Intel: Notebooks, Tablets Eradicated in a Decade

[kingius]

Definitely, be careful of where you put your data. The closer to you that it is, the easier it is for you to secure. Relying on private companies - who can change their license agreements AFTER you have signed it - to act ethically is to fundamentally misunderstand how little accountability big corporations really have. The cloud really is about charging us to access our own stuff and worse; monetising our stuff for their own gain.

In ten years time, the landscape won't be too dissimilar than it is today. There will be products that are light and small that you can carry around with you that can do computing and there will be products designed to be stationary that can do bigger and better computing. They will look similar, but different, be able to crunch vast numbers in even shorter amounts of time, their interfaces will be different, but the same tasks will be done with them: gaming, spreadsheets, databases, web, email, printing and so on.

 

[kingius]

"Intel walks all over AMD processors and by AMD having a faster graphics on there processors doesn't mean nothing as any real gamer is going to have a graphic card Period."

Intel has been cheating the benchmarks, and they deserve to be brought to task for that. I hope they are taken to court and ruined for it. The Vikings used to say: Laugh for laugh, gift and gift, and lie for lie. So I hope intel are brought down by lies from within if the courts do not do it. They make good processors but they are more expensive and in real terms, for me and for you, they are poor value for money compared to AMD processors.

 

[pbrigido]

[citation][nom]kingius[/nom]"They make good processors but they are more expensive and in real terms, for me and for you, they are poor value for money compared to AMD processors.[/citation]


What you say is very true, but there are some people who are less concerned about value, and more concerned with performance. Each company has a legitimate place in the market, both catering to different types of consumers' interests.

 

[Katzie]

[citation][nom]kingius[/nom]"Intel walks all over AMD processors and by AMD having a faster graphics on there processors doesn't mean nothing as any real gamer is going to have a graphic card Period."Intel has been cheating the benchmarks, and they deserve to be brought to task for that. I hope they are taken to court and ruined for it. The Vikings used to say: Laugh for laugh, gift and gift, and lie for lie. So I hope intel are brought down by lies from within if the courts do not do it. They make good processors but they are more expensive and in real terms, for me and for you, they are poor value for money compared to AMD processors.[/citation]

i3 2100 dominates any AMD cpu in that pricerange, and if you live near a microcenter, they sell for 99 bucks. pretty inexpensive to me

i remember when e6750s were around 250, so I would say Intel is not more expensive

 

[BlueFireAngel]

When Mr. Skukla stated that the notebook, netbook, and tablet would be erradicated I don't think he meant that there would be no mobile/portable computer. I think he implied that the lines of distinction between them would vanish. I think his vision of the future is of a world where those three varieties of computer no longer exist but have become merged into something new. If tablets become more functional and powerful, it's easy to see where the need for a notebook or a netbook would be less necessary. However, certain portions of the the notebook or netbook may remain in a new form factor that is somewhat different from these three and combines the best qualities of each.

 

[wiyosaya]

Yeah, and we will have flying cars that autonomously navigate, too.

 

[DjEaZy]

... Intel Will Be Eradicated in a Decade ...
1) No powerful GPU with DX11, OpenCL support...
2) Apple is looking to shift laptop CPU's to ARM...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Project-Denver-ARM-MacBook-Cortex-A15-Tri-Gate,12711.html
3) M$ Windows 8 will be ARM compatible...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-8-ARM-TI-SoC-x86,11919.html
4) AMD will work with ARM on OpaenCL...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-arm-fusion-developer-conference-opencl-gpu-accellerated-apps,12949.html
5) nVidia haz TEGRA...[/citation]
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/tegra-arm-soc-zune-optimus,11342.html

[citation][nom]pbrigido[/nom]lol thanks for that! I needed a good joke to get me going this morning.[/citation]

 

[Katzie]

A phone form factor with a display on the unit with projection type capabilities along with an external display type surface (for some reason I am thinking it will be clear and look techhy like the crazy looking displays on minority report) that can be rolled up and put into a small case when not needed. that can also act like a full sized keyboard as well.

Also to go out on a limb, we will also be able to plug in a micro USB into our ear to access our brains and think what we want to input into spreadsheets and documents, and also control the world.

