Intel I7 3770 vs. 8350 Vishera for gaming

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I'm trying to find out which is a better processor for gaming. I have two monitors so most times I'd have quite a few things open at once. Which one has a better performance?
 
The AMD 8350 Vishera scales its speed and performance based of cpu demand. That gives it a slower speed when handling low demand tasks, and handling one task at a time. The i7 handles those tasks much better. However, when tested at high demand settings, as well as multi-tasking, the 3850 does surpass the i7. Again, the reason for that is in the 3870 architecture they set it up to slow down it's speed to reduce power consumption, and throttles the speed according to the demand being put on the processor. If you are playing games with the settings very high, with AA and 16x Antistropic filtering, or multi-tasking often, then the 3850 is the cpu for you. If you do not, then you want the i7.

A good show of this data is this test and review:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1285/pg1/amd-fx-8150-black-edition-8-core-processor-vs-core-i7-2600k-review-introduction.html

Not only does it show the multi-tasking capabilities of the 8 Core FX series processors, but it shows it using older versions of the 8 Core FX series cpu.
 
Yes i7 3770k is better choice it only has 4 cores but it has pci-e 3.0 that 8350 don,t have & all new video card ,s like the hd7970 have pci-e 3.0 for faster gaming here,s the specs on 3770k good luck

With faster, intelligent, multi-core technology that applies processing power where it's needed most, Intel Core i7 processors deliver an incredible breakthrough in PC performance. They are the best desktop processors on the planet. You'll multitask applications faster and unleash incredible digital media creation. And you'll experience maximum performance for everything you do.



Main Specifications

•Processor

•Type / Form Factor: Intel Core i7 3770K

•Number of Cores: Quad-Core

•Number of Threads: 8 threads

•Cache: 8 MB

•Cache Memory Details: L3 - 8 MB

•64-bit Computing: Yes

•Clock Speed: 3.5 GHz

•Max Turbo Speed: 3.9 GHz

•Compatible Processor Socket: LGA1155 Socket

•Manufacturing Process: 22 nm

•Thermal Design Power: 77 W

•Architecture Features: Hyper-Threading Technology, integrated memory controller, Intel Virtualization Technology, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0, Intel Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX), Intel AES New Instructions (AES-NI)

•Cache Memory Installed Size: 8 MB

Integrated Graphics

•Type: Intel HD Graphics 4000

•Base Frequency: 850 MHz

•Max Dynamic Frequency: 1150 MHz

•Features:

Intel Clear Video HD Technology , InTRU 3D Technology, Intel Wireless Display (WiDi), Intel Insider, Intel Quick Sync Video 2.0
 
Simple answer: 8350 vs i7 = i7 wins.

However i7 is a waste of money if you plan on gaming.

So this thread should be another "8350 vs 3570k!?!!" for the 10 millionth time.

You should be looking at the 3570 or 8350 for gaming, not the i7.
 
i7 has hyper threading witch has no value in gaming as games arent coded to use hyper-threading and can actually give less performance when turned on.

pci-express 3.0 is a gimmick. theres no real world difference with that and 2.0 at the moment and for somethime to come, honestly i dunno why they made 3.0 2.0 was working fine.

3770 cost:330$+tax and the 8350=199. 3570k= 220$.

gaming. goes in this order. 3770k. than 3570k than 8350. but theres still close in performance depending on the game, and having 8cores for 200$ is an amazing deal.

of course if you want pure gaming performance and dont care about multi-tasking like a madman than 3570k it is. 3770k shouldnt even be considered for gaming as its properties aka. 4ht cores is more for software developpement, adobe photoshop. video editing etc, software that can use ht quality.

very simple to understand if you do not buy a dictionnary 😀

 
dear JD1993 i was in a similar situation as you are now. trying to decide which hardware was better for my needs.

i will show you what changed my mind and made me decide for good what is best for me, you might as well find it helpful.

watch this video with the fun and amazing Logan, you'll find many interesting facts about i5 i7 and fx8350 !!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

once you watch that video you'll want to hear more i'm sure so here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc

and a simple build guide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIS6zyBkoKY

and a fair and unbiased Crysis 3 benchmark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVGwj1_Qno

:)

 


1. Youtube is a horrible source.
2. That guy has NO idea of what he is talking about. Intel has no L2 cache???? LOL

3. His numbers make NO sense at all. How can an HD7870 get so few FPS in metro 2033 at 1440... He is a fool. He does not even test so many games, most of them are indie or older.

He also fails to mention half the important things about the FX and its characteristics.

Look at the variable on the system used.
https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-3570k-vs-3770k-vs-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks

He did not even use the same gaming runs(different scenes in game), so on one he may as well have looked at something non-intense, like a wall, and on the Intel run he could have looked at an explosion in game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbMYV8Djt7k

That explains it pretty well.

NOTE : They bench Metro 2033 as well at 19:10. Why don't they match up? BECAUSE his number are dumb!
 




i hate calling anyone a liar a fanboy or a mislead noob. so how are you ? doin fine ? XD

1. youtube is not a horrible source, i believe it is the best source especially when backed up by a website that supports and explains every step of the test.

