Intel Debuts New Atom System-on-Chip Processor

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So, I see the clockspeed isn't getting any faster, and I haven't heard of any architectural changes to the Atom core, so.... are these any faster than the Atoms of 2 years ago? I guess they're going after the tablet market, where they feel their old Atom can compete with ARM.
 

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This has been bugging me for some time now: what's the difference between a soc and amd's apu? They they say the apu is a fully intergrated gpu but it still looks like a soc to me. Am I missing something? Tom's can you guys do an article on the differences between amd's upcoming apu, the cell processor and soc architectures like arm.
 

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[citation][nom]knownballer[/nom]This has been bugging me for some time now: what's the difference between a soc and amd's apu? They they say the apu is a fully intergrated gpu but it still looks like a soc to me. Am I missing something? Tom's can you guys do an article on the differences between amd's upcoming apu, the cell processor and soc architectures like arm.[/citation]

Agreed, I second this, I would really like to know the fundamental difference.
 
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SoC is somewhat nebulous. It just means it's a highly integrated chip with 3-4 or more of CPU, GPU, 3D acceleration, video decode/encode, IO (USB, PCI, and/or other), RAM, ROM, etc... I think to really be considered a SoC you would want at least CPU, GPU, ROM, and IO.
 
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erm come on peeps, system on a chip is what it sounds like, it more or less a complete system on a chip with the memory/external storage/bus connector/CPU/display functions integrated into a single package for instance with a SoC you can wire connection from the chip directly to a USB port without the need for a controller board inbetween

an APU is just another way to addressee an integrated CPU and GPU, it allows you to ask the APU to do something and let the chip decide whether to offload to GPGPU or CPU
 

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Quite power hungry SoC when compared to the sub-1W of Tegra 2 and other upcoming ARM multicore cortex9 design. But at least it's getting there.
 

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Well ultimately it should lead to more affordable electronics, but since the netbook segment is already saturated the resulting -- lighter / thinner / longer battery life -- netbooks will most likely cost more; however, The Tablet market is still growing.
 

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The target of bobcat is somewhat different than these as that has TDP of 9W as the lowest. These are targeted at taking some a piece of market share from the all-dominating ARM chips in this segment but they still use far too much power for being successful at that.
 

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I can't understand why they're still marketing atoms. From the very first atom years ago the performance was less in power/watt than their core2's, and were overall slow. Terribly slow. 2 years later there are such minute performance increases you'd think there was an ulterior motive. Intel is the leading CPU manufacturer in the world. you would think they could make something newer and better by now.
 

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[citation][nom]cyrusfox[/nom]Agreed, I second this, I would really like to know the fundamental difference.[/citation]

To add more confusion, the next step after APU might be ClPU (Cloud Processing Unit). LOL
 

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[citation][nom]saturnus[/nom]The target of bobcat is somewhat different than these as that has TDP of 9W as the lowest. These are targeted at taking some a piece of market share from the all-dominating ARM chips in this segment but they still use far too much power for being successful at that.[/citation]
you are wrong, bobcat cores are in the 18TDP zacate APU, bobcat cores are going to be used in the Bulldozer also i beleive, the llano will include redesigned Phenom II CPUS to compete with the note book market, the phenom II would own the Core i7M in notebooks
 
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I wonder which companies are going to create a platform upgradeable with multi N550 processors?
 

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[citation][nom]lashton[/nom]you are wrong, bobcat cores are in the 18TDP zacate APU, bobcat cores are going to be used in the Bulldozer also i beleive, the llano will include redesigned Phenom II CPUS to compete with the note book market, the phenom II would own the Core i7M in notebooks[/citation]

No. Bobcat will come in two flavours, Ontario and Zacate, both are based on the same bobcat core design and will be 9W TDP and 18W TDP respectively.

The Llano is the Phemon III upgrade with a built-in mid-level GPU. Bulldozer is a completely reworked cpu, designed to compete with iCore7s and above.
 

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So my guess is bobcat is gonna crush this in performance, but this blows it out of the water as far as power consumption. But at this energy envelope, i think id rather have the extra performance instead.
 

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The atom is still not impressive. ARM has the market locked, and intel isn`t making enough progress. Especially with the new a15 coming down the pipeline, intel loses at RISC.
 
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