News Intel Core i7 13700T Raptor Lake Allegedly Beats Ryzen 7 5800X at 35W

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It beats the 105W 5800X, but not at 35W. Come on, it's obvious it uses up more than that. Maybe not 100W but way more than 35W. It's still a nice score, really, but remember the 5800X uses ~140W to match the 12700X at ~250W. How will it compare to the Ryzen 7800X?
 

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It is rated at 35W at base clock, all cores blazing away which is a very unlikely scenario. It will be able to boost well past that for short durations but also keep the clocks up at single core loads. You can achieve nearly the same by putting a harsh power limit on any CPU really.

Efficiency wise there isn't a huge gap between Intel and AMD now. When reasonable wattages are forced they perform similarly core for core. When you toss the efficiency cores into the mix Intel starts to pull ahead and that is clearly their goal at the moment. 7000 chips should take the crown from Intel, but doubling the efficiency cores for Raptor Lake will have an interesting impact on multi-core loads.
 

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Who would buy this now. Wait two weeks and buy a Zen4 that matches or beats the equivalent Intel part and crushes it in power efficiency.
As an example, the 7950 is "Up To 74% Faster Performance at 65W" than the 5950. Expect similar gains for other Zen 4 part at correspondingly lower powers.
 

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It's clear that people really don't understand what TDP is and it's sad because it literally says thermal in the name (Thermal Design Point). It's not power consumption... SMH.
 
Who would buy this now. Wait two weeks and buy a Zen4 that matches or beats the equivalent Intel part and crushes it in power efficiency.
As an example, the 7950 is "Up To 74% Faster Performance at 65W" than the 5950. Expect similar gains for other Zen 4 part at correspondingly lower powers.
The problem with that math is that nobody has ever benchmarked a 5950x at a locked down 65W.
All the benches are with the 5950x using 120-140W, so we have no real idea how high the real difference is going to be.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16214/amd-zen-3-ryzen-deep-dive-review-5950x-5900x-5800x-and-5700x-tested/8
 

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Intel's new yet to be released chip is AMD's current chip, hardly a surprise.
It's Tom's Hardware. It wouldn't be Tom's Hardware if they weren't busy stacking the deck for Intel. It's been this way, pretty much non-stop, for the 25 years I've been reading this site. And probably 15 out of those 25 years, it made sense. But the other 10? Yeah, no.
 
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Well, was about time to beat AMD at lower power, no? XD

The 5800X has been in the market for close to 2 years now, so Intel catching up is good news. All I can say is: it was about time.

Now, let's see how they fare with the Zen4 siblings, specially in mobile, since (if you click on my notebook sig, top one), my 5900HX is basically faster than the stock 5800X at a lower wattage as well. Well, realistically speaking, the max power draw of the 5900HX is 65W (IIRC) and the 5800X is 142W, but I do get really close in performance.

Regards.
 

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I have a i5-1035G4 (15w TDP) in my laptop that is "configurable" up to 25w, yet also runs at 35w regularly when in performance mode (HP Spectre x360 13"). It definitely gets toasty enough that I tore it down to upgrade the thermal paste, almost put liquid metal but then that would make it run at 35w all the time and the exhaust port would get HOT. I know, because that's what I did on my old laptop 😉

Now it's a comfortable balance of pretty warm exhaust and cooler deck with much better turbo on the CPU 😁

Point is!! Seriously doubt that i7-13700t is actually running at 35w all the time. But I'm very sure it can also be very efficient when not pushed, Intel has always been surprisingly good at idle/low clocks. I wouldn't mind if my next laptop had a Raptor Lake CPU, I'm a bit of a fanboy but I won't pass up a better PC for the name on it
 

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