Intel 805(2.66)DualCore VS Athlon64 3000 S939

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Ok had a browse, the 805 does overclock quite well.

Is a board like the Asus P5LD2 still compatible with DDR400 though or do I have to switch to DDR2.

If I have to switch to DDR2 then I'd rather go the AMD.
 
@mpasternak

got it... thanks alot... i'm going to buy one today... and also a 6800gt card.. with 1g memory... now my problem is what mother board should i choose with this one... im checking this ECS nForce4.. i'm in low budget...
:lol: , so what do u think guys...
No one has answered his mobo question. You can look yourself here: http://www.newegg.com
 
You want an all around computer. Playing games on the 805, you will not see a difference. The hype that AMD is faster is just hype period! Run excel macro and it will truly tell you the difference. Intel will beat it in that department period 10:1 Run a game, it will not even affect you gaming wise. Pentium M is better on battery life. Somewhere in the future, you will need to do videos, Coreduo will do wonders. Buy it from costco and take both for a spin, they have a pretty good return policy. Don't fall for the hype, prove it to yourself. I did and I wouldn't trade my Pentium M coreduo for anything else. Dell is really good with the xps. 10 of my friends are truly happy with their purchase. Like I said earlier in other post's, costco gets a lot of return on Turion AMD64, heat, battery life is short. Runs slow. Most of these guys goes off of these fanboy posts and thats where they get their over inflated facts. Like jumping on the band wagon. Like everyone jumped on the Bulls band wagon, where are they now. If you can wait, the Morem will be a treat. If not, get the coreduo. Buy it from Dell. They are awesome!
 
Playing games on the 805, you will not see a difference. The hype that AMD is faster is just hype period!
You wouldn't notice 25% more frames?
The 805, is basicly 2 P4b 2.66 chips nailed together. They use a common fsb. They use that bus for the two 2.66s to talk to each other. Either core would be more bandwidth bound than a normal 2.66b. Bothe together, using the same bandwidth chocked bus, take the honor of being the most memory chocked chip ever made.
You really are an idiot you know. Why don't you do the world a favor, and go play on a highway?
 
Buy it from Dell. They are awesome!

This says enough :roll:

Go AMD, I've been looking at Intel processors all week because I'm looking to build a new system. My last system had an xp2800 and It was great at the time. Every review I have read NOT regarding just benchmarks has AMD in the lead in almost EVERY test. In gaming, it's not even a fight, AMD is so far ahead.
 
Hopefully that will be so. But I just can't help thinking that, at least initially, the price won't be quite so good. Especially if it is as good as Intel claims. I think they'll milk it for awhile.
 
Hi guys,

What would you choose among this proc?
What are the pros and cons...
which is faster?

For pure single threaded application, the 3000+ is clearly faster. When dual core compatible game will appears, the 805D will still be underpowered, IMHO. Better solution will be available probably at this time at better price.

Right now, getting the 3000+, a simple Foxconn nforce4 motherboard and the fastest video card you can afford will be the best bet.
 
Not this time. Time to win back the trust. AMD wanted war, they are going to get it.

I'm sure AMD's offerings at the time will be competitive with Conroe. AMD has been ahead for over 3 years; I dont see that as AMD WANTING war, I see that as AMD WINNING war.
 
Not this time. Time to win back the trust. AMD wanted war, they are going to get it.

are u, like, stupid or something?

Here comes the fanboy coming to ruin another thread..

Fucking stupid fanboy that don't have a life are becomming boring..
 
If the 3000 is what you can afford go for it and crank it up, BUT, I tried to save some people a few bucks by using a 939 FoxConn MoBo's and I'm sorry I wasted their and my time, just not very good (that's in my experience). I swapped them all out for Asus boards, I'll never do that again.
 
If the 3000 is what you can afford go for it and crank it up, BUT, I tried to save some people a few bucks by using a 939 FoxConn MoBo's and I'm sorry I wasted their and my time, just not very good (that's in my experience). I swapped them all out for Asus boards, I'll never do that again.

I've use some Foxconn board for simple non enthusiast system (not nforce4 thou) and they have been OK. I'm not impressed by Asus BIOS thou. Too much BIOS release are needed, in my experiences to have them working correctly.

