Intel i5 3470 specs is this good

eonjames

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Is this a good combination this desktop in on sale right now.

Intel i5 3470
Intel board DH67BL
Palit Gtx 750 2gb gpu
4 gb ram 1333
I dont plan n OCing

Im gonna play battlefield,far cry,tomb raider, crysis ,batman arkham.
 
Solution
GTX750Ti 2GB performance benchmarks for reference (see my comment on 750Ti vs 750):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/25.html

1) I usually recommend 1600MHz CAS9 as the minimum but having said that 1333MHz for most games shouldn't make too much difference at all. Also consider that memory testing usually uses a faster CPU as well (ram bandwidth requirement scales directly with CPU processing power).

If it's a pre-built system he'll have to weigh the pros and cons of what systems are available and I'd put 1333 vs 1600 near the bottom of the list in comparison to the GPU or other components.

2) BF4 on Ultra with a GTX750?

Possibly at a low resolution. A GTX750Ti which is faster gets 38FPS at 1600x900. "MasterDell"...
Eon your CPU is fine and still really quick. So is the speed of the memory. The capacity may be an issue though.. Like BF4 for instance will lag pretty bad with that much RAM. (This is a fact) You will need 6GB at the very least. 8GB would be preferable. Your GPU will be able to play BF4 at Medium to High very easily.
 
It will play the games you have listed on medium level settings 30fps+ if that is okay. You do not need a GTX 970 unless you are wanting to max out your games at 1080/1440p resolution.

You want to find a PC with

CPU: i5 (3rd/4th gen)
RAM: 8GB 1600mhz (ideally)
GPU: GTX 750 Ti (medium/high gaming) OR R9 280 / GTX 960 (high/ultra) OR GTX 970 / R9 290x (for max quality high fps).
MOBO: Any really (ASUS, MSI, GIGABYTE)
 


30FPS at Medium? Try 60 and especially on BF4. GTX 750 2GB will get about 34FPS on ultra on BF4. Also, Intel motherboards are great as well as 1333 not having any gaming performance benefit.

EDIT:
 

Resolution? Change to 8gb ram and this is fine for 720p
 
Do you guys actually have experience with any of this hardware? We have Monster saying that he need 1600MHz memory and not 1333 and then Luco saying that it can only play at 720p.


I know I am not being very friendly but this guy need factual information.

 
GTX750Ti 2GB performance benchmarks for reference (see my comment on 750Ti vs 750):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/25.html

1) I usually recommend 1600MHz CAS9 as the minimum but having said that 1333MHz for most games shouldn't make too much difference at all. Also consider that memory testing usually uses a faster CPU as well (ram bandwidth requirement scales directly with CPU processing power).

If it's a pre-built system he'll have to weigh the pros and cons of what systems are available and I'd put 1333 vs 1600 near the bottom of the list in comparison to the GPU or other components.

2) BF4 on Ultra with a GTX750?

Possibly at a low resolution. A GTX750Ti which is faster gets 38FPS at 1600x900. "MasterDell" says 34FPS on Ultra but lists no resolution. When people say "Ultra" I think we should assume 1920x1080 not a low resolution.

3) Good system?
That's the real question. A GTX750Ti is 13% faster (stock vs stock) compared to a GTX750 so let's just use the results in the GTX750Ti 2GB benchmark here (about 20 games) to see how it scales and assume roughly 85% of the performance.

For example in Crysis #1 he'd get about 34FPS at 1600x900. Not only would I probably run at that resolution instead of 1920x1080 for this game but I'd also drop several of the settings to raise the frame rate further.

In some cases I'd suggest tweaking to maintain 60FPS (for 60Hz monitors) at least 90% of the time when using Adaptive VSYNC. You can research how that works if you want. VSYNC is really important if screen tearing is too bad otherwise leaving VSYNC OFF completely and tweaking to say 40FPS average might be better.

