News Intel Core i9-14900K Beats AMD Ryzen 7950X3D in Leaked ‘Official’ Slide

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Intel’s new consumer flagship CPU may usurp AMD’s 7950X3D as gaming champ, but the victory could be a narrow one if this leak is genuine.

Intel Core i9-14900K Beats AMD Ryzen 7950X3D in Leaked ‘Official’ Slide : Read more

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

So Intel’s new flagship is 3% faster than AMD’s second fastest gaming chip. So if all you do is game, 7800x3d is still the fastest.

 

[domih]

Go at it dear friends. I'm ready with the popcorn .

 

[TerryLaze]

the following games are notably better on AMD: Dota2, Fortnite, Cyberpunk 2077...
...
Again, remember that if these results are genuine, they are cherry-picked by Intel to show its new processor in a good light.

So they cherry-picked games that are slower on their CPU?!
Do you even english, brah?!

So Intel’s new flagship is 3% faster than AMD’s second fastest gaming chip. So if all you do is game, 7800x3d is still the fastest.

Usually these type of graphs are at stock clocks, actual stock and not whatever heavy overclock the mobo does, so final results could be very different.
On the other hand all results we know are also overclocked so final results might be pretty much the same.
We will wait and we will see.

 

[kiniku]

Turn up the clock speeds and require an even more powerful cooler to compensate for it. Innovative improvement! I'll still take an AMD CPU that isn't a space heater. Alder Lake was cool in some ways. Now, Hell Lake is getting a bit old.

 

[NinoPino]

So Intel’s new flagship is 3% faster than AMD’s second fastest gaming chip. So if all you do is game, 7800x3d is still the fastest.

And without considering the power draw.

 

[Amdlova]

Impressive how intel can beat amd with ++++++ cpu revision new Amd take a plus revision.
This is 10nm++++ node?

 

[Brian D Smith]

New gen beats current gen...just as the next AMD release will beat this. It's just normal leap-frog.

 

[Zerk2012]

It really doesn't even matter when both even last generations give very close performance.
One CPU gets 200 FPS in game X the other 190 who would really care.

Your always going to have people that buy AMD and people that buy Intel.
Then the people that look at the overall cost of the platform, energy use, and upgrade ability.

 

[PCWarrior]

So Intel’s new flagship is 3% faster than AMD’s second fastest gaming chip. So if all you do is game, 7800x3d is still the fastest.

The 7950X3D has higher clock speeds than the 7800X3D so in several games it is faster. Also the 7950X3D can be turned into a 7800X3D by disabling the second chiplet. Also comparing the 7800X3D to the 14900K is comparing apples to oranges. Only the 7950X3D can be compared because it is the only one that has comparable productivity performance. The 7800X3D is a one trick pony and even worse than the 7700X in productivity.

Intel is being honest here by showing a range of games including those not favouring them. They could just show the games where they are wining by over 20%. By the way that is in stark contrast to AMD that always picks the most favourable gaming benchmarks and just throw a couple of ties or minor losses just to masquerade their shenanigans. And speaking of benchmarks in general do you remember AMD demoing Cinebench? Once they lost the crown in Cinebench the benchmark disappeared from their demos and it's importance or relevance is downplayed by the fanboys.

And without considering the power draw.

Intel's power draw is generally lower in actual usage due to the much lower idle power draw as well as the lower light workload power draw. Also in gaming the difference in power between Intel and AMD is only 5-10% higher when you consider total system power usage from the wall.

 

[ilukey77]

Brute forcing charts isnt great if its takes a power station to power it and a cars turbo intercooler to cool the damn thing ..
for gaming the 7800x3d is still the best , cheapest, most efficient cpu around !!

Still not sure why Intel are releasing 14th ..

I get the 14700k being as its a jump from the previous i7 but the 14900k is out right stupid when arguably the 13900k is the best over CPU right now are they not just killing their own market ..

the 14700 makes sense for a last hurrah in the LGA1700 platform but everything else is silly !!

seriously not sure there is a big market for another what 1100aud ( whatever it is in USD ) CPU in a near dead platform only to be beaten by the ZEN5 8000 series a few months later !!

A smarter intel option has always been to forget 14th start a new platform with 15th ( called the 14th ) and run it for 3 to 4 gens of cpu's !!

Its almost at this point WTF is intel thinking !!

that is what made ( despite the somewhat over hype ) 5800x3d the almost perfect placed and released cpu as a last hurrah for the AM4 platform traded blows with intels 12900k and was cheaper ..
no need to call it something different no need to release a whole range of X3d cpu 's just the 5800x3d ..

