gaming sessions, the crashes occurred. However, those crashes went away by dialing back to "balanced" mode. The game modes are pre-defined PC settings set by a native app (Alienware Command Center); I believe the "performance" modes enact some sort of mild overclock. I've not had any issue using these performance modes for any game except for DarkTide. So I initially thought that the issue was due to poor game optimization and just resorted to playing the game in balanced mode, a solution which has worked thus far.

Having done a bit more reading on the 13th gen Intel CPU's, I've also seen that those CPU's had their fair share of issues. Supposedly, Intel released some BIOS firmware updates in August of last year. I'm thinking that the mild overclock was causing some sort of instability which triggered crashes for DarkTide.

My questions:
  • Did Intel fully resolve the CPU issues with the BIOS update released in August of CY24?
  • How do i confirm if i have the latest BIOS version? I confirmed that I have an Alienware motherboard with a BIOS version dated for November of CY24. I think I have the latest BIOS version, but I'm not sure.
  • Are there any additional actions recommended beyond the BIOS update? Should I try finetuning my system using the Intel XTU app?
  • Is there any risk with using performance modes (and the associated overclock) with other games? Again, this is a setting that came preset/configured with from the factory.

My Fulll setup:
  • Windows 11 Pro
  • 13th Gen i9-13900HX CPU
  • 32GB RAM
  • 1 TB SSD storage
  • NVIDIA RTX 4080 GPU
 
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Whether the fix has fully resolved the issue depends on who you talk to due to the cult-ish nature of the AMD/Intel discussion. You get to separate the chaff from the wheat as best you can. I'm not aware of any formal study but there are plenty of anecdotes, for whatever anecdotes are worth.

The BIOS version normally appears on screen during the early stage of a startup, but I have no idea if Alienware conforms to that standard or what updates Alienware may provide. I assume you've pounded on their website.

I've seen detailed tuning recommendations on 13th/14th gen boards in the last couple of months, but did not save the link.
 
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I personally don't trust that the issues are fixed, given how poorly the situation was handled. One of the reasons I am still using my 12700k.

Alienware should have your bios updates listed on their website, for your model, with information on what they are for.
 
I personally don't trust that the issues are fixed, given how poorly the situation was handled. One of the reasons I am still using my 12700k.

Alienware should have your bios updates listed on their website, for your model, with information on what they are for.
I've checked on the Dell website (Dell owns Alienware) to confirm that I have the latest firmware updates and drivers - i've done that religiously since buying this laptop.

Is updating the BIOS as simple as downloading a firmware from the OEM website, or is some special installation action required? I've never dealt with BIOS issues before.
 
I've checked on the Dell website (Dell owns Alienware) to confirm that I have the latest firmware updates and drivers - i've done that religiously since buying this laptop.

Is updating the BIOS as simple as downloading a firmware from the OEM website, or is some special installation action required? I've never dealt with BIOS issues before.

BIOS update technique can vary from brand to brand.

You have to hope you can find instructions on the Alienware site or with the download itself. Or perhaps from an Alienware-specific forum. It's not as simple as merely "downloading". You may have to rename a file in the download, for example.
 
the latest BIOS version
Use CPU-Z to double check what microcode version the CPU is using. The latest BIOS version does not always contain the latest microcode version. Look for CPU Microcode 0x12B.

It is possible that DarkTide is buggy but it is also possible that your CPU is no longer 100% stable. All CPUs can degrade over time. The problem with 13th and 14th Gen CPUs is that some of them were degrading way too fast.

Try using software like Intel XTU or ThrottleStop to slow your CPU down. It would be interesting to see if DarkTide is stable with your CPU locked to 4800 MHz or less. Post screenshots of ThrottleStop 9.7 including the FIVR and TPL windows if you need help with this program.


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