Question Intel Arc A380 with a Ryzen 1700X for video encoding ?

[LLA]

I have and old Ryzen 1700X CPU with a GT 1050 Ti GPU that seems to only encode with VLC with only 2 CPU cores instead of 8. I'm thnking of bringing it back to life with an Arc A380, if they go on sale and was wondering if it would be good for video encoding SD/near HD. Or is the Ryzen 1700X too old for VLC and should I switch to something like Handbrake to use all the cores?

 

[TerryLaze]

Huh?!
If you want to use the CPU for encoding then the GPU doesn't matter at all.

If you want to use the GPU the 1050ti has x.264 hardware support and does the encoding on the GPU, if it does use CPU it's because of some sort of bug in the code the usage on the CPU should be very close to 0%

Yes, you should use handbrake so you can choose a gpu codec and do the encodings on the gpu alone, or use choose cpu encoding and only use the CPU.

Also some codecs are limited on how many threads they can run by the size (dimensions) of the video.

 

[LLA]

Huh?!
If you want to use the CPU for encoding then the GPU doesn't matter at all.

If you want to use the GPU the 1050ti has x.264 hardware support and does the encoding on the GPU, if it does use CPU it's because of some sort of bug in the code the usage on the CPU should be very close to 0%

Yes, you should use handbrake so you can choose a gpu codec and do the encodings on the gpu alone, or use choose cpu encoding and only use the CPU.

Also some codecs are limited on how many threads they can run by the size (dimensions) of the video.

I thought you had to have a graphics cards that supports the codec, like h.264 or AV1 to use the codec. Didn't know you could simply choose CPU processing only and not have to worry about graphics card not having the appropriate codec. Don't suppose you know if Ryzen 1700x (8 cores) will be slower than 1050 Ti for encoding SD/near HD on handbrake for h.264 or AV1, do you? Or can you recommend a CPU only codec for an 8 core processor or is CPU only processing super slow? Was using the actual old h.264 encoding software from their website but it's old and has not been updated for years. It was much faster than VLC and used more than 2 cores for an old Intel Q6600 and Ryzen 1700x. VLC only used 2 cores on old CPU but uses 12 cores for Intel 12700 and was super fast, but I want to use my old rig too.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

One nice thing your ryzen 1700 is on what probably a b350 or x370 board? I’d be willing to guess that if all you’re doing is encoding that you may be able to update the bios and drop a ryzen 5900x(12 core 24 thread) or 5950x 16 core 32 thread iirc) in there. I mentioned the 2 CPUs previously but you could go with an 8 core 5700x. I would guess that wouldn’t be too far behind your i7 box. The extra threads on the other 2 CPUs might even help them more but you’d need to check the power delivery setup on your board.

Don’t know a lot about encoding but if your old pc is a custom build you can likely jump 2-3 generations on your existing board.

 

[LLA]

One nice thing your ryzen 1700 is on what probably a b350 or x370 board? I’d be willing to guess that if all you’re doing is encoding that you may be able to update the bios and drop a ryzen 5900x(12 core 24 thread) or 5950x 16 core 32 thread iirc) in there. I mentioned the 2 CPUs previously but you could go with an 8 core 5700x. I would guess that wouldn’t be too far behind your i7 box. The extra threads on the other 2 CPUs might even help them more but you’d need to check the power delivery setup on your board.

Don’t know a lot about encoding but if your old pc is a custom build you can likely jump 2-3 generations on your existing board.

Yeah, but I already have a new rig. They just came out with new Intel 2nd gen battlemage GPU and read somewhere that Arce A380 was a good cheap encoding with new AV1 support too. Was hoping they would start price dumping gen1 sometime next year and could maybe pick one up super cheap to revitalize an old rig. My question was simply if my issues with VLC or some other encoding software, was due to my graphics card being too old and whether upgrading would allow max use of my CPU cores. Don't want to to shell out a few hundred right now for top performance, but old computer is just sitting around. VLC allows me to use all 12 cores for new 12700kf processor but I'm stuck with 2 cores for older computers even though they have 4 cores and 8 cores respective. Just wasn't sure if old graphics card was the issue. Thanks anyway.

 

[TerryLaze]

Or can you recommend a CPU only codec for an 8 core processor or is CPU only processing super slow?

Everything uses either x264 or h264 (or the 265 variants) one is free the other one licensed, the one handbrake uses is free and is the same codec that everything is using, the only thing that changes is the default settings they use when you don't change anything and just press on encode.
If you are serious about encoding you should learn to use ffmpeg wich is command line only but is what most if not all video software uses in the background, if you learn it you will have the finest control possible over your encodings, overkill for almost all users.
On a modernish CPU 1080p encoding with average quality is real time and faster, on an old quad.... it will be pretty slow.

 

[beyondlogic]

I have and old Ryzen 1700X CPU with a GT 1050 Ti GPU that seems to only encode with VLC with only 2 CPU cores instead of 8. I'm thnking of bringing it back to life with an Arc A380, if they go on sale and was wondering if it would be good for video encoding SD/near HD. Or is the Ryzen 1700X too old for VLC and should I switch to something like Handbrake to use all the cores?

You need at least 3000 series CPU to work arc to enable sam

 

[LLA]

You need at least 3000 series CPU to work arc to enable sam

You mean resize bar? I just googled it. One website said the same thing, another said you could activate on 1700x but with mixed results and may not be worth it. My motherboard has option for resize bar. Though according to previous post above, encoding issue may not be issue with my old video card. I guess I'll play around with handbrake and see if it's more compatible than VLC with old AMD processor. I just checked prices for Arc A380, looks like they're going up not down anyway. LOL!

 

[beyondlogic]

You mean resize bar? I just googled it. One website said the same thing, another said you could activate on 1700x but with mixed results and may not be worth it. My motherboard has option for resize bar. Though according to previous post above, encoding issue may not be issue with my old video card. I guess I'll play around with handbrake and see if it's more compatible than VLC with old AMD processor. I just checked prices for Arc A380, looks like they're going up not down anyway. LOL!

where are you based ? uk etc a380 cards can be found fairly cheap depending on model.

yes sam needs resize bar to work and it really depends on motherboard manufacturer asus got it working on 1000 but that doesnt nessary mean that all vendors will adopt that as offical support is 3000 up

 

[LLA]

where are you based ? uk etc a380 cards can be found fairly cheap depending on model.

yes sam needs resize bar to work and it really depends on motherboard manufacturer asus got it working on 1000 but that doesnt nessary mean that all vendors will adopt that as offical support is 3000 up

I know they aren't technically expensive cards but I already have a new rig and only wanted to spend very little to revitalize old rig. Looks like it would be a waste of money anyway, as processor probably too old. Might be a pipedream to think you might be able to get one on ebay used under $50 next year.

 

[beyondlogic]

I know they aren't technically expensive cards but I already have a new rig and only wanted to spend very little to revitalize old rig. Looks like it would be a waste of money anyway, as processor probably too old. Might be a pipedream to think you might be able to get one on ebay used under $50 next year.

honestly rig isnt that old best revitalising of that rig is to update it with a 5000 series processor. 5600 and above

the performance jump from 1000 to 5000 is wild its noticable.