2. he didn't say intel has no L2 cache. he just says it has too little L2 cache compared to the FX-8350

3. his numbers make a lot of sense actually, metro 2033 is a very graphics intensive game and 7870 is not powerful enough to run it maxed out especially at 1440p !!!

and you actually make me smile with your desperate attempts to undermine Logan, when you say that "Logan" doesn't know what he's talking about, give me a brake dude.

Logan made it clear. it's all about gaming.

check linustechtips videos in reply to Logan's videos. results are very close and linus is known to be "Paid" by intel who would mislead and sell his viewers and subscribers for a punch of dollars.

that's the truth about it










dear JD1993 don't mind me nor mind Novuake.

if you like the i7-3770k and you have the "money" get that, it will run cooler and perform better "overall" but if you are on a budget get the FX-8350 it is the better bargain.





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The ignorance is STAGGERING. So you don't even pay attention to the fact that pretty much EVERY other review contradicts him and that his method is horrible with a thousand variables.
Believe what you want.
The 8350 is not a bad option, its just not BETTER in any way.
 


i beg to differ on "every other review contradicts him"

but i'm trying to get to a common ground here, i hate disputes.

in "some" ways it's better, and as you said "The 8350 is not a bad option".

JD1993 watch the videos and all other related videos from other reviewers and make your own decision.

i got the FX-8350 and it's a beast in every aspect.
 
Unless if you are gaming on two 120Hz monitors, FX 8350 hands down. As we get to the GPU bound situations where there are lots of pixels being pushed, the i7 and FX 8350 are close to DEAD even.

Also, the FX 8350 has 8 ACTUAL cores. It would make it more handy for you especially now that Gaming will be taking advantage of more then 4 cores and you will have Multiple resources running in the background.
 


That is VERY debatable. Below is a dual core AMD "module", some resources are shared, as you can see, although this is still closer to a 8-core than the I7 with its hyperthreading, wheather its a true quad core is up for serious debate.

fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer,L-A-310510-22.jpg
 



I totally agree with you. future proofing ? AMD all the way. FX-8350 will let the OS stretch it's legs comfortably with the 8 cores at its disposal.
and in the next few years we'll be seeing even more games optimized for amd products as amd is making its way to consoles.
 
Consoles do not even run on x86 or x64...

Assumptions of the ignorant are a dangerous thing.
If you have no understanding of architectures and/or programming, then you start thinking AMD will perform better thanks to its console presence. That assumption is outright wrong.

But hey, keep fooling yourself.
 


cool down mate there's no need for the outrage.

i quote:
"The PS3 used the oddball Cell processor, and that lead to countless problems for third-party developers making multi-platform games. It has more horsepower than the Xbox 360, but the difficult architecture meant developers were often left with a choppy frame rate or egregious texture pop-in. That’s not the case this time around, and we mostly have AMD to thank. The development environments for PC, Xbox One, and PS4 are by no means identical, but ports won’t need nearly as much retooling as they did last generation."

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/157489-amd-has-console-gaming-in-its-pocket-but-can-it-squeeze-out-nvidia-on-the-pc

see the logic that drives my conclusions now ? if not, think again.
 


people are stupid all people say that. see the paradox ? if not, think again.
 


YOU IGNORAMUS!!! Next GEN consoles are fully x86 and have 8 cores. Go back under the bridge troll. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not assuming anything, I'm stating actual fact.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4452488/amd-sparks-x86-transition-for-next-gen-game-consoles
 


Are you a programmer? Do you understand coding?

While that is interesting and a good read. You do realize that not a SINGLE game developer writes for just one system except when literally endorse by AMD or NVidia, like with PhysX titles.

To benefit from a SPECIFIC CPU and its characteristic more effectively you need to manually CODE a game line by line. However there are hundred of acceleration tools out there known as automated compilers, these are and will ALWAYS be optimized for SINGLE CORE performance FIRST and foremost. Since the AMD lacks in single core performance so badly, do you really think anyone will bother manually coding a game they produce with millions of millions of lines of code?


Most of that article is conjecture ANYWAY until the "next-gen" games are out and have proven whichever is correct.

"Winning the console battle" is an empty victory as Nvidia BASICALLY withdrew from the "fight" because of a non-existent profit margin.
However for AMD their annual turn over will be higher, which will help keep them afloat in their troubled financial state.
 


I never said people are stupid, I said people CAN be stupid, hell we all have retarded thoughts at times.
Hahaha its amazing that you are in the minority, so who are you calling stupid, the majority?
 


so the FX-8350 issue is resolved i take it, thank god for people's stupidity. and the x86 consoles issue too. who's the idiot now LOL.
 


What the hell are you saying?
 


i'm saying you are the "smthn" here LOL. it's just that as i stated initially i don't like calling people idiots even when they are plainly, simply and wildly pure idiots. LOL
 


Lol, okay. Believe what you want. You're pretty much wrong on the x86 argument and you're trying to change the subject with your delusional rant. The FX 8350 is a good investment in right now's gaming market. End of discussion. And yes, I do understand coding. I am a beginner, but I know that x86 optimization and development for 8 cores will transfer over to PCs because I happen to know 5 Devs that would tell you the same.