 

[pbrigido]

[citation][nom]DjEaZy[/nom]... Intel Will Be Eradicated in a Decade ...1) No powerful GPU with DX11, OpenCL support...2) Apple is looking to shift laptop CPU's to ARM...http://www.tomshardware.com/news/P [...] 12711.html3) M$ Windows 8 will be ARM compatible...http://www.tomshardware.com/news/W [...] 11919.html4) AMD will work with ARM on OpaenCL...http://www.tomshardware.com/news/a [...] 12949.html5) nVidia haz TEGRA...[/citation]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/t [...] 11342.html[/citation]

If Intel would be doing the same thing they are now 10 years down the road, I think they would be in danger of going out of business. It stands to reason that could be the fate of virtually all companies if they fail to change over a 10 year time period.


However, whether you like or hate Intel, they are pretty innovative people. They will adapt their products to suit the needs of the market as it changes. And since they own the x86 architecture copyrights, that ensures their survival for a long time. As long as businesses use servers and other high end infrastructure, that by itself will ensure
Intel will be around for quite some time. I would guess that their stock will go from $22-23 currently to around the $75 mark in 10 years time.

 

[K2N hater]

Cloud is awful - exploits privacy over expensive capped internet links.
It's certain that the main reason of the existance of the Cloud (lack of processing power and storage) is to vanish as the processing power of small devices keep growing with vigor.

Tablets and notebooks will NOT die. Actually "traditional" tower-like computer sales are to decrease in favour of small and quite portable notebooks, netbooks, tablets, all-in-one boxes and smartphones regardless of the architecture - some will find ARM to be enough for their needs but others will stay with x86-64.

 

[DjEaZy]

[citation][nom]pbrigido[/nom]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/t [...] 11342.html[/citation]If Intel would be doing the same thing they are now 10 years down the road, I think they would be in danger of going out of business. It stands to reason that could be the fate of virtually all companies if they fail to change over a 10 year time period.However, whether you like or hate Intel, they are pretty innovative people. They will adapt their products to suit the needs of the market as it changes. And since they own the x86 architecture copyrights, that ensures their survival for a long time. As long as businesses use servers and other high end infrastructure, that by itself will ensure Intel will be around for quite some time. I would guess that their stock will go from $22-23 currently to around the $75 mark in 10 years time.[/citation]
... maybe... but... for the servers... in time maybe there will not be the need for x86...
1) you can put Linux on almost everything...
2) M$ is jumping on a ARM train...
3) ARM will have a 2Ghz 4 core CPU soon... an @ that pace... ...

 

[pbrigido]

[citation][nom]DjEaZy[/nom][/citation]... maybe... but... for the servers... in time maybe there will not be the need for x86...1) you can put Linux on almost everything...2) M$ is jumping on a ARM train... 3) ARM will have a 2Ghz 4 core CPU soon... an @ that pace... ...[/citation]

Product diversification does not mean the elimination of another product, it is simply an addition. Besides a 2Ghz 4 core ARM uses RISC, which pales in comparison to even a slow Netbook CPU.

 

[Guest]

We will have Skynet. Done.

 

[swapnil mantri]

the spelling is wrong it should be RAMA SHUKLA

 

[belardo]

In 10 years, we'll be using the iProbe for our day to day lives. Once inserted into the body cavity, you are able to connect, share and do everything without any noticeable device in your hands, pockets or clothes.


You can talk, take and share photos (use your own eyes as a camera, ZOOM lens is optional) go on the internet, including porn and enjoy yourself.

The iProbe... 2020.

 

[Khimera2000]

for computing... I imagine something that looks like a small scroll, that has a screen that can roll out and go rigged, it would be touch screen and possibly have a way to be viewed in semi transparent mode for augmented reality... and I predict that the internet will still be for porn.

 

[Guest]

I saw a new concept at a recent computer show. It was a flatscreen imbedded in the stomach of a person. Virtual cloud computing through tele-tubbies. Be real and realize the fad. People will grow tired of it and retreat back to what is affordable and reasonable. Look at what Verizon has already done with free internet, yep pay as you go now. Nothing is free and people will move away from pay products unless they are absolutely necessary. BTW did anyone notice that the grassy hills on tele-tubbies looked very similar to the grassy hill background in M$ windows?? Just wondering.