I don't use Asus board as often as I use to recommend. But it is all personnal experiences.

By the way, I almost forget a nice socket 939 board.. Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9

Simple, fast, reliable and cheap.. Got some installed, even one for myself and it was a pleasure to work with.
 
as i posted in the other thread

the 805 is good for chep ness but you stated it needs ddr 2

an amd 3000+ 939 socket be an better buy coes you can get an X2 4800+ later on if you wanted and its ddr1 any amd mother board should do as thay all support from an sempron 2400+ to an FX-60

you can get an Asrock 939-SATA2 that has Dual AGP and PCI-E so got the best of both and its cheap as well

there is allso an asrock mobo that gives you the option to buy an chip card that give you AM2 support later on when it comes out (you will need to buy ddr2 then but it cost alot at the start for AM2 any way)
 
Sorry to hear you had a bad time with a Foxconn board. They have proved very reliable and stable for us as we have been building a lot with them for the last few years. I agree they don't have enough BIOS features for the enthusiast, but I do think they are good boards for stock speeds. As go our own individual experiences, so goes our opinions. We had not done particularly well with Asus 200-2003, so we use them pretty much only on customer request now. Typically recommend Epox now for the overclockers.
 
we usein the foxcon boards now we had no problems with them

in the past i would Never use an Asus mobo for an K7 chip and never will as asus overclocks the cpu by 1% or somthing like that and it can never set the vcore right (set to 1.7-1.8 or somthing and you cant lower it but it let you higher it)

asus for K8 are rock solid had no problems with them

next mobo will probly be an DFI mobo
 
I was hoping to get the 805 as I multitask quite a bit and my Prescott 3.0 GHz can't handle it very well.

I read somewhere that Pentium Ds require special power supplies as well is that true? If I need a new power supply as well as DDR2 then I am definitely going the AMD.

I do not want to wait as my comp will only be in use till next june/july after that it will just be used as a glorified typewriter for at least a year so even if I waited for conroe by the time mobos come out, more budget ones come out I'll only get a few months use out of it and it'll be outdated when I get back.

I want to be able to play Oblivion but more importantly I want it to be able to handle me using Maya and Photoshop at the same time hence the 805.

Thanks
 
I was hoping to get the 805 as I multitask quite a bit and my Prescott 3.0 GHz can't handle it very well.

I read somewhere that Pentium Ds require special power supplies as well is that true? If I need a new power supply as well as DDR2 then I am definitely going the AMD.

I do not want to wait as my comp will only be in use till next june/july after that it will just be used as a glorified typewriter for at least a year so even if I waited for conroe by the time mobos come out, more budget ones come out I'll only get a few months use out of it and it'll be outdated when I get back.

I want to be able to play Oblivion but more importantly I want it to be able to handle me using Maya and Photoshop at the same time hence the 805.

Thanks

You'll need DDR2 for sure, but I don't think you'll need an exceptionnal PSU made especially for them thou..

The 805 with its low MHz and 533FSB is not what I would call a nice chip, unless you want to OC it. It should be called Celeron dual core, IMHO..

If you want to use MAYA or Photoshop, do yourself a favor.. get at least an 3800+ X2 dualcore or at least a 830/930D intel.

By getting a nice system now, you'll be able to push the july update further and get better product/performance for much better price..
 
I was planning to OC the 805 as I read that an OCed 805 is only outperformed by an OCed 3800+ by about 10%.

On the topic of OC, what chipset / mobo would you recommend?
 
I was planning to OC the 805 as I read that an OCed 805 is only outperformed by an OCed 3800+ by about 10%.

On the topic of OC, what chipset / mobo would you recommend?

Well, In the socket478 area, I would recommend Intel and Asus motherboard, but I stopped recommending/using Intel with Prescott and not willing to do so until I see (don't talk about conroe.. it is still not available, so I don't care) something that will perform good enough without creating heat problem.

The 8xxd serie is one hot(I mean it thermally, not technologically) CPU and I have problem to advise anything for it..

But since you are looking for a temporary one, get the cheaper one you can find and have all the feature you need