I personally dont see anything to get excited about with either Intel or AMD theses days !!
I'll grant you that. AMD really wow'd us with the ascent of Zen and their 3D VCache. Going forward, I think the story for AMD is going to be more like what we saw with Zen 5, which is some incremental improvements, but those "wow" moments for them are pretty much done.
Even wide memory interfaces, like Strix Halo (i.e. Ryzen AI Max), don't seem to have a lot of potential for improving low-to-medium threaded compute workloads.
Intel has falied time and time again with terrible socket life power hungry , brute forcing charts and little to no gains each gen ..
Arrow Lake is a little better on power, but the downside is that (refresh aside) it's effectively a single-generation socket.
For Intel, what I'm looking forward to is APX and the return of AVX-512. I know E-cores aren't very popular, but I credit them with making a bold move of bringing them to the desktop, and then for Skymont improving them to the point where I'm increasingly interested in E-only CPUs.
What they got wrong was thinking their Thread Director (hardware engine) could be the solution to the scheduling complexities introduced by hybrid CPUs. I wish they'd have worked with Microsoft and the Linux kernel folks to introduce some threading API improvements, so that apps could take a more active role in telling the OS which threads are latency-sensitive.
Intel should have gone X3d after the 5800x3d was released ..
That sort of thing takes a while, so it's not reasonable to expect Intel to respond immediately, or even in the next generation (but probably by Arrow Lake, they could've). People have even found evidence on Zen 2 of AMD experimenting with it, way back then. And it took them until Zen 5 to finally crack the heat issues, so that the X3D dies didn't experience such a tradeoff on clock speeds.
AMD also annoys me because i see the writing on the wall of the Nvidia curse own the market ( CPU's ) and screw over consumers ..
AMD is going to bring their own ARM-based CPUs, early next year. Soundwave. It should be interesting. Not as much as if it were based on Zen 6, but still almost as interesting as what Nvidia and Mediatek are doing.
If we lose intel to ( granted of their own doing ) just being crushed out of the market completely mark my word AMD will be the next Nvidia of the CPU market ..
Intel won't go away. Maybe their fabs and maybe even x86, but you can be sure that Intel will be designing CPUs for the foreseeable future.
I was disappointed that the 9950x3d wasnt running dual cache stacking ccds
Same. I think they should've at least offered a 9955X3D which had dual 3D cache. Their argument was simply that the value for money wasn't there, but I think some people still would've paid the premium for the few % more performance of dual 3D cache.
all these rumours of UDNA crushing Nvidia i dont see it ..
Don't listen to that nonsense. It's powered by nothing but fanboy wishes. At best, UDNA will be a decent follow-on to RDNA4, which I think was a pleasant surprise. I just bought one, yesterday.
No, my default assumption is that Nvidia will continue to hold the GPU crown. It's clear that RTX 5000 is being held back by TSMC N4. Their next generation will be on a new node and should therefore have legs to reach the next tier.
rumours of the 5080 super getting 20gb Vram the 5080 SHOULD of had 20gb from the start !!
20? How would that work? I'd put it at 24 GB or at least 21 GB.
AMD not as bad but still anything 8gb in 2025 is disgusting so the 9060xt 8gb is a bad money grabbing product !!
It wouldn't be bad if it were cheap enough, but I agree that it's too expensive to have only 8 GB.
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