 

[dalauder]

[citation][nom]ReggieRay[/nom]Cloud is their way of making everyone pay a monthly service fee to use your computer. The FEDS (sieg heil) love it too, they can easily see what you have stored away.[/citation]If they charge too much for the cloud, I'll just use my home server for my family and a few friends for free.

This article doesn't approach how to have heavy hardware in the home for gaming. Even though it's possible that graphics won't need to improve past where they'll be at 8 years from now, I hardly see most people having the newest tech in 10 years. Heck, my Dad will still be using Ivy Bridge because he doesn't upgrade computers--he just runs them into the ground.

Is there anyone who can't name multiple people still using Pentium 4 HTs?--at the very least in schools and government? Yes, cool new tech is coming. But if it's not available in 2014, it won't be widely implemented in 2020. It'll be 2016 by the time something phone sized really replaces all the average user's home computing needs (considering most smart phones don't even get 2006 C2D/7800GT performance nowadays). And I assume by 2016, the average home user will want something with Nehalem i7 performance at an absolute minimum.

My point is, laptops and tablets may be phased out for smart phones in 10 years. But a desktop in a corner connecting wirelessly to your TV, monitors, printers, keyboards, mice, cameras, and other devices will still be with us through about 2025--when the 2020 tech becomes widespread.

 

[eddieroolz]

Thanks Intel, but no thanks. Seriously.

 

[vedder316]

Battery life will hinder major advancements for a while. Look @ the new 4G dual processor phones. Four hour battery lives? Also the whole "your new tech is obsolete the day after you bought" it is getting tiresome not to mention expensive. Things are moving too fast for the average consumer to support.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]therealcold187[/nom]LOL Intel walks all over AMD processors and by AMD having a faster graphics on there processors doesn't mean nothing as any real gamer is going to have a graphic card Period. No cpu with grapics on it is going to replace graphic cards anytime soon and when it does get there Intel will be able to step up there game. AMD and NVIDIA hasn't been around as long as Intel and doesn't have the R&D of Intel. Intel will alway be here as AMD and NVIDIA one day won't be here. People used to say how great 3dfx was and they started 1994 and was bought by NVIDIA because they were bankrupt in 2002. AMD is here just so Intel won't be a monopoly. If you go back threw the years Intel has bailed out AMD a couple of times. So saying Intel will be gone one day is the most Stupid and Idoit thing I've heard in my life. I usually don't post but a comment like that had to come from a teenager that doesn't know his facts. Only kids and people that don't want to spend alot of money buy AMD these days. Pro use INTEL and expecially when it comes to the server world I look over 200 servers and the only servers that ever break on me are the AMD pieces of shits. All the servers are made by IBM so they are not thrown together black box servers. AMD has taken up to much of my time and the company to were we will never by another AMD server period.[/citation]

you forget that there is a real market for amd apu's, the cheap desktop/notebook market that need battery life, want to play games, and needs to be cheap. intel can compete here, and have failed repeatedly to make a gpu that is relevant.

ill give it to you that intel has better cpus, but thats a relative term, personally i go amd, because i prefer the easier to understand way they name things, and i have real upgrade options, unlike intel where when a new cpu is out, its usually accompanied by a new socket.

i also appreciate amd, and their focus on open standards, weather that is by choice or because they dont have the ability to go proprietary, but that more gpu than cpu.

 

[dalauder]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]personally i go amd, because i prefer the easier to understand way they name things, and i have real upgrade options...[/citation]I think easier naming schemes are relative. It only depends on what you're acquainted with. I consider both Intel and AMD's naming schemes mediocre, but better than NVidia's (with the GTX 460 SE B.S.). Okay, the 6800 series being worse than the 5800 series of Radeons was pretty off. AMD's Phenom II 840's are pretty screwed up naming schemes, just like Intel's i7-6XXM's and i7-25XXM's now though. Neither is a Phenom or an i7 (L3 cache & 8 threads, respectively).

The AMD Llano naming schemes are pretty bad though. And they don't have an easily accessible Wikipedia article that lists the CPUs and graphics naming schemes so I can't find out which is which--and I'm in the top 99.5% percentile on knowing computer parts.

