Intel, Micron First to Triple Level Cell 25nm NAND

[Marcus Yam]

Triple level cell... what does it mean?

Intel, Micron First to Triple Level Cell 25nm NAND : Read more

 

[El_Capitan]

I want some TLC!

 

[Tamz_msc]

I hope it lowers the prices of SSDs.

 

[mavroxur]

Very impressive. Hopefully this will lead to larger, cheaper SSD's, as well as more integrated storage in mobile devices.

 

[irh_1974]

Expect SSDs to increase in capacity in line with HDDs sooner rather than later.
I want a 2Tb SSD!

 

[cscott_it]

It means that 600GB consumer SSDs are just around the corner. Take a look at some of Intel's leaked roadmaps.

 

[pocketdrummer]

Wake me up when 500+Gb SSDs are affordable...

 

[Guest]

SLC = ultra fast and simple
MLC with 2 bits/cell = slow, with lots of disadvantages and complicated controllers.
MLC with 3 bits/cell = ???

Super large SSD drives, sure, but will they be slower than today's MLC drives ?

 

[willgart]

Relax guys... the TLC technology reduce the write speed and the endurance.
I just read an article:
in 2009 Micron says: TLC is 2 times slower and 10 times less endurance. (I don't know if its compared to SLC or MLC)

 

[meat81]

what is the expected lifetime for these drives.

 

[mrecio]

Wow they seem to be pushing SSD tech much harder and faster then they ever did with standard hard drives. This is a good thing but probably does add to the cost some of all SSD's after all got to pay the RnD department! but yea get me a 500GB SSD for 100-150 and then ill accept it as mainstream tech.

 

[mikem_90]

Just the design of putting more eggs in one basket by putting 3 bits per cell means each cell will get written to theoretically more. In practice you never write one bit. Not sure if SSD optimization tech does anything for eliminating unnecessary write operations to cells if the cell contains the same value.

I'll keep my wallet closed till we see what this actually does. Intel has in the past been pretty good with SSDs, we'll see how they do this round once hardware is in a tester's hands.

 

[lamorpa]

At this point, physical size of the chip is irrelevant to anything it is put in. Smaller size means lower cost in the long run.

 

[HavoCnMe]

Like the Prices Right says..."TLC NAND come on down!" and bring the prices down with it.

 

[borisof007]

Queue the "TLC" jokes

 

[borisof007]

Er "cue"

 

[eklipz330]

Triple level cell... what does it mean?

IT'S SO VIVID AND BRIGHT!!

OHHHHHHHHHH

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[willgart]

not TLC... but SSD...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1728590/sandisk-ssd-size-postage-stamp
incredible!

 

[Travis Beane]

While slower then MLC, faster than a spinning platter (hopefully).
I wonder, when will the next gen of 1.8" and 2.5" of Intel SSD's come out, how much will they cost, and will they be available in SLC, MLC and TLC?
Hopefully in the near future, your OS is on a 256GB SLC, while you have a 2TB TLC for storage, and tape drives for archiving (cheaper than a HDD per GB).
^_^

 

[lamorpa]

[citation]“With January’s introduction of the industry’s smallest die size at 25nm, quickly followed by the move to 3-bit-per-cell on 25nm, we continue to gain momentum and offer customers a compelling set of leadership products,”[/citation]
said Tom Rampone, in an attempt to win the award for putting the most words into a sentence, while conveying the least possible information...

 

[bak0n]

Why haven't they came out with a 3.5" form factor drive in masse? It would seen that it would be the most cost effective for price /performance, unless its just cheaper to mass produce the 2.5's?

 

[sublifer]

[citation][nom]willgart[/nom]Relax guys... the TLC technology reduce the write speed and the endurance.I just read an article:in 2009 Micron says: TLC is 2 times slower and 10 times less endurance. (I don't know if its compared to SLC or MLC)[/citation]
I expected as much. This means its good for flash drives/cards and internal storage for smart phones and similar devices. Probably not targeted for SSDs at all though it may be developed into something competitive for that market.

 

[bak0n]

[citation][nom]Ulrik Lunddahl[/nom]SLC = ultra fast and simpleMLC with 2 bits/cell = slow, with lots of disadvantages and complicated controllers.MLC with 3 bits/cell = ???Super large SSD drives, sure, but will they be slower than today's MLC drives ?[/citation]
Profit!!

 

[cushgod]

ROFL @ lamopra comment

 

[kinggraves]

Actually, depending on size and how cheap they are, they could be great for archiving and remove the one thing that's keeping mag drives in the game.
If given the choice between a mag drive and an SSD of the same size and nearly the same price, I would opt for the SSD and know that it will be more durable.