Intel i5 6400K VS AMD FX 8350 CPU's

[PapaShand]

Hi there,

i have had a dilemma as I bought a 9590 and didn't realise the short supply, not to forget expense in parts, I am looking to buy one of these two but I want to know which is best for me...

I will 80% of the time be Gaming but, I will also use for the odd research and quite often for Homework as I'm still a Student, what should i get?

 

[Corwin65]

Not many would recommend an FX. Go with Intel.

If you are not going to overclock, stay away from the K processors.

 

[Rogue Leader]

There is no 6400k, its just 6400 its not overclockable.

Note gaming benchmarks here where its equal to or faster than the 8350:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/core-i5-6400-cpu-review/7/

And the best part. If you want more performance, you're a BIOS update and CPU purchase away from an i7-7700k which is the best gaming CPU. With the 8350 there is NO upgrade path.

 

[Rogue Leader]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from PapaShand : "Which Intel i5 is best for Gaming, considering price AND performance?"

I have had a lot of complaints on my AMD FX 9590 CPU post and, I am considering going to an i5 but not sure which... I've been looking from the i5 6400 thorugh to the i5 6700K but don't know which is best for price AND performance.

I have a budget of around £150 max. for the CPU but can afford most of them as I can source a like-new one from eBay for around that, so which is best?

The performance of individual i5 CPUs from the same generation is almost directly proportional with clock frequency. Divide the clock frequency by the price and whichever has the highest ratio gives you the best bang-per-buck.

InvalidError is true in what he has put but, you also have to bear in mind the 'longevity of performance', a K chip is overclockable which makes it a little more future-proof and overtime could be considered more cost effective. It's really down to the individual, if you have no plans on overclocking or upgrading on the same platform then the cheaper and slightly lower clocked CPU is likely to be the better option.

 

[atljsf]

the i5, 6400k or 6400T? possibly will give you better performance on games

for the rest is possible that the 8 cores on the 8350 will give you better experience, editing videos and similar load

i am a amd fanboy, so i would get the fx, but i have to be honest so the i5 could be a better option

also, if you plan on upgrade machine later, the fx has no upgrade path other than buy a ryzen r7 or r5 and a mainboard with ram

the i5 has a couple of options still available to upgrade

 

[Rogue Leader]

the i5, 6400k or 6400T? possibly will give you better performance on games

The 6400k does not exist. and you do not want a 6400T that is a low power processor often used in laptops and low power systems.

i5-6400 is what you want.

 

[smorizio]

if you have not going parts shopping yet.look for the newer intel 270 chipset and newer intel cpu. if you have a local micro center they do have combo deals on both. the other cpu if your low on funds is the newer amd cpu that have dropped. both intel and newer amd cpu use ddr4 ram and have the newers usb and pci tech on the mb. both new amd and intel mb you can use the newer m2 pci ssd. both amd and intel and nvidia and amd are dropping new product every 12-18 months now. when the newer cpu drop they may not use the same pin outs as the older mb. when you go parts building try and pick up the newer mb so that you dont have to swap the mb or cpu out for a few years.

 

[atljsf]

not low power, low heat and low noise, for mini itx cases, very small ones is ideal the i5 6400t but is a not powerful cpu, just 2.2 ghz and turbo at 2.8ghz

it is preferable the i5 6400 but the good thing is that uses lga 1151 socket

 

[Rogue Leader]

not low power, low heat and low noise, for mini itx cases, very small ones is ideal the i5 6400t but is a not powerful cpu, just 2.2 ghz and turbo at 2.8ghz

it is preferable the i5 6400 but the good thing is that uses lga 1151 socket

No, it is low power. It has a 35w tdp compared to the 65w tdp of the 6400. On top of that it has clearly lower clocks, its not for gaming and shouldn't even be part of what this OP is considering.

 

[chemmajorp53]

Just search FX 9590 on this forum and you'll see what a nightmare that CPU has been. Listen to Rogue Leader, return the 9590 if you can and get an i5 6400. It's fast, stable, and easy to set up.

 

[chemmajorp53]

@atljsf the 6400T is not suitable for a gaming computer or any normal desktop for that matter. That CPU is meant for tiny systems like a home theater PC where it's not going to be getting proper airflow and has to fit in a very tight space. I can't really think of a good use case for it unless you need a lot of HDD storage, because any other situation you'd want to use it in, a NUC would be a better purchase.

 

[atljsf]

yes, that is what i wrote, mini itx with heat and airflow problems

it is not a low tdp cpu like one of the hq cpus for laptops, but is around that

anyway, the best option thiing in the future is the intel, the fx, only if it is found really cheap and will be used as hard as possible, some overclking and then replace it with a mainboard, cpu and ram combo

 

[PapaShand]

Now, i5 6600K or i5 7500 (i wanna OC the 6600K but with Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) Any thoughts?

 

[atljsf]

that sounds better but it depends on your budget

 

[Rogue Leader]

Now, i5 6600K or i5 7500 (i wanna OC the 6600K but with Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) Any thoughts?