Im not sure i can call the 5600x3d as anything more than low numbered rejected 5800x3d's and a way for AMD to sell their junk basically !!

 

[phxrider]

Now for the real question.... how much does it really matter if you don't game at 1080p with a high end CPU and a 4090, which seems like a huge waste of money to me unless you're a professional twitch gamer and there's money on the line... Just sayin', if I'm spending for enough GPU to outpace a high end CPU, I'm playing at 4K. I have a 7900xtx and I think the CPU difference at 4K is probably zero even with that beast.

 

[NinoPino]

... Only the 7950X3D can be compared because it is the only one that has comparable productivity performance. ...

But in this case Intel choose to do a game only comparision that implicitly means "Intel is 3% more performant in games". Imho the right choice is 7800X3D.

...By the way that is in stark contrast to AMD that always picks the most favourable gaming benchmarks and just throw a couple of ties or minor losses just to masquerade their shenanigans. And speaking of benchmarks in general do you remember AMD demoing Cinebench?

Intel's power draw is generally lower in actual usage due to the much lower idle power draw as well as the lower light workload power draw.

This is a nonsense, you are stating that the buyers of a 14900 (a monster), and if they play also a 4070/80/90, leave the PC idle most of the time ? In this case they choose the wrong setup. Personally when I play games I power on my PC, play for some hours than power off. Not so much idle.

Also in gaming the difference in power between Intel and AMD is only 5-10% higher when you consider total system power usage from the wall.

It 's true but we are talking of CPUs, not the full PC. If so lets consider also the monitor, mouse, keyboard, switch, router, UPS, printer and so on ?

 

[TerryLaze]

Still not sure why Intel are releasing 14th ..

seriously not sure there is a big market for another what 1100aud ( whatever it is in USD ) CPU in a near dead platform only to be beaten by the ZEN5 8000 series a few months later !!

There will be a new toy around for the holiday season where most people spend their money...
Instead of spending their money on older CPUs they get the newer one with a few Mhz more.

Do you have the release date for ZEN 5, other than 2024?!
If it comes out this time next year, for the holiday season since that's the smartest thing to do, then it's not just a few months, it's a whole generation worth of time...

 

[ilukey77]

There will be a new toy around for the holiday season where most people spend their money...
Instead of spending their money on older CPUs they get the newer one with a few Mhz more.

Do you have the release date for ZEN 5, other than 2024?!
If it comes out this time next year, for the holiday season since that's the smartest thing to do, then it's not just a few months, it's a whole generation worth of time...

yeah but whats its market really ??

selling to cashed up idiots who want to waste money for the fun of it ??

Is there really a market to move many units for that reason ??

Im not saying that people cant buy what they want but everything is stacked against it selling any type of decent volume on a soon to be dead platform with small gains over 13th so it winds up e waste at best..

I have no idea what the Zen 5 release date is but at a BIG ( smart guess ) its better to follow close after 14th's release to shut down Intel again ..

AMD have the market in the palm of their hand with cpu's they are not going to wait for a year before they release ZEN 5 they will counter 14th ASAP it just makes smart business sense to do so !!

I predict AMD will release ZEN 5 late this year or early 2024 but start announcing stuff at the very least around the time 14th drops ..

AMD would be stupid not to !!

Hell from just these forums and looking at peoples signatures alot if not a majority of ppl are still running old cpu's and gpus because
A. disposable income
B. their current system is doing good enough for their purposes !!

Even if you put me in the group of cashed up idiots i still see value in life span and saving a $ !!

 

[TerryLaze]

yeah but whats its market really ??

selling to cashed up idiots who want to waste money for the fun of it ??

Is there really a market to move many units for that reason ??

Im not saying that people cant buy what they want but everything is stacked against it selling any type of decent volume on a soon to be dead platform with small gains over 13th so it winds up e waste at best..

People are born every day and someone is building their first PC every day...
And also people keep their system for 4-5years so it doesn't matter if the platform is dead or not, if you get the CPU you need today you will be able to keep the system for at least 4-5 years and you will be able to change GPU mem storage and whatever else.
Everybody that was saving up money all year is going to spend it on something in the holidays and people that will spend it on PCs will want to get something new.

Hell from just these forums and looking at peoples signatures alot if not a majority of ppl are still running old cpu's and gpus because
A. disposable income
B. their current system is doing good enough for their purposes !!

Exactly!

