News Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake CPU Spotted Boosting to 5.3 GHz

[mpdugas]

0nm has been delayed due to lack of substance.

Awesome! You win the thread!

 

[spongiemaster]

Well those are valids points but, but they are just reactions to what AMD did, nothing of that mean they give a sh##$$% about consumers. Thier sudden price drop is a prove of that, they been overpricing cpus for years.
And users that have been holding to their old intel cpus (core i3 and core i5) is not cause theres nothing new and worth it to jump onto, but cause they really don't have a reason to do the jump, thier current CPU is enough for the task they do with the PC.

AMD doesn't care about consumers either. This notion that any of the giant tech companies see consumers as anything but a source of revenue is stupid. All of them would screw consumers the first chance they could get if it means more revenue and money in their pockets.

Intel prices cuts were a marketing stunt. Intel made a big deal about the performance increase per $ with the Cascade Lake X announcement on October 1st. Three and a half months later, where are they? You can't find them any where because Intel had ZERO interest in selling CPU's for half the price they were the month before. Intel has basically abandoned their HEDT platform this round and decided not to sell it any more which I'm sure makes their motherboard partners happy. Gamer Nexus reported recently on huge stocks of X299 motherboards that manufacturers couldn't get rid of, so you know the absence of 10 series availability isn't because of overwhelming demand.

 

[bit_user]

Intel prices cuts were a marketing stunt. Intel made a big deal about the performance increase per $ with the Cascade Lake X announcement on October 1st. Three and a half months later, where are they? You can't find them any where because Intel had ZERO interest in selling CPU's for half the price they were the month before. Intel has basically abandoned their HEDT platform this round and decided not to sell it any more which I'm sure makes their motherboard partners happy.

Well, Intel recently warned about Cascade Lake availability. I'm not finding that article, but anyway, perhaps that was because they were busy ramping up production of some refreshes:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...yc-rome-with-cascade-lake-xeon-refresh-report

We'll have to see what pricing on these is like, to know whether the cuts on Cascade Lake were truly just a marketing stunt.

Anyway, your judgement might be too hasty.

 

[spongiemaster]

Well, Intel recently warned about Cascade Lake availability. I'm not finding that article, but anyway, perhaps that was because they were busy ramping up production of some refreshes:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...yc-rome-with-cascade-lake-xeon-refresh-report

We'll have to see what pricing on these is like, to know whether the cuts on Cascade Lake were truly just a marketing stunt.

Anyway, your judgement might be too hasty.

Almost 2 months later. Still waiting...

 

[bit_user]

Almost 2 months later. Still waiting...

Waiting for what? To find which CPUs, exactly?

With supply-chain and demand turmoil, it's really hard to read anything strategic into that, right now. But, if OEMs and boutique workstation vendors are still accepting orders for systems with these chips, then I don't think you can say they can't be found anywhere.

 

[spongiemaster]

Waiting for what? To find which CPUs, exactly?

With supply-chain and demand turmoil, it's really hard to read anything strategic into that, right now. But, if OEMs and boutique workstation vendors are still accepting orders for systems with these chips, then I don't think you can say they can't be found anywhere.

Intel's Fabs are in Arizona, Oregon, and Israel. None of those are near China. 10 series HEDT chips are not missing in action since their launch last November because the last few weeks of Covid-19 chaos.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Intel's Fabs are in Arizona, Oregon, and Israel. None of those are near China. 10 series HEDT chips are not missing in action since their launch last November because the last few weeks of Covid-19 chaos.

No but they do have more assembly sites outside of the US than they do in and that can easily cause delays. Most Intel CPUs I have ever bought typically show Costa Rica or Malaysia for the assembly location even though I have lived in southern Arizona (and now Chandler) the majority of my life. I would think it would be cheaper to FAB, test and assemble chips for this region in Chandler and ship them to the US rather than FAB them here, ship them to a much further away country for testing, assembly and retail packaging but its what they probably do.

That means supplies can be heavily weakened especially since other countries can much more easily go into nation wide lockdown than here in the US, our freedoms and rights have made us stubborn to being controlled.

 

[bit_user]

No but they do have more assembly sites outside of the US than they do in and that can easily cause delays.

Not only that, but the fabs and assembly plants can't necessarily get all of the upstream supplies that they need.

Also, there are shipping delays, as container ships are being quarantined, in various ports.

 

[bit_user]

Intel's Fabs are in Arizona, Oregon, and Israel. None of those are near China. 10 series HEDT chips are not missing in action since their launch last November because the last few weeks of Covid-19 chaos.

Aside from Jimmy's points, you're also looking just at the supply side of the equation. Right now, there's also increased demand for things like workstations.