To OC you need a more expensive Z170 or Z270 motherboard keep that in mind.

The 212 EVO is a bit long in the tooth there are better air coolers out there. The CRYORIG H7 is far better, as is the Deepcool GAMMAX, or Noctua NH-U12s or U14s.

Of course a faster CPU is always better, either one would be good, just depends on your budget.

 

[raisonjohn]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from PapaShand : "Intel i5 7500 VS Intel i5 6600K"

Which processor of the two should I be buying, because I'll mainly game but also use for Homework and/or Research also. I have seen the 6600K outperforming in every category on a few Videos and Websites but, is it the better option as I may or may not bother with OC'ing...

i5 6600k for sure.

i5 6600k for sure.

Thanks but could you give a reason, I really like the 6600K...

The i5-7500 is $33 cheaper than the i5-6600K. Comparing both CPUs when not OC'd, the i5-7500 is only 100MHz "slower" than the i5-6600K. The i5-7500 is 3.40GHz (Base) to 3.80GHz (Boost), while the i5-6600K is 3.50GHz (Base) to 3.90GHz (Boost). The great deciding factor between these two CPU's (almost identical speed) is their power consumption. The i5-7500 only has a 65W TDP while the i5-6600K has 91W!

If you are not planning to overclock at all, it is best to get the Intel i5-7500 and pair that with a B250 motherboard for more savings compared to an overclockable i5-6600K (which you won't overclock) with a more expensive Z170 mb.

If you are also willing to spend less than the price of that i5-6600K but a faster non-OC'd speed, you can also opt for the Intel i5-7600. It has the same 3.50GHz (Base) speed as the i5-6600K but at a higher 4.10GHz (Boost), non-OC'd (at the same low 65W TDP).

The i5-7600 is $217, the i5-7500 is $192, while the i5-6600K is $225.

All i5-6xxx/7xxx CPUs are the same except for clock speed (and -k CPUs being overclockable). So to see which one is better all you have to do is look at clock speed.

Between those two, performance should be nearly identical, unless you overclock the 6600k. You'll need a Z170/Z270 motherboard to do that. You'll also need to buy a cooler, as -k CPUs don't come with one.

The i5-7500 is $33 cheaper than the i5-6600K. Comparing both CPUs when not OC'd, the i5-7500 is only 100MHz "slower" than the i5-6600K. The i5-7500 is 3.40GHz (Base) to 3.80GHz (Boost), while the i5-6600K is 3.50GHz (Base) to 3.90GHz (Boost). The great deciding factor between these two CPU's (almost identical speed) is their power consumption. The i5-7500 only has a 65W TDP while the i5-6600K has 91W!

If you are not planning to overclock at all, it is best to get the Intel i5-7500 and pair that with a B250 motherboard for more savings compared to an overclockable i5-6600K (which you won't overclock) with a more expensive Z170 mb.

If you are also willing to spend less than the price of that i5-6600K but a faster non-OC'd speed, you can also opt for the Intel i5-7600. It has the same 3.50GHz (Base) speed as the i5-6600K but at a higher 4.10GHz (Boost), non-OC'd (at the same low 65W TDP).

The i5-7600 is $217, the i5-7500 is $192, while the i5-6600K is $225.

I was thinking this however, I'm in the UK and find the 6600K to be the cheapest, I'm getting a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo with it if I go down that route and wouldn't mind going for a 4.2 Ghz+ OC. What is the price difference in Mobo's and also, not only could the Cooler handle actually 4.2+ but, which would be better for me personally after this? (Remember i5 6600K is cheapest for me)

How much can you get the i5-6600K there in the UK?

Sample i5-6600K build:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£216.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.40 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£100.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £356.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I would suggest the Cryorig H7 (better cooling performance than the CM 212 EVO). But if you really prefer the EVO, then it would be:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£216.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£100.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £340.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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If you opt for the non-overclockable CPU (i5-7500 or i5-7600), then:

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£187.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£91.80 @ Alza)
Total: £279.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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or

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£91.80 @ Alza)
Total: £291.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-08 23:59 GMT+0000

 

[bignastyid]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from PapaShand : "Intel i5 6400 VS Intel i5 7500 VS Intel i5 6600K"

What should I be buying? I would prefer a cheaper option but should I leave the 6400 and go for one of the other two as I'm on a budget but could stretch as far as the 6600K if worth it, thankyou!

The price of the 7500 and 6600K don't seem too far off here in the US. If you have motherboard and cooler to do overclocking go for the 6600K, otherwise the 7500 would still be pretty good choice.

The price of the 7500 and 6600K don't seem too far off here in the US. If you have motherboard and cooler to do overclocking go for the 6600K, otherwise the 7500 would still be pretty good choice.

How good is your 9590 for Gaming, I was told by around 20 people when I bought it yesterday to resell it as it's too expensive and, too risky...

The price of the 7500 and 6600K don't seem too far off here in the US. If you have motherboard and cooler to do overclocking go for the 6600K, otherwise the 7500 would still be pretty good choice.

