Question Intel Arc B580 or AMD RX 6750 XT

[Sasitharan]

These are the specs of my PC:

Intel Core i5-11600K Processor
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX
Thermalright PeerlessAssassin120 SEARGB
XPG 1TB GAMMIX S70 Blade
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 850W fully modular
Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL16

My case is Corsair iCue 465X
My monitor is MSI Pro MP273a - 1080p, 100Hz max.

I was planning on getting a Speedster QICK 319 at CAD 430 (USD 300) from my friend in Canada.

I recently heard about the Intel Arc B580 going for CAD 360 (USD 250). Both have the same VRAM and similar performance. I have heard Intel Arc B580 has better ray tracing performance than the RX 6750 XT.

Can you guys recommend which one is better?

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I will say that I owned a 6700xt which is basically the same as the 6750xt, the 6750 xt is effectively slightly overclocked essentially.

That said, the 6700/6750 xt is a fine card but that is a decent price difference if you’re on a budget.

You may not get these exact numbers but this video should give an idea. This video is supposed to be the b580 vs a 6700xt. Keep in mind the 6750xt is slightly faster than the 6700xt.

View: https://youtu.be/L81h5mWG4Zs?feature=shared


Basically the 6750xt was a higher class card, but it’s a generation old, and about to be 2 generations old. Whereas the b580 is a current generation card so I imagine it will have driver support longer although Intel is still relatively new to the gpu arena.

That said you hit one important point, that the Intel looks like it will be better at ray tracing. A lot of folks might say they don’t care about ray tracing which I get, but if you look at the new Indiana Jones game, which is a great game btw. However that game requires ray tracing at a level of a 2060 super/rx 6600. So you can imagine more games might start doing this. In a year or so, do we hit the wall where say the 6750xt can’t hit the game requirements for that reason?

If I were on a budget I think honestly I’d roll the dice on the b580. The price difference you quote is quite a bit.

Keep in mind Intel being newer to the gpu space might mean more driver bugs but the reviews on the b580 have been positive so far. Ultimately it’s your call.

 

[nazsoyo]

I will say that I owned a 6700xt which is basically the same as the 6750xt, the 6750 xt is effectively slightly overclocked essentially.

That said, the 6700/6750 xt is a fine card but that is a decent price difference if you’re on a budget.

You may not get these exact numbers but this video should give an idea. This video is supposed to be the b580 vs a 6700xt. Keep in mind the 6750xt is slightly faster than the 6700xt.

View: https://youtu.be/L81h5mWG4Zs?feature=shared


Basically the 6750xt was a higher class card, but it’s a generation old, and about to be 2 generations old. Whereas the b580 is a current generation card so I imagine it will have driver support longer although Intel is still relatively new to the gpu arena.

That said you hit one important point, that the Intel looks like it will be better at ray tracing. A lot of folks might say they don’t care about ray tracing which I get, but if you look at the new Indiana Jones game, which is a great game btw. However that game requires ray tracing at a level of a 2060 super/rx 6600. So you can imagine more games might start doing this. In a year or so, do we hit the wall where say the 6750xt can’t hit the game requirements for that reason?

If I were on a budget I think honestly I’d roll the dice on the b580. The price difference you quote is quite a bit.

Keep in mind Intel being newer to the gpu space might mean more driver bugs but the reviews on the b580 have been positive so far. Ultimately it’s your call.

I am in the exact same situation as OP, initially i was about to pull the trigger on the B580, but after some research i found both the cards at same price, the B580 is new and has 3 year warranty, the 6700XT (not 6750XT) is used but will have 5 year warranty, the company selling the 6700XT buys and sells items and now has increased their warranty from 2 to 5, they are pretty reliable too.

I've heard that the 6700XT is about 5% faster, but the B580 has less power consumption.

I'm leaning towards the 6700XT because i think the B580 has poor performance in certain games, i don't think it's as consistently good as 6700XT, maybe drivers will improve but this is their second gen of GPU and i'm not so sure about the drivers.

Regarding the ray tracing, maybe what you're saying is true, but i cannot see it happening in a years time, maybe further in the future. It will definitely not be widespread just yet and will probably occur in only a few games, because i think it will hurt game sales.

Also, i will definitely be undervolting my card, on my current 6600 i decreased the wattage from 95W to about 50W average, with about 15% decrease in FPS, which is a good trade off IMO.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Yeah it's totally your call. The 6700xt/6750xt is a faster card but the b580 is newer. As far as ray tracing, I don't know if it will be a year but I think things will eventually move that direction. So it depends how long you plan to keep the card. The b580 is a little slower for sure so you have to decide if your going to trade raw performance for the newer technology and how fast you think that developers will start using newer tech. Indiana Jones required a 2060 super/6600 xt which is only a level or two down from the 6700xt. So if more developers start using it...

