News Intel has a new driver for Wi-Fi 7 adapters but they may still not work on AMD systems — Intel BE200/BE202 incompatibility on AMD platforms remains...

[Admin]

Intel released a new driver for its Wi-Fi adapters, including updates for its BE200 and BE202 Wi-Fi 7 adapters. However, due to the compatibility issues with AMD that have been reported since its availability, Intel has not clarified if it could fix the issue with the new update, nor has it acknowledged the problem.

Intel has a new driver for Wi-Fi 7 adapters but they may still not work on AMD systems — Intel BE200/BE202 incompatibility on AMD platforms remains... : Read more

 

[Amdlova]

Intel make these new cards only for 12 gen beyond if the motherboard support it the user need see if the motherboard Have that M.2: CNVio2

 

[saintsimon]

Intel make these new cards only for 12 gen beyond if the motherboard support it the user need see if the motherboard Have that M.2: CNVio2

None of the BE cards are CNVio2.

 

[CmdrShepard]

Fast forward to today, he is still uncertain if Intel intentionally locked away this compatibility or if the AMD AGESA bug prevents these chipsets from working.

I am betting on the latter.

AMD chipsets and BIOS-es always had a reputation of being buggy.

It seems much more likely than Intel Networking Division shooting themselves in the foot by giving up potential custoemers to Qualcomm and Realtek, not to mention the potential fallout if it was discovered to be an intentional sabotage.

 

[jlake3]

I am betting on the latter.

AMD chipsets and BIOS-es always had a reputation of being buggy.

It seems much more likely than Intel Networking Division shooting themselves in the foot by giving up potential custoemers to Qualcomm and Realtek, not to mention the potential fallout if it was discovered to be an intentional sabotage.

Can you or anyone else elaborate on "the AMD AGESA bug"? That's worded in the article like we should all know what it is, and while AMD did have USB dropout issues on older versions for AM4 and I've heard of some teething issues with AM5, I haven't heard any widespread issues where certain devices don't work across any AM4 or AM5 combo (minus things not designed to, like CNVi/CNVio2).

It also sounds like this card isn't working reliably on 11th-gen Intel or earlier, either?

I doubt Intel intentionally locked away support, but it seems like the issue lies in the card itself.

 

[CTHDT]

I have BE200 successfully working on Thinkpad P53 (9gen) and P15 Gen 2 (11 gen).
There is no hardware incompatibility on these systems. PCIe is PCIe. If I could fit one in an A-socket or mPCI I assume I could use it from 3-gen onwards. Like AX210.

 

[Ogotai]

AMD chipsets and BIOS-es always had a reputation of being buggy.

news flash for you.. intel isnt all that bug free either... i still have to use sata drivers from years ago as current ones causes the 2nd sata group on my x99 board to vanish..

you would think being drivers, intel would be able to fix them... as it isnt hardware...

 

[CmdrShepard]

news flash for you.. intel isnt all that bug free either...

I never said Intel was bug free, but in my 35 years of building PCs for myself I never had issues with Intel chipsets. Worst thing I had happen to me was incompatible RAM causing a machine check exception. On the other hand as someone who used Creative cards a lot I was shocked how many issues with properly following PCI bus signaling specification AMD, VIA, SIS, and ALI users had compared to people using Intel chipsets only.

i still have to use sata drivers from years ago as current ones causes the 2nd sata group on my x99 board to vanish..

This sounds like it talks about your issue:
https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/guide-x99-sata-controllers-and-drivers/32191

 

[CelicaGT]

I never said Intel was bug free, but in my 35 years of building PCs for myself I never had issues with Intel chipsets. Worst thing I had happen to me was incompatible RAM causing a machine check exception. On the other hand as someone who used Creative cards a lot I was shocked how many issues with properly following PCI bus signaling specification AMD, VIA, SIS, and ALI users had compared to people using Intel chipsets only.

This sounds like it talks about your issue:
https://winraid.level1techs.com/t/guide-x99-sata-controllers-and-drivers/32191

I've never had an issue with Intel chipset drivers either, nor AMD's for that matter but I'm late to the AMD game this go 'round and missed the USB issues. What I HAVE had issues with these days is Intel WiFi and network drivers. Almost every time. Desktop, laptop, doesn't matter (I had lot's of yummy '99 and up AMD hotness). From 2014 till now I've had issues with many of them. I have my current system on a 2 year old driver as anything newer causes network dropouts. Integrated networking is fine, but if it's Intel based I think I'll just disable it and use an AIB from literally anyone else. I'm considering doing so with my current build, laziness is all that's held me back.

Edit (before posting): the only one I've not had issues with is the one in my refurb Latitude 7490. Intel AC 8265 and it's like a rock. Haven't used the ethernet yet, which is an I219-LM so I can't speak on it. All I can say is the I225 is a steaming pile of **** next to a dumpster fire. Do not recommend.

Disclaimer: Not a networking expert by any stretch.

 

[CmdrShepard]

If I am not mistaken Intel 225 has an easily solvable problem:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...igabit-ethernet-controllers-up-to-2-5gbe.html

That's the first of how many LAN chipsets that Intel screwed up and which needed firmware update to fix. All 2xx series ethernet controllers before them were rock solid and synonym for good wired networking.

AMD and associated chipsets always had some issues with PCI bus (sound cards were affected the most), with USB and SATA (crappy 3rd party controllers), and now with AGESA firmware bugs which can manifest themselves through a range of system issues. That said, the situation is considerably improved compared to times before nForce chipset and Athlon 64 but I still wouldn't use AMD unless Intel starts selling only 500W CPUs.

 

[phxrider]

Is the incompatibility with AMD motherboards still an issue with these?