I have no idea what the Zen 5 release date is but at a BIG ( smart guess ) its better to follow close after 14th's release to shut down Intel again ..

AMD have the market in the palm of their hand with cpu's they are not going to wait for a year before they release ZEN 5 they will counter 14th ASAP it just makes smart business sense to do so !!

I predict AMD will release ZEN 5 late this year or early 2024 but start announcing stuff at the very least around the time 14th drops ..

AMD would be stupid not to !!

Yes,if it were up to AMD that would be the smart thing to do, but they would also have leaks for their upcoming products like intel had for plenty of months now but there is absolutely zero. AMD can't just make their CPUs whenever they want to, they depend on TSMC and can only get their CPUs made if TSMC is ready. We would have seen something more than just roadmaps if the new zen gen would have been ready to go.

 

[ilukey77]

People are born every day and someone is building their first PC every day...
And also people keep their system for 4-5years so it doesn't matter if the platform is dead or not, if you get the CPU you need today you will be able to keep the system for at least 4-5 years and you will be able to change GPU mem storage and whatever else.
Everybody that was saving up money all year is going to spend it on something in the holidays and people that will spend it on PCs will want to get something new.

Agreed but i think spending that money on intel is a waste now i would rather see people wait till 15th or spend their hard earned money on something with some life span and options !!

Which is exactly what AMD is i dont think AM5 is a waste of money at all for any new builder is far better than Intel ..
if your sporting a LGA1700 socket now and want to spend money then go a 14700k sure because its looks like the best of the bunch for solid uplifts over the 13700k..

But once again for a new build Intel is a bad investment in my opinion..

I could guess at a % game of who buys what and still be off im sure but you would figure most people looking at the 14th are LGA1700 owners that want to splash cash but that % must be smaller over people sticking with there current 12th or 13th gen then the % of AMD users then a high % of people still sporting old old school intel or AM4 platforms !!

so i still stick with my argument ( as such ) there cant be a big number of people looking at 14th as a refresh on a almost dead platform and even less looking at a new 14th build !!

 

[TerryLaze]

Agreed but i think spending that money on intel is a waste now i would rather see people wait till 15th or spend their hard earned money on something with some life span and options !!

There is not one single person that needs a PC now that will wait 12 months to get a PC...unless they have to save up for it in which case they wouldn't buy it now anyway.

Which is exactly what AMD is i dont think AM5 is a waste of money at all for any new builder is far better than Intel ..

Why?! For the life span?! What is your reasoning here?! If your point is that you will spend a lot of money now so that you will have to spend even more money in 1-2 years to get a new CPU then that is the most wasteful thing ever
You already made the argument that people don't have money and don't upgrade often.
If you are going to upgrade zen 5 in 4-5 years then you will go for a completely new system anyway because everything else will have advanced so much that it won't be worth it to keep the old mobo.

Hell from just these forums and looking at peoples signatures alot if not a majority of ppl are still running old cpu's and gpus because
A. disposable income
B. their current system is doing good enough for their purposes !!

But once again for a new build Intel is a bad investment in my opinion..

Sure, if you are trained by AMD to buy a new $5-700 CPU every year then it's stupid to buy an intel system and have it work for 4-5 years with the same CPU, even though you noticed yourself that that's what most people do.

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

The 7950X3D has higher clock speeds than the 7800X3D so in several games it is faster. Also the 7950X3D can be turned into a 7800X3D by disabling the second chiplet. Also comparing the 7800X3D to the 14900K is comparing apples to oranges. Only the 7950X3D can be compared because it is the only one that has comparable productivity performance. The 7800X3D is a one trick pony and even worse than the 7700X in productivity.

Intel is being honest here by showing a range of games including those not favouring them. They could just show the games where they are wining by over 20%. By the way that is in stark contrast to AMD that always picks the most favourable gaming benchmarks and just throw a couple of ties or minor losses just to masquerade their shenanigans. And speaking of benchmarks in general do you remember AMD demoing Cinebench? Once they lost the crown in Cinebench the benchmark disappeared from their demos and it's importance or relevance is downplayed by the fanboys.

Intel's power draw is generally lower in actual usage due to the much lower idle power draw as well as the lower light workload power draw. Also in gaming the difference in power between Intel and AMD is only 5-10% higher when you consider total system power usage from the wall.

Yes, that is why I stipulated that “if all you do is game, then the 7800x3d is still the fastest”

 

[Brian D Smith]

But Computerbase>CPU is saying that the i9-14900K is SLOWER than the AMD Rysen 7 5800X3D so....