And you didn't say where you're trying to find these products. Intel has been weird about availability of certain SKUs, lately. Take the Xeon E-2288G - it was available through certain OEMs nearly a year ago, but only showed up in retail channels at the end of last year.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Aside from Jimmy's points, you're also looking just at the supply side of the equation. Right now, there's also increased demand for things like workstations.

And you didn't say where you're trying to find these products. Intel has been weird about availability of certain SKUs, lately. Take the Xeon E-2288G - it was available through certain OEMs nearly a year ago, but only showed up in retail channels at the end of last year.

Most business level systems are back ordered right now even with Dell cutting old product lines and introducing newer ones. This has really shaken up IT work heavily.

 

[spongiemaster]

No but they do have more assembly sites outside of the US than they do in and that can easily cause delays. Most Intel CPUs I have ever bought typically show Costa Rica or Malaysia for the assembly location even though I have lived in southern Arizona (and now Chandler) the majority of my life. I would think it would be cheaper to FAB, test and assemble chips for this region in Chandler and ship them to the US rather than FAB them here, ship them to a much further away country for testing, assembly and retail packaging but its what they probably do.

That means supplies can be heavily weakened especially since other countries can much more easily go into nation wide lockdown than here in the US, our freedoms and rights have made us stubborn to being controlled.

Costa Rica and Malaysia, two more Covid-19 hotbeds with their combined 65 deaths. Both Intel and AMD released official statements that their chip supplies were fine. So unless you have insider knowledge that those were lies it's not relevant to the point anyway.

I'm not talking about a single CPU, we're talking about the entire HEDT lineup being missing in action since launch in November. Intel was having worse supply issues a year ago when they released the Sky Lake X refresh and they were still available at major retailers within a month or two of launch. This is just another Sky-Lake X refresh, it isn't a new node or major new architecture. Intel should have no problem producing these.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Costa Rica and Malaysia, two more Covid-19 hotbeds with their combined 65 deaths. Both Intel and AMD released official statements that their chip supplies were fine. So unless you have insider knowledge that those were lies it's not relevant to the point anyway.

I'm not talking about a single CPU, we're talking about the entire HEDT lineup being missing in action since launch in November. Intel was having worse supply issues a year ago when they released the Sky Lake X refresh and they were still available at major retailers within a month or two of launch. This is just another Sky-Lake X refresh, it isn't a new node or major new architecture. Intel should have no problem producing these.

And I am talking about the fact that both of those countries tend to have well more control over their populace than here in the US.

I am not saying their chip supplies are bad or out of control but they will probably have some issues at some point. A lot of countries are in total lock downs well beyond even some of the strictest US states.

 

[bit_user]

Costa Rica and Malaysia, two more Covid-19 hotbeds with their combined 65 deaths. Both Intel and AMD released official statements that their chip supplies were fine. So unless you have insider knowledge that those were lies it's not relevant to the point anyway.

Those were just examples, and I think none of us knows exactly where the assembly for the concerned CPUs is done. I think you're missing the forest for the trees, here. The point about supply-chain disruption was that it just puts one more variable in the mix, when trying to figure out exactly what's going on with availability of those CPUs. Maybe you're right, but these things just make it harder to figure out.

And the fact that you're not being specific about which CPU models you're looking for just adds to the feeling that you're simply trying to win an internet argument, rather than figure out what's really going on and how one can get a hold of those chips. If you were more specific, then perhaps we could be of more help.

 

[spongiemaster]

And the fact that you're not being specific about which CPU models you're looking for just adds to the feeling that you're simply trying to win an internet argument, rather than figure out what's really going on and how one can get a hold of those chips. If you were more specific, then perhaps we could be of more help.

Pot calling the kettle black. There is literally no one on this forum who should be accusing others of arguing for the sake of arguing less than you.

 

[bit_user]

Pot calling the kettle black. There is literally no one on this forum who should be accusing others of arguing for the sake of arguing less than you.

Just because I call BS when I see it doesn't mean I argue for the sake of arguing. I'm sorry you can't seem to see the distinction.

In point of fact, I was trying to turn the exchange in a constructive direction, but you've removed all doubt that you're here only to whine & complain, and don't actually want help. If you're not here for any constructive purpose, maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

Looking at your post history, all I see is an endless spew of negativity. I feel sad for you, man.

 

[spongiemaster]

Just because I call BS when I see it doesn't mean I argue for the sake of arguing. I'm sorry you can't seem to see the distinction.

In point of fact, I was trying to turn the exchange in a constructive direction, but you've removed all doubt that you're here only to whine & complain, and don't actually want help. If you're not here for any constructive purpose, maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

Looking at your post history, all I see is an endless spew of negativity. I feel sad for you, man.

You spent the time to search through the history of a poster just to insult them about being negative? Is the hypocrisy of that action really lost on you? If negativity is so offensive to you, how about you set an example of positivity for us instead of going so far out of your way to escalate the negativity?