Intel E8200 will not post but Smithfield will post on the same board

[R53843]

It seems that I will have to face the need to change my Motherboard. For the E8200 has anyone suggesions as to good board? Earlier it was suggested that the MB was crucial so I decided to ask before I buy. I do not need a rade board because I have a 3ware card. Good graphics for watching videos would be great.

 

[Shadow703793]

P35-DS3L with a 8400GS or other cheap graphics, but not too cheap though (if you game get a 8800GS/9600,etc or better)

 

[Mondoman]

Yes, the GA-P35-DS3L is a great "no-frills" choice.

 

[R53843]

I have to be careful because I use Ubuntu linux and the video drivers can be a problem. Is it OK for Ubuntu with a dual screen?

 

[yomamafor1]

....MSI P6N SLI is based on 650i chipset, which does not support any 45nm CPUs.

EDIT: Am I really missing something here?

 

[R53843]

Yomamafori

Can you please explain the implications of your comment. My upgrade cpu is the E8200. Are you really talking about the board not being suitable for the next generation cpu? Your note that you may be missing something but I am not knowledgeable to understand its implications.

R

 

[R53843]

"Yomamafori

Can you please explain the implications of your comment. My upgrade cpu is the E8200. Are you really talking about the board not being suitable for the next generation cpu? Your note that you may be missing something but I am not knowledgeable to understand its implications. "


I have reread your comment and do understand your comment. I misunderstood the reference to the boards as I had been asking for a recommendation for a new board.

According to the MSI website the P6N SLI with v2.5 bios works with the E8200.

R

 

[R53843]

Shadow:

My current graphics card is the GeForce 7600. Will I notice a big change if I upgrade to the 8400. In other words should I save my money and keep the existing card? I do not game.

 

[Shadow703793]

NO!!!!!Don't "downgrade" to the 8400GS. I just gave the 8400GS thinking you had a AGP card. The 8400GS (unless OCed to hell) is lower than the 7600.

8400=Lower end of the 8000 cards.
7600= mid range of 7000 cards.

 

[R53843]

Thank you for your reply. I had no idea of the comparative status of the two cards.

 

[R53843]

I bought the GA -P35C-DS3R and am pleased to report that it had no difficulties with the E8200. A couple of points arise:

1. I have two sets of memory with different ratings, not in MHZ but one pair is 4-4-4-15 and the other pair is 5-5-5-12. Are there any bios settings I should adjust for this combination of memory?

2. I am having a problem with my 3ware raid drive not always being recognised. Is this an experience others are having?

3. Any advice on tweaking the bios, that works with this cpu would be appreciated, as I am not noticing much of a speed increase over the smithfield.

Robin

 

[Shadow703793]

Q1: Hit <Ctrl>+ <F1> to access timing settings under M.I.T. I would run those at 5-5-5-12.

Q3.See:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tomshardwareus.inc&cat=29&post=245679&page=1&p=1&sondage=0&owntopic=3&trash=0&trash_post=0&print=0&numreponse=0&quote_only=0&new=0&nojs=0
for OCing option details. It is specifically written for the DS3L but most if not all settings should be same/smiler.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Shoulda bought a 780G. Sounds like Intel needs to get their mobo makers in line

 

[Mondoman]

I have to be careful because I use Ubuntu linux and the video drivers can be a problem. Is it OK for Ubuntu with a dual screen?

I think the new version of Ubuntu (Hardy Heron?) has improved support for dual monitors. I run Gutsy Gibbon just fine on my GA-P35-DS3P.

 

[R53843]

Thanks everyone for your help.

R

 

[R53843]

I am wondering which of the following match the E8200. Could someone point me to the correct version to download:

swiftdove-2.0.0.14_05-05-08_athlon-xp_7.10-8.04.tar.gz Mirror 11480392 2 i386 .gz
swiftdove-2.0.0.14_05-05-08_pentium-3m_7.10-8.04.tar.gz Mirror 11686733 0 i386 .gz
swiftdove-2.0.0.14_05-05-08_pentium-4_7.10-8.04.tar.gz Mirror 11034066 8 i386 .gz
swiftdove-2.0.0.14_05-05-08_pentium-4m_7.10-8.04.tar.gz Mirror 11032930 1 i386 .gz
swiftdove-2.0.0.14_05-05-08_pentium-m_7.10-8.04.tar.gz Mirror 11689436 6 i386 .gz
swiftdove-2.0.0.14_05-05-08_prescott_7.10-8.04.tar.gz Mirror 11079061 8 i386 .gz

 

[Shadow703793]

Any one of the downloads should work as long as it's x86 or x64. Or are you talking about performance?

Download Ubuntu (8.04) LTS Desktop Edition 64bit AMD and Intel computers here:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

 

[R53843]

I am talking about performance. They are optimised versions for different chips. I do not know into which category the E8200 falls.

Robin

 

[Mondoman]

It doesn't fall into any of those (or it falls into all of them, imperfectly).
Don't mess around with optimized kernels -- they don't usually get you much, if for no other reason than that the apps which you run won't be optimized unless you recompile them yourself.

 

[Shadow703793]

^Agreed.

 

[R53843]

swiftdove is an optimised version of Thunderbird. Are you saying that the correct one for my cpu will not be in effect optimised?

 

[Mondoman]

There is no "correct one" for your CPU in that list. Typically, newer CPUs add extra instructions that may be more efficient than the corresponding "generic x86" ones. Later CPUs, as long as they also include those instructions, can take advantage of versions optimized for earlier CPUs, but there will also be newer extra instructions that the optimization for the older CPU ignores. In any case, unless you've got some kind of special case, it's unlikely that optimized versions will make any noticeable difference, and may introduce issues regarding software updates.

Go ahead and experiment by trying those various versions and see if you notice any difference.

 

[R53843]

thank you for your help. I will consider my next move in the light of your comment. BTW I am very happy with my new MB and CPU. The slight overclocking I have done has made a lot of difference to the machine's speed.

Robin

 

[Shadow703793]

^What's the new motherboard?

 

[R53843]

Gigabyte MB:
GA-P35C-DS3R