How good is your 9590 for Gaming, I was told by around 20 people when I bought it yesterday to resell it as it's too expensive and, too risky...

It's hot, I use a Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate AiO liquid cooler to keep it cool, that's the 360x120mm radiator version. It does well enough for me gaming at 2560x1440. I won it in a contest so I built my system around it. How much did you pay for yours? And do you already have the motherboard and everything too? Because if you can't return these items for some reason it wouldn't be very good to sell them probably at a loss to yourself.

The price of the 7500 and 6600K don't seem too far off here in the US. If you have motherboard and cooler to do overclocking go for the 6600K, otherwise the 7500 would still be pretty good choice.

How good is your 9590 for Gaming, I was told by around 20 people when I bought it yesterday to resell it as it's too expensive and, too risky...

It's hot, I use a Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate AiO liquid cooler to keep it cool, that's the 360x120mm radiator version. It does well enough for me gaming at 2560x1440. I won it in a contest so I built my system around it. How much did you pay for yours? And do you already have the motherboard and everything too? Because if you can't return these items for some reason it wouldn't be very good to sell them probably at a loss to yourself.

I only paid £105 for it, but have no ohter parts so I'm gonna sell and go for the i5 7500 I think.

 

[RCFProd]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from PapaShand : "What OC could I expect with this 6600K setup?"

CPU

Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

Motherboard

Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

What OC could I expect with this equipment,CPU Cooler can be changed if necessary and also, any suggestions for DDR4 RAM or a PSU? Thanks!

Change the CPU Cooler to the Cryorig H7, best price/performance cooling on the market. On paper you should be able to OC to 4.4-4.6Ghz but It's still all about sillicon lottery.

Power supply depends on which graphics card you're getting.

DDR4-2666+ RAM recommended, 8GB is good enough, 16GB is great.

 

[Ironsounds]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from PapaShand : "Intel i5 7600 VS Intel i5 6600K Comparison"

Hi there,

I've been suggested both of these processors by many different people, I can get Mobo, Cooler and CPU for the 7600 for around £270 however the 6600K will cost around £320... I wouldn't mind Overclocking but I'm a bit of a noob at OC and, wouldn't know if it'd be better to save the money and have a more futuristc-proof CPU also or whether OC'ing is really that good and that I should go down that path? (I may not even touch OC'ing as I don't understand much ATM)

Option 1: Intel i5 6600K @ £180 with ASUS Gaming Z170 @ £120 with Hydrorig 7 @ £40

Opton 2: Intel i5 7600 @ £200 with ASUS Prime @ £65 with Stock Cooler but will probably get Cooler Master Hyper Evo 212 @ £20

What should I do?

Interesting. 7600 in your country costs significantly more than 6600k? Insane...

How much cheaper is the i5 7500??? That would probably be my choice along with keeping the stock cooler. If you really want an after market cooler, I suggest the CRYORIG M9i instead of the CM Evo 212.

Hello... The i5 7600 is a fine choice to run stock @only 65 watts.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7600+%40+3.50GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-6600K+%40+3.50GHz

 

[InvalidError]

So many new threads for essentially the same question and no sign of OP after his duplicate posts have been merged here. Is OP following his own question posts?

 

[Rogue Leader]

So many new threads for essentially the same question and no sign of OP after his duplicate posts have been merged here. Is OP following his own question posts?

He is, I have been working with him in another thread, but that thread is solved (not to use the 9590).

PapaShand Please stop making new threads, we can figure this out for you here. If you keep making new threads your answers may never get you to a consistent conclusion.

 

[PapaShand]

So many new threads for essentially the same question and no sign of OP after his duplicate posts have been merged here. Is OP following his own question posts?

He is, I have been working with him in another thread, but that thread is solved (not to use the 9590).

PapaShand Please stop making new threads, we can figure this out for you here. If you keep making new threads your answers may never get you to a consistent conclusion.

Sorry, I am staying on this post now, can anyone help me? I need help finishing off this build... https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YspfGf

I would prefer a PSU pretty cheap and EVGA branded but if the Gold is really that good in comparison to other options then just give me a suggestion... Thanks!

 

[Rogue Leader]

Here you go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£61.67 @ BT Shop)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£102.60 @ Aria PC)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£73.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£82.50 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Total: £658.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 23:54 GMT+0000

The non-G2 EVGA units are not good quality.

However if you're really on a budget this is not a bad way to go:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£61.67 @ BT Shop)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£102.60 @ Aria PC)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£73.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.99 @ Novatech)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£82.50 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£49.98 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit
Total: £615.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 23:56 GMT+0000

The Corsair CX450M is one of the best in terms of lower end PSUs

 

[valeman2012]

Just get the newest released CPU Intel i5 7400 is good or Intel i5 7600 <- your future gaming is set.

 

[PapaShand]

Rogue Leader, I went with the EVGA SuperNova G2 650 Watts at the moment because, first of all it is quality but secondly it is actually cheaper then the 550 Watts version, should I be geting this as it's cheaper for more or will it cause problems due to so much spare wattage? Thanks.