But your original point, AMD is targetting mainstream and Intel is targeting Enthusiast. For mainstream with power usage, batter life, price, and performing all needed tasks, AMD is winning. For enthusiasts, which is about half the market if you count businesses, Intel is winning. I agree with the upgrade path argument, but I don't think it could justify an AMD purchase by an enthusiast with a job anytime since Sandy Bridge first came out. Bulldozer may change that, but I'm done holding my breath on it.

 

[kronos_cornelius]

[citation][nom]therealcold187[/nom]LOL Intel walks all over AMD processors and by AMD having a faster graphics on there processors doesn't mean nothing as any real gamer is going to have a graphic card Period. [/citation]

Having the stream processors right beside the cores will improve performance for any application once AMD feels ready to target the enthusiast/gamer market.

[citation]No cpu with grapics on it is going to replace graphic cards anytime soon and when it does get there Intel will be able to step up there game. AMD and NVIDIA hasn't been around as long as Intel and doesn't have the R&D of Intel. [/citation]

Intel has a similar problem to Microsoft here. They have one hand tided behind their back. Where Nvidia and AMD can jump on the hottest power-efficient architecture (ARM) Intel will always feel the need to make thing backward compatible, ant that is Intel's Achilles heel.

[citation]Intel will alway be here as AMD and NVIDIA one day won't be here. People used to say how great 3dfx was and they started 1994 and was bought by NVIDIA because they were bankrupt in 2002. AMD is here just so Intel won't be a monopoly. If you go back threw the years Intel has bailed out AMD a couple of times. So saying Intel will be gone one day is the most Stupid and Idoit thing I've heard in my life. [/citation]

Intel has the money to stay in the game, but I would insist on rethinking x86 as it is dated. Branch prediction ? that is so last decade. MMX... same thing. They do have the lead in the manufacturing process though.
[citation]
I usually don't post but a comment like that had to come from a teenager that doesn't know his facts. Only kids and people that don't want to spend alot of money buy AMD these days. Pro use INTEL and expecially when it comes to the server world I look over 200 servers and the only servers that ever break on me are the AMD pieces of shits. [/citation]

I was not aware this was a reply.. next time hit the reply button instead of using new post. But yeah teenagers don't know nothing.

[citation]
All the servers are made by IBM so they are not thrown together black box servers. AMD has taken up to much of my time and the company to were we will never by another AMD server period.[/citation]

Ever since Athlon I have known that AMD is the company with the brains[chip desing], and Intel is the one with the Brawn[Hyperthreading, super small transistors] (relative to each other of course, Intel has great engineers ). Intel is also the beneficiary of brand power. It is the same reason you buy Nike or Rebook because the other brands look cheap. We can call this market inertia.

 

[K-zon]

Only reason why I think Windows 8 will include ARM procs within in design is for the idea of OS change with software regulating for the idea of devices being used with ARM procs on the idea of an OS working with them runing on a different proc. Otherwise all you would need in a hardware shift or software install for the difference.

Almost like saying that external hards will only work with certain computers. As long as the port fits, the actual hard drive i think has no issue. Others you could buy about anything alomst that works for the interest. Right? On that idea anyways.

But in terms of the interest for the fact of Notebooks and Tablets, is probably size the most at times against function, cause function based would be practical issue of interest for any say concern or just interest. Even though thats probably of most things of course taken into part of the idea of computing probably less placed then more liked, right as well?

But still hard saying cause the thought alone, right.., is probably the differnce of something decent and something that just works, maybe, perhaps. Otherwise as everything else, have to wait for the shelf pull-offs for the fact of another, and the release of another to say there isnt anything else, and etc. And finally get to the point probably of no notebooks and Tablets. But to say PC in terms of Towers are going to be practical for use in all things, is probably as placed to say that i can go anywhere and compute with my PC or yours. The rest just seems of interest which might be in lack of for even the thought or idea, let alone to say its enough of something around to have. Right?

 

[Guest]

It's all good what intel says but in ten years I'll have lots of gray hair and possibly a smaller appetite for immersing myself into their next gadget; Plus I may have forgotten how to naturally socialize and enjoy actual communication thanks to the abuse of the communication gadgets.

Much more than a better and more addictive gadget I think I'll need a job to secure my income and my retirement savings. If I can have that I may buy their next useless gadget. Otherwise why give a damn how intel is trying to suck out the last dollar from a society of addicted cyber-losers...