Either way the 6700xt is a good card if you get it for the right price. Just a little older now.

 

[Sasitharan]

I will say that I owned a 6700xt which is basically the same as the 6750xt, the 6750 xt is effectively slightly overclocked essentially.

That said, the 6700/6750 xt is a fine card but that is a decent price difference if you’re on a budget.

You may not get these exact numbers but this video should give an idea. This video is supposed to be the b580 vs a 6700xt. Keep in mind the 6750xt is slightly faster than the 6700xt.

View: https://youtu.be/L81h5mWG4Zs?feature=shared


Basically the 6750xt was a higher class card, but it’s a generation old, and about to be 2 generations old. Whereas the b580 is a current generation card so I imagine it will have driver support longer although Intel is still relatively new to the gpu arena.

That said you hit one important point, that the Intel looks like it will be better at ray tracing. A lot of folks might say they don’t care about ray tracing which I get, but if you look at the new Indiana Jones game, which is a great game btw. However that game requires ray tracing at a level of a 2060 super/rx 6600. So you can imagine more games might start doing this. In a year or so, do we hit the wall where say the 6750xt can’t hit the game requirements for that reason?

If I were on a budget I think honestly I’d roll the dice on the b580. The price difference you quote is quite a bit.

Keep in mind Intel being newer to the gpu space might mean more driver bugs but the reviews on the b580 have been positive so far. Ultimately it’s your call.

Hi,

I'm looking at the RX 6650XT as a cheaper alternative (The offer for the RX 6750XT has been removed). Will that be a good alternative for the B580. Also, I will be playing very old games like Skyrim, Batman Arkham series and the full AC series.

 

[Gaidax]

I really would not be wasting my time with a GPU with 2 gen old architecture and used at that, unless it would be a massive improvement over alternative, which it is not in this case.

 

[logainofhades]

I am not so sure a B580 is a great idea, after seeing Hardware Canucks and HUB's recent videos on it. The B580 suffers from quite the driver overhead issue.

 

[triplex1]

Hi,

I'm looking at the RX 6650XT as a cheaper alternative (The offer for the RX 6750XT has been removed). Will that be a good alternative for the B580. Also, I will be playing very old games like Skyrim, Batman Arkham series and the full AC series.

6650xt don't look at all, between 6700xt and 6750xt prefer the 6700xt (depending on which company you find)I have a Sapphire nitro 6700xt oc in my second computer and I can tell you that it is as good as the 6800 I have in the first.If you are looking for price, prefer the b580, it is something in between

 

[nazsoyo]

I am not so sure a B580 is a great idea, after seeing Hardware Canucks and HUB's recent videos on it. The B580 suffers from quite the driver overhead issue.

I took the risk and bought the B580, i mean it was already pre ordered from a few weeks ago and i decided not to cancel it. Hopefully i will not have driver overhead issues in the games i want to play and they also release a fix. If i got a used 6700XT, i will have no warranty and it's old technology.

 

[Gururu]

I am not so sure a B580 is a great idea, after seeing Hardware Canucks and HUB's recent videos on it. The B580 suffers from quite the driver overhead issue.

Yes, be wary of older generation CPUs, which can stifle the b580 quite substantially. Worth to see if your setup might not be able to suit the b580.

 

[beyondlogic]

I took the risk and bought the B580, i mean it was already pre ordered from a few weeks ago and i decided not to cancel it. Hopefully i will not have driver overhead issues in the games i want to play and they also release a fix. If i got a used 6700XT, i will have no warranty and it's old technology.

b580 will be fine it has issues atm but intels track record with the a series was solid updates so i doubt they will leave it at the curb. that and its superior raytracing

 

[beyondlogic]

These are the specs of my PC:

Intel Core i5-11600K Processor
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX
Thermalright PeerlessAssassin120 SEARGB
XPG 1TB GAMMIX S70 Blade
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 850W fully modular
Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL16

My case is Corsair iCue 465X
My monitor is MSI Pro MP273a - 1080p, 100Hz max.

I was planning on getting a Speedster QICK 319 at CAD 430 (USD 300) from my friend in Canada.

I recently heard about the Intel Arc B580 going for CAD 360 (USD 250). Both have the same VRAM and similar performance. I have heard Intel Arc B580 has better ray tracing performance than the RX 6750 XT.

