Intel And Micron Announce Shipments Of 3D NAND - Op-Ed

[Guest]

Intel and Micron hosted a joint webcast yesterday titled "Intel and Micron - A Strong Partnership" to announce their 3D NAND technology. We take a much closer look at the possibly fractured state of the IMFT union.

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[Kewlx25]

Glad I didn't build an SSD NAS yet. Prices will keep going down. SSDs came out at the perfect time, just as 3D stacking was coming around.

Next big thing, 4GB+ of L4 3D stacked memory on your CPU.

 

[ccampy]

Highly doubtful would be far too large to fit on a cpu

 

[Kewlx25]

The Nvidia GPUs scheduled for next year will have 4GB-8GB of 3D stacked memory on top of the GPU, directly integrated. 1024bit wide, nearly 1TB/s of bandwidth, half the latency of regular system memory. That's more bandwidth than L1 cache on most CPUs, just not less latency.

 

[Guest]

16nm NAND is a bad idea in any case. I don't care how cheap it is, it doesn't last long and is not reliable.

It's cool to see 3d NAND coming from several sources.

 

[Kewlx25]

20nm TLC has 1k write cycles, 20nm 3D has about 10k-35k write cycles depending on the desired performance. 20nm SLC has about 100k cycles.

You can write about 1.5-2.5PB to a 256GB 3D drive before it hits its limit. That's about 8k full drive writes. Once we start seeing 4TB SSDs, even if they drop down to 4k write cycles, you're still talking about 8PB of data written. Plenty for your home user.

 

[none12345]

"The Nvidia GPUs scheduled for next year will have 4GB-8GB of 3D stacked memory on top of the GPU, directly integrated. 1024bit wide, nearly 1TB/s of bandwidth, half the latency of regular system memory. That's more bandwidth than L1 cache on most CPUs, just not less latency. "

The AMD gpus due out very soon, will be the first to have stacked memory on the cpu. We wont have to wait for next year. We will know what kinda performance it brings soon. Dont know when the 3xx series is due. Maybe a month or 2, but not long.

 

[dstarr3]

Honestly, this is the most exciting new technology I've seen coming in a long time. I can't wait to see how this revolutionizes computing.

 

[mdsiu]

First paragraph - "as I am wont to do" WUT?

 

[Lovolt]

First paragraph - "as I am wont to do" WUT?

Perhaps the author majored in English and not texting.

 

[Brian_R170]

"as I am wont to do" = "as I habitually do"

 

[dstarr3]

Wow. I've never come across the word "wont" before. Two years of English lit study be damned.

 

[unityole]

nice article Paul, it was a good read to see what has to come in the future, although 3D NAND still more expensive at this point, power users would probably get them for performance SSD or find these flash in prosumer SSD. I'll be waiting for the 4+ TB for 2.5" SSD though for sure. TLC for sequential read/writes for storage is perfect.

 

[The_Trutherizer]

When I see the name Intel and an announcement of "3D NAND with disruptive cost" - Then my only conclusion can be that they intend to use their billions to sell their flavour below cost to bully competitors out of the playground.

I mean really that is the only possible conclusion. As it was for so many of their CPUs historically and now their Atom series.

But hey.. Albeit a damned shitty way to do business (as far as consumer interests are concerned) I suppose it is still business.

 

[cats_Paw]

I have no Idea what I am reading.

 

[tsnor]

Excellent article. Nice to see really difficult basic technology covered at a reasonable level.