Summary:
The PC is just fine for almost any game provided you tweak the resolution and settings to achieve your desired frame rate.

*I can't stress this enough... TWEAKING the game settings is critical for the best experience. If aliasing is annoying run at say 8xMSAA. If not drop to 4xMSAA. If 1600x900 looks similar to 1920x1080 then use the lower resolution (depends a lot on the HUD elements mainly. Crysis 2 looks pretty good at 1600x900 but CIV5 which has small text not so much).

PHYSX probably should be disabled for any game with this card.

Use FRAPS, decide if you want VSYNC ON or OFF then tweak towards your desired FPS goal as mentioned before.

Whether it's a good deal is a different story and obviously a better Graphics Card will make the largest difference.
 
Solution
Per game:

Batman Arkham Asylum:
Probably max settings most of the time at 1080p.

Batman Arkham City:
Will need to TWEAK a bit.
*Most importatly, disable DX11 and PHYSX. Aside from the performance cost it simply isn't working right and causes stuttering for this game.

Batman Arkham Origins:
Not recommended.

Batman Arkham Knight:
We'll see.

BF4:
Probably HIGH at 40FPS on roughly HIGH settings with VSYNC OFF is what I'd aim for.

FC3 or FC4:
About 30FPS at 1600x900 for FC3 so it's fine once tweaked further. For FC3 or 4 I'd probably look to a tweaking guide.

Tomb Raider:
It scales quite well so you should be fine. It gets about 25FPS at 1600x900 for the GTX750 but you can get a pretty nice looking game at a much higher resolution if tweaked.

Crysis 2:
HIGH looks similar to ULTRA. In my opinion you should run at 1600x900 or 1920x1080 and force on Adaptive VSYNC. Then choose a preset that puts you at 60FPS at least 90% of the time.

On my GTX680 + i7-3770K I was jumping well over 100FPS on HIGH but ULTRA looked about the same to me but dropped me below 60FPS.

**A GTX750 gets roughly HALF the performance of my GTX680 and I run every game at 60FPS at max or near-max settings. Thus, you can achieve at least 30FPS at the same settings or higher if you drop a few!

*If you get Crysis 2 install the HD texture pack and DX11 if they aren's installed now.
 
i am only going to play 1366x768 res, so how high could gtx 750 get with this res??. just an acceptable details settings would do. but i could play it on ultra much better.

one more thing is the GTX 750 2gb ddr5 128bit way above GT740 2gb ddr5 128 bit? anyone has an idea of their performance in terms of gameplay?
 


1366x768 = 720p

The gtx 750 is great for that resolution and will push for higher settings on many games. The gt 740 doesn't even compare, it's a much much weaker card
 


I presumed it was a standard GTX 750 so naturally quoted lower FPS. I do know the Ti can play BF4 at high pretty well. I only said medium because it will manage a good 60 fps.

And there is no point going for 1333 RAM when 1600 is pretty much the same price.
 

The desktop he is talking about is a pre built... He can't just swap the RAM out for 1600... Which is why I am saying it does not matter. :ange:
 



thank you so much for the detailed info on my queries. appreciate it
 



yup you re right its a prebuilt system and thats the components included.btw is the stock fan of i5 3470 ok, i dont plan on OCing.
 

Yes that cooler will be just fine. How old is the system? You may want to replace the cooler anyways since it might be making a little more noise than it should be. As for the motherboard, no 4th gen CPUs cannot run on H67 motherboards. The CPU actually is physically not even able to go in the board.
 


its still a brand new unit, their old stock.

 
how should the case on the side panel of chassis go? is it intake or exhaust, my side panel has a duct on it directed toward the HSF and CPU. ive read somewhere not on this site that it should be an intake to push hot air coming from the HSF and go to exhaust at the back. is it ok not to put a fan on the side panel, im planning to put 120 mm fan in front and back only.
 



Noted on this, I've only put 120 fan intake fan in front and exhaust (back)
im gonna test some games later. Thank you.