Can you guys recommend which one is better?

if only aiming at 1080p it should be fine. the pros are its newer and more likely to get updates to improve the performance more the 6750 xt is a tapped out and wouldnt be shocked if amd drops support on these cards eventually as they seem to ditch drivers far quicker then nvidia. cant say much for intel but considering the updates come fast and quick enough. amd i find tends to be slower with driver releases.

 

[triplex1]

Those of you who talked about 6750xt probably have no idea what it is, a bloated 6700xt , therefore a waste of money.
A good 6700xt finishes 1080p, does very well in 2k and also stands up well in 4k.
If any of you throw money away every 6 months because new games or new cards come out, they are doing very well since they like it.In no case is an RX6000 an old card as some people say here

 

[logainofhades]

Those of you who talked about 6750xt probably have no idea what it is, a bloated 6700xt , therefore a waste of money.
A good 6700xt finishes 1080p, does very well in 2k and also stands up well in 4k.
If any of you throw money away every 6 months because new games or new cards come out, they are doing very well since they like it.In no case is an RX6000 an old card as some people say here

The 6750xt can be found for less than a vanilla 6700xt, so it is not a waste of money. It is, however, almost 4yrs old. That is old with regards to tech, especially considering it will be 2 generations old soon.

 

[Gaidax]

The 6750xt can be found for less than a vanilla 6700xt, so it is not a waste of money. It is, however, almost 4yrs old. That is old with regards to tech, especially considering it will be 2 generations old soon.

That's the main issue really.

It's a GPU that's much closer to have driver support being put on maintenance mode. People aren't buying GPUs for 2 years, but for a good half a decade.

Will that GPU have as good a driver support as it needs when it's 7-8 years old and ticking? I don't think so.

It's like my 3080Ti, performance-wise it can chug along in 1440p I need for another 5 years easy, but eventually the drivers won't really be there, it's just the reality.

 

[triplex1]

The 6750xt can be found for less than a vanilla 6700xt, so it is not a waste of money. It is, however, almost 4yrs old. That is old with regards to tech, especially considering it will be 2 generations old soon.

If it's cheaper, we agree.
At the moment, the best price is the b580, which is not better, however.
For you, it may be old cards, for others, not, so keep it to yourself and don't keep saying it, are not in here all kids

 

[Gaidax]

For you, it may be old cards, for others, not, so keep it to yourself and don't keep saying it, are not in here all kids

That's some weird take.

Of course, the architecture/GPU age is a factor when someone wants to weigh the similar options and have the full picture. What kind of weird take is this to demand people to not bring that point up?

 

[triplex1]

That's some weird take.

Of course, the architecture/GPU age is a factor when someone wants to weigh the similar options and have the full picture. What kind of weird take is this to demand people to not bring that point up?

His job is different here and not to impose his own ideas on the world.There are people on the planet who don't have computers, not just cards like the ones we're talking about.....I think I've made myself understood now and I'm not demanding anything from anyone.

 

[beyondlogic]

If it's cheaper, we agree.
At the moment, the best price is the b580, which is not better, however.
For you, it may be old cards, for others, not, so keep it to yourself and don't keep saying it, are not in here all kids

card is 4 years old.

for context amds last gen polaris dropped support for it 2023 when it came out in 2017. so 6 years of support and the cards history.

instead of supporting gcn last line up they ditched it even when making new parts thats still use gcn lol.

 

[triplex1]

card is 4 years old.

for context amds last gen polaris dropped support for it 2023 when it came out in 2017. so 6 years of support and the cards history.

instead of supporting gcn last line up they ditched it even when making new parts thats still use gcn lol.

I believe you understood earlier that I said the b580 is actually cheaper and it's new, the whole point is what exactly the buyer wants and how much money he has in his pocket.

 

[Gaidax]

His job is different here and not to impose his own ideas on the world.There are people on the planet who don't have computers, not just cards like the ones we're talking about.....I think I've made myself understood now and I'm not demanding anything from anyone.

I'm sorry, but you literally make 0 sense.

The card is 4 years old AND literally tomorrow it will be 2 generations old. Pointing that out is not "his own ideas" - it's a literal fact.

Active driver support potentially being dropped in a few years in IS a consideration to be taken into account here. I'm not sure why this triggers you so much.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Agreed. Look I get you like your 6700xt and want to justify the purchase. However it is now 2 generations old and at some point they will drop driver support. If you’re going to buy one of those cards just understand what you’re buying. Not that a 6700xt or 6750xt is a bad card, but they will get to their